GUILTY MO - Breeann Rodriguez, 3, Senath, 6 August 2011 - #6

[MsFacetious]

Many people who MAKE threats don't actually follow through on them.
If you want to kill someone, you don't generally want to give them a warning first so they can stop you.

I said maybe he was able to find employment because there are tax credits for businesses willing to employ disabled workers. It is possible that he could be "disabled" in some way, but this is unknown. That was posted because it is rather surprising that another company would hire SM after making a bomb threat at his previous place of employment.

I know little about this subject except corporations can receive Work Opportunity Credit when they hire the disabled. The program provides eligible employers with a tax credit of up to 40% of the first $6,000 of first-year wages of a new employee if the employee is has a specific disability. An employee with a disability qualifies provided that the appropriate government agencies have certified the employee to be disabled.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/10/smbusiness/disabled_workers.fsb/index.htm
http://www.missouribusiness.net/irs/sections/section4/disabled.htm
http://www.ehow.com/info_8776749_tax-breaks-hiring-mentally-handicapped.html

This also applies to hiring felons... which I don't believe applies to Shawn Morgan.
As far as we know he has never been convicted of or pleaded guilty to any felony.

However, it can also be a big tax incentive to hire a felon.

http://reentrypolicy.org/Report/PartII/ChapterII-D/PolicyStatement21/Recommendation21-A

http://reentrypolicy.org/government_affairs/second_chance_act

 

[BeanE]

Tenaris had bomb threats ,,,on 1 day,,,,, months ago.

 

[BeanE]

Also: Mods or more experienced folks, I assume that looking into Breeann's father's employment record to see if it matches SM's would be sleuthing the victim, yes? So, therefore, against the rules of Websleuth's? thank you.

Always best to PM a mod and ask before posting info about a victim's family, as well as anyone who's not a perp, named POI, named suspect, etc.

IMO

 

[BeanE]

I might be the only one who thinks this, but I really don't see much (if any) significance to the terrorist/bomb threat part of hs background. I would find it more significant if he acted violently at a daycare center or a petting zoo or something like that, but not so much against a single child in very different circumstances.

The reason I, personally, find it very significant is because it tells me how he deals with people, particularly with anger toward others, frustration. He does so in a very unusual way, that violates boundaries, is extreme and controlling, immature, ineffective, attempts to intimidate, etc.

I also found it interesting that he felt the need to say twice that he meant what he said. It seems he feels that people don't take him seriously, brush him off. I find it interesting that someone who perhaps feels ineffective, inadequate, chooses an ineffective and inadequate way to get what he wants - a resolution of problems he perceives with co-workers.

I think as time goes on, we'll find more correlations we can draw between the bomb threat incidents and his murder of Breeann.

Just my personal opinion/thoughts.

 

[AnnaMarie]

I just joined Websleuths as I have followed Breeann's case and somehow found this cite. I prayed so hard for this child. I am thankful her body was found and hope the memorial service and funeral will bring closure for the Rodriguez family--that God will lessen their sorrow and ease their pain. I cannot imagine the magnitude of their grief. I do believe as BeanE wrote, that the bomb threat is very telling with regard to the perpetrator's mental state. It is not normal to call in a bomb threat. We do not do this in our society. The act reminds me of an acquaintance I knew at church who was bipolar. If he got off his medications, he would pitch a fit in the parking lot of the church if someone got his "perceived" parking space.

 

[mck16]

I just joined Websleuths as I have followed Breeann's case and somehow found this cite. I prayed so hard for this child. I am thankful her body was found and hope the memorial service and funeral will bring closure for the Rodriguez family--that God will lessen their sorrow and ease their pain. I cannot imagine the magnitude of their grief. I do believe as BeanE wrote, that the bomb threat is very telling with regard to the perpetrator's mental state. It is not normal to call in a bomb threat. We do not do this in our society. The act reminds me of an acquaintance I knew at church who was bipolar. If he got off his medications, he would pitch a fit in the parking lot of the church if someone got his "perceived" parking space.

I think people would be surprised at the frequency of bomb threats at places of business. My husband was an attorney and bomb threats were always being called in to the office building where he worked. This was in the 80's. I just don't think they make the news anymore because of the frequency. I agree that it is nuts, but hey we have a lot of nuts walking around out there. I think when the autopsy results are received we will be seeing him charged with molestation or rape. I just don't think he has told the authorites that yet. jmo

 

[AnnaMarie]

The murder is so horrible that I just cannot let my mind go there yet, mck16, but you are probably correct. Poor innocent baby.

 

[mck16]

The murder is so horrible that I just cannot let my mind go there yet, mck16, but you are probably correct. Poor innocent baby.

I know how you feel. It just makes me sick and every time it happens I just can't believe it. I am sure you heard about the child that a man grabbed off the street. Neighbors saw it and one man jumped in his truck and took off after him. He was able to catch up and get the little girl out. He was on HLN Vinnie Politan show. He is a true hero. jmo

 

[BeanE]

Still no motive for killing Breean Rodrequez (AUDIO)
AUGUST 19, 2011

Includes very brief audio file to listen to w/interview of Chief Karnes


Senath Police Chief Omar Karnes is still wondering why a neighbor would brutally kill a 3-year-old girl.

http://www.missourinet.com/2011/08/19/still-no-motive-for-killing-breean-rodrequez-audio/

 

[krimekat]

I just joined Websleuths as I have followed Breeann's case and somehow found this cite. I prayed so hard for this child. I am thankful her body was found and hope the memorial service and funeral will bring closure for the Rodriguez family--that God will lessen their sorrow and ease their pain. I cannot imagine the magnitude of their grief. I do believe as BeanE wrote, that the bomb threat is very telling with regard to the perpetrator's mental state. It is not normal to call in a bomb threat. We do not do this in our society. The act reminds me of an acquaintance I knew at church who was bipolar. If he got off his medications, he would pitch a fit in the parking lot of the church if someone got his "perceived" parking space.

