Found Deceased MO - Clauddinnea 'Dee Dee' Blancharde, 48, Springfield, 10 June 2015 - #2 *Arrests*

[kimlynn]

She run away before but her mother found her and brought her back.
So I am guessing in her head there was no escape unless mother was dead.

I'm not sure we're ever going to get any answers because we have to take the word of Gypsy. The only others we have heard from are people that knew Gypsy when she was pretending and a cousin and aunt that had lost contact with the family.
The problem with the theory of Gypsy thinking there was no hope is she knew that society had helped her in the past. Surely she didn't think there was no way out except the death of her mother.

 

[jjenny]

I'm not sure we're ever going to get any answers because we have to take the word of Gypsy. The only others we have heard from are people that knew Gypsy when she was pretending and a cousin and aunt that had lost contact with the family.
The problem with the theory of Gypsy thinking there was no hope is she knew that society had helped her in the past. Surely she didn't think there was no way out except the death of her mother.

How did society help her? She wasn't actually disabled. She had to pretend to be disabled and mentally retarded. But nobody figured that out. At some point her teeth fell out (possibly because of medication she was made to take) and her hair was shaved (because mother claimed she had leukemia). Yet nobody figured that out either. Society just left her with her mother.

 

[kimlynn]

How did society help her? She wasn't actually disabled. She had to pretend to be disabled and mentally retarded. But nobody figured that out. At some point her teeth fell out (possibly because of medication she was made to take) and her hair was shaved (because mother claimed she had leukemia). Yet nobody figured that out either. Society just left her with her mother.

No one figured out that Gypsy and mother were pulling scams for profit but people and agencies did reach out to try and help her with what they thought Gypsy needed. That had to have an impact on Gypsy and the way she viewed society as a whole. Basically that people are good and want to help others.
I would think she would have had no trouble or problem explaining the role her mother played in the past and her current situation of 'being held captive'
Can you imagine if Gypsy had called authorities and walked for them? That would have been some proof right there.

 

[jjenny]

No one figured out that Gypsy and mother were pulling scams for profit but people and agencies did reach out to try and help her with what they thought Gypsy needed. That had to have an impact on Gypsy and the way she viewed society as a whole. Basically that people are good and want to help others.
I would think she would have had no trouble or problem explaining the role her mother played in the past and her current situation of 'being held captive'
Can you imagine if Gypsy had called authorities and walked for them? That would have been some proof right there.

There have been a number of actually kidnapped people, who were literally held captive, who didn't explain anything to anyone, despite having opportunities. I think it might be too much to ask of someone who was abused for most of her life.

 

[GigTu]

A family of six boys Known as the Wolfpack (Featured on "48 Hours" on Fri and in a documentary) were kept in a NYC apt for years. They are doing well - are delightfull in fact. Learned coping skills by watching over 10,000 movies during their fathers control. They are amazing - a joy to watch. Anyone see the 48 hours segment? You should watch it as it restores your faith in humanity. Shows not everyone snaps, although I am amazed the turned out the way they did. It will make you feel good! Conflicted about this case and wondering if GB is diabolical at this point or it's just very sad. Can't help but think she could've figured out another way to gain freedom.
Murder is never an option.

I think the main difference is the boys had a family unit to rely on each other with, Gypsy was isolated.

 

[MotherOcean]

I wonder if Gypsy would have ended up killing her mother herself, if she had not been able to find someone else to do it for her. I think Gypsy had a hole in her heart that could only be filled by (a healthy) love. That's why she wanted a boyfriend so badly. Enough to murder. Her model and ideal of love was twisted. That's WHY the hole is there. She must have been in such an intense state of conflict. She must have loved her mother. Yet pain and confusion must have had the effect of great turmoil in her heart. I wonder how seething her hate became. I think she must have hated her mother very much, at least by the time of the murder. Love and hate. Add loneliness, being unable to control her own destiny, and isolated from family. No father in her life. A woman but made to look and act like a young child. The windows of her home purposely tinted!!!! This situation was a ticking time-bomb. Something had to change. It couldn't go on as it was, Gypsy had to have gotten to the point where the conflict in her was going to produce something. She wasn't brave enough, or perhaps she didn't really hate enough, to kill her mother herself. Why didn't she just do it herself? That's what I want to know.