:Welcome1:

WS Rocks . . . praying for Breeann's family & the community!

 

[Dee10]

:welcome:AnnaMarie

 

[Pensfan]

Oh how I wish SM was given a psyc. evaluation in 2002 & curious why it wasn't ordered? I would have thought something that extreme would be automatic? Pensfan what are your thoughts? Another question; the seriousness of the bomb threat are you surprised that we haven't heard of other LE related / even not called in events in the 9 years since? No spousal abuse...nothing as yet. I find that surprising! Just wondering your thoughts.

The county probably doesn't pay for anyone to undergo an expensive psych assessment except for violent offenders and indigent parents of children taken by Child Protective Service. Even if this county paid for an assessment for all individuals with violent tendencies, sadly, SM might be found to have a disorder that is very difficult to "treat".

 

[greenpalm]

krimekat



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[greenpalm]

Still no motive for killing Breean Rodrequez (AUDIO)
AUGUST 19, 2011

Includes very brief audio file to listen to w/interview of Chief Karnes


Senath Police Chief Omar Karnes is still wondering why a neighbor would brutally kill a 3-year-old girl.

http://www.missourinet.com/2011/08/19/still-no-motive-for-killing-breean-rodrequez-audio/

That is so weird. Interesting that he "hasn't talked to him and doesn't care to." that sounds like how my dad would be. I'd be in there grilling the guy. This also implies the preliminary autopsy results do not indicate assault or rape, but, how much would be left after 10 days in a plastic bag in 90+ degree heat. Sorry graphic, but I'm not sure they could even determine cause of death at that point. Would his <yuck> semen, even hold up under those conditions? I hate asking that, but I doubt There'd be much evidence left. Would there?

 

[flipflop]

That is so weird. Interesting that he "hasn't talked to him and doesn't care to." that sounds like how my dad would be. I'd be in there grilling the guy. This also implies the preliminary autopsy results do not indicate assault or rape, but, how much would be left after 10 days in a plastic bag in 90+ degree heat. Sorry graphic, but I'm not sure they could even determine cause of death at that point. Would his <yuck> semen, even hold up under those conditions? I hate asking that, but I doubt There'd be much evidence left. Would there?

Just curious, what makes you think that it does not indicate rape/assault???? I feel that the plastic bag may be more helpful as opposed to not being in a plastic bag. JMO I feel LE is not talking to him as he probably stated he wanted a lawyer, therefore, talking to him without one is useless at this time.

Also with LE stating that he "doesnt care to talk to him", makes me believe he did the most horrible things to her. JMO

 

[cluciano63]

Just curious, what makes you think that it does not indicate rape/assault???? I feel that the plastic bag may be more helpful as opposed to not being in a plastic bag. JMO I feel LE is not talking to him as he probably stated he wanted a lawyer, therefore, talking to him without one is useless at this time.

Also with LE stating that he "doesnt care to talk to him", makes me believe he did the most horrible things to her. JMO

But if there was evidence of a sexual assault, I would certainly consider that motive...no matter what the suspect says. And LE says they don't know a motive?

 

[flipflop]

But if there was evidence of a sexual assault, I would certainly consider that motive...no matter what the suspect says. And LE says they don't know a motive?

LE will say whatever they want and when they want. They always know waaaaaaaaaaay more than what is released to the public. I still feel they are waiting until Monday to release anything further (after funeral to show respect to fam and community)

 

[cluciano63]

LE will say whatever they want and when they want. They always know waaaaaaaaaaay more than what is released to the public. I still feel they are waiting until Monday to release anything further (after funeral to show respect to fam and community)

True, but then they could simply say nothing for now...instead they are saying they don't know the motive.

 

[Dee10]

Sokoloff says if the case against Morgan goes to trial, he will consider asking for the death penalty.

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/new...ey-re-at-peace

I wondering if the the evidence is overwhelming enough that SM will likely plead guilty or take the risk of the DP by going to trial. Not sure I buy, the no motive statement, maybe waiting for after the funeral, maybe he doesn't want to give heads up on anything at this point to a potential defense attorney, or it could just be no known motive which IMO would be strange & rare for someone to kill a 3 yr. just because???

 

[liz b.]

He stated that he looked out and saw her on the pool ladder. If he then went into a blind rage, why didn't he kill her there and then ? Why didn't he,for example, drown her ? If he was acting out of an anger which took over his mind ? Or,why didn't he kill her,say, by manual strangulation ? ( I am sorry to write such graphic things ).

But, no. His statement is that he brought her into his home and suffocated her. Why did he do that ? Did he need privacy for some other reason ? In any case, it tells me that he thought about what he was going to do. It was not that he flew into an uncontrollable rage.MOO He took the time to pause and think.MOO