 

[kimlynn]

There have been a number of actually kidnapped people, who were literally held captive, who didn't explain anything to anyone, despite having opportunities. I think it might be too much to ask of someone who was abused for most of her life.

We know that Gypsy was made to stay in a wheelchair while in public and her head was shaved. Yes that was abusive and very unfair. These things were done in order to scam the public.
What we don't know is what happened behind closed doors.
I'm aware that many victims of abuse don't speak even when given a chance,but it's stretch to equate Gypsy with one so abused that she lived in fear.
We really just don't know at this point.
I'm sorry if that sounds cold but this girl set her mother up to be murdered. Without knowing more or her mental state....I can't give her much of a pass. IMO

 

[GigTu]

http://m.ky3.com/search-of-home-in-...ly-blancharde-murder-weapon/21050392_33658916

According to the search warrant documents, officers collected some papers noted as "correspondence between subjects." Those documents may shed light on how Gypsy and Godejohn met, how long they have considered themselves to be boyfriend and girlfriend, and whether they plotted to kill Dee Dee before Godjohn arrived in Springfield by bus.

There was also a large sealed manila envelope with a return address of the Blanchardes’ home north of Springfield, where Dee Dee Blancharde was stabbed to death in her bed. The document says the envelope "allegedly contains a knife."

That information jibes with what Godejohn told detectives, according to the probable cause statement used as the basis of the murder charges against him and Gypsy. Detectives said Godejohn said he killed Dee Dee because Gypsy, his girlfriend, wanted him to do so. He told detectives that he then mailed the knife to his home so he wouldn’t be caught with it.

The search in Wisconsin also turned up three wigs in a plastic bag. One wig likely is the wig that cab drivers noticed Gypsy wearing in Springfield before she and Godejohn took a Greyhound bus to Wisconsin on Friday morning.

Investigators interviewed Godejohn's mother, who said the pair returned from Missouri on a bus early Saturday morning and she drove them to the house from the bus station.

 

[DexterMorgan]

http://m.ky3.com/search-of-home-in-...ly-blancharde-murder-weapon/21050392_33658916

He did say he shipped the murder weapon back to his home via USPS.

I think he paid a dollar extra for the tracking confirmation as well.

Lol. These kids need help big time.

 

[minusfour]

Gypsy's teeth wouldn't have literally fallen out. Younger photos show that she had quite a large overjet- "bucked teeth"- which means that the teeth would have been at very high risk of traumatic injury, (in the case of any type of trauma), and also, because her lips would have had a hard time closing over the upper teeth, the normal protection of the salvia layer would have been compromised. (The teeth would have been dry) Of course medications can and do cause dental problems, and no doubt played a role in whatever lead to Gypsy having her upper anterior teeth extracted. Gypsy needed orthodontic treatment, which may have been too expensive, but she sure got a lot of treatment that she didn't need! Not many people that age have lost most of their upper anterior teeth. Cruel.

 

[pepelepolecat]

A family of six boys Known as the Wolfpack (Featured on "48 Hours" on Fri and in a documentary) were kept in a NYC apt for years. They are doing well - are delightfull in fact. Learned coping skills by watching over 10,000 movies during their fathers control. They are amazing - a joy to watch. Anyone see the 48 hours segment? You should watch it as it restores your faith in humanity. Shows not everyone snaps, although I am amazed the turned out the way they did. It will make you feel good! Conflicted about this case and wondering if GB is diabolical at this point or it's just very sad. Can't help but think she could've figured out another way to gain freedom.
Murder is never an option.

Actually, MOST people do not snap. Many, many survivors are extremely resilient and grow up to be perfectly functional members of society. The "cycle of abuse" myth that has persisted in spite of proof that it's bunk has done an awful lot of damage to abuse survivors, imo. centrefortherapy.ca/sites/default/files/2010%20Sept%20-%20The%20cycle%20of%20abuse%20myth_0.pdf

That said, the fact still remains that both boys and girls *can suffer permanent deficits as a result of abuse.

 

[Teche]

I believe Medicaid would have covered dental care. Maybe it wasn't a priority.

Gypsy's teeth wouldn't have literally fallen out. Younger photos show that she had quite a large overjet- "bucked teeth"- which means that the teeth would have been at very high risk of traumatic injury, (in the case of any type of trauma), and also, because her lips would have had a hard time closing over the upper teeth, the normal protection of the salvia layer would have been compromised. (The teeth would have been dry) Of course medications can and do cause dental problems, and no doubt played a role in whatever lead to Gypsy having her upper anterior teeth extracted. Gypsy needed orthodontic treatment, which may have been too expensive, but she sure got a lot of treatment that she didn't need! Not many people that age have lost most of their upper anterior teeth. Cruel.

 

[Eileen730]

I'm not sure we're ever going to get any answers because we have to take the word of Gypsy. The only others we have heard from are people that knew Gypsy when she was pretending and a cousin and aunt that had lost contact with the family.
The problem with the theory of Gypsy thinking there was no hope is she knew that society had helped her in the past. Surely she didn't think there was no way out except the death of her mother.

Her pictures paint a thousand d words.

 

[simlyme]

Just to make it clear about the homeschool debate and whether or not Gypsy was HSed or not. Regulations for homeschooling are just about identical to public school, A PERSON CAN QUIT SCHOOL AT 16, so all that homeschool info is just false. She just didn't attend school, Gypsy was NOT even truant according to law, DD most likely just signed her out at 16 and said she would still teach her at home, YEAH, teach her at home
The news should have done a better job on their research and not reported on what is rumor.This is what pi$$es me off.
My daughter is HSed and 16 but we are still registered as a school and will continue to be until she graduates with a high school diploma, she is also tested EVERY year and will continue to be tested EVERY year. The last thing I want to do is cheat my daughter out of a solid education and lack of documentation.We are not in Missouri but like I said any student can be taken out of school at 16, I believe my State is trying to make it 18, which is fine with me, unless they graduate before that.
Right now as we speak, my daughter is taking extra Algebra to keep on "target" for this coming up school year, at our expense.
When she graduates we want to feel and know that she got the best possible education. At this point she is way ahead of public school students in her current grade. This will be my last post on HSing, "we can't make the horse drink"

https://www.hslda.org/laws/analysis/Missouri.pdf

 

[Amster]

HS works great for some....public school works great for some. What's the point? Maybe there is a place on WS where one can advocate for one or the other?

 

[simlyme]

HS works great for some....public school works great for some. What's the point? Maybe there is a place on WS where one can advocate for one or the other?

My point and opinion is that Gypsy wasn't HSed , she wasn't any kind of schooled, so why is it every time a "child" which she wasn't anymore that is home and does something so atrocious is automatically put in the HS category ? We could hold public school responsible for her lack of education if that's part of her problem, did they ever check to make sure and evaluate her since she had so many ailments? And was involved with so many doctors and "proffesionals" ?? That's my point. You don't need to get snippy about it, it was a point made from day one and I wish to address it, is that ok?
Maybe if public school had gotten involved with her early on she wouldn't have ended up doing was she did, it could have easily been detected , especially if she had the chance to be evaluated one on one , with school personnel.
Just a thought.

 

[QueenBea13]

I know when my son was a sophomore, he had to have an emergency tonsillectomy, he was out of school for 2 weeks after surgery, not to mention all the days he'd missed because of his tonsils; the school assigned someone, a teacher, that brought him all his class work & books to the house so he wouldn't fall any more behind than he was already. He was able to complete all his assignments & turn them into the teacher when she brought his next round of assignments. Is it possible that the school did the same for Gypsy? Her "illnesses" would have prevented her from attending class. And it would've been very easy to pull the "we don't have extra money for Internet", so she wouldn't have been able to go the HS route. Also who's to say DD wasn't doing her assignments for Gypsy?
I know several parents/kids who went the HS route, for me, not a good option, there is a reason I'm NOT a teacher!! Lol. But the kids are still the same kids, they can participate in any extra curricular activities they wish with kids who live in their neighborhood. And I've known some kids in public schools that I think would've been better off going to school at the alternative education center for juvenile delinquents. Like Armstr said HS works for some, public school works for others & private school works for some, to each their own I say!
To address Gypsy's education, I would be willing to bet ya a $1 she's a heck of a lot smarter than anyone, including DD, is or has ever given her credit for!! Maybe not book smart or even street smarts but she has learned how to be one helluva manipulator, I'll have to wait & see how a judge & jury reacts to her to see if she has in fact mastered manipulation! I keep going back to that movie with Richard Gere & Edward Norris, he stutters & is such a fragile boy, well until the end when he shows his true colors!!

 

[jjenny]

Gypsy was trained to be a manipulator by her own mother. Gypsy had to pretend to be unable to walk, sick, mentally retarded in order to get gifts and money out of people. If she became good at it, her mother only has herself to blame.

 

[jbelle]

I just find it funny how so many are speculating that Gypsy was any sort of mastermind. If Deedee murdered her do you think she'd have left a breadcrumb trail miles long like these two kids did?
Doubt it.

I just find it terribly discouraging to read over and over "why didn't she just leave", I just hoped we had moved farther in understanding abuse victims than that.

And being forced in a chair almost her whole life isn't just a little abusive, it's heinous. I have a child, I can't imagine forcing him to sit and not play his sports or have any friends. This kid was isolated and
abused in the worst way, she couldn't even go for a damn walk around the block. No growing up and becoming a woman, no prom or dances, no dates/boyfriends, no experimenting with makeup/clothes with friends at the mall, no sleepovers, no one to be close to, no walks, no sports or dance, no pretty hair, no family other than Mama. Jesus, all there was in her life was Deedee. It's like some reverse sex Norman Bates crap and people are shocked she snapped?

And I think we will learn a lot more than just what Gypsy says, I am sure that law enforcement will be able to find a load of evidence on their computers and interviewing others around them.

Anything I mentioned in this post is just the cursory knowledge that we have thus far, I have NO doubt that what we will find out in the future is worse than any of this. This girl was not some manipulative mastermind, at least not a good one, look what she had to "manipulate". From that kids comment about considering raping Deedee, I doubt Gypsy had much convincing to do.

 

[QueenBea13]

I just find it funny how so many are speculating that Gypsy was any sort of mastermind. If Deedee murdered her do you think she'd have left a breadcrumb trail miles long like these two kids did?
Doubt it.

I just find it terribly discouraging to read over and over "why didn't she just leave", I just hoped we had moved farther in understanding abuse victims than that.

And being forced in a chair almost her whole life isn't just a little abusive, it's heinous. I have a child, I can't imagine forcing him to sit and not play his sports or have any friends. This kid was isolated and
abused in the worst way, she couldn't even go for a damn walk around the block. No growing up and becoming a woman, no prom or dances, no dates/boyfriends, no experimenting with makeup/clothes with friends at the mall, no sleepovers, no one to be close to, no walks, no sports or dance, no pretty hair, no family other than Mama. Jesus, all there was in her life was Deedee. It's like some reverse sex Norman Bates crap and people are shocked she snapped?

And I think we will learn a lot more than just what Gypsy says, I am sure that law enforcement will be able to find a load of evidence on their computers and interviewing others around them.

Anything I mentioned in this post is just the cursory knowledge that we have thus far, I have NO doubt that what we will find out in the future is worse than any of this. This girl was not some manipulative mastermind, at least not a good one, look what she had to "manipulate". From that kids comment about considering raping Deedee, I doubt Gypsy had much convincing to do.

I agree with you to a point, she might not be the master manipulator, but her trail of breadcrumbs as you called it, tells me she has some sort of conscious, at least I hope that's what it is.