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lucky2 said:
I really don't know if i am supposed to post here or not, but River Rat, you actually really have me curious - how did you know she was RhNegative?
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River Rat was theorizing in general about who would have access to mercury. Pretty interesting. Has J's medical records ever been looked at?
 
Thank You, SuziQ...I definitely do not want my wild guess make Lucky2 wonder in the wrong direction about me (who I am and where did I come from all of a sudden!) or for me to have to debate vaccines here at WBS! I was truly hoping that J was not Rh- but now knowing otherwise, of course I am willing to share what I know so that Lucky2 can hopefully gain a better understanding of what went wrong IF this is even a factor!

RR
 
RiverRat said:
After all these years, it takes a lot for a case to knock me for a loop, this one has all the makings and then some to pull that off. As someone that has had a taste of The Mercury herself at the hands of the government via the Rhogam vaccine, I have to ask Lucky2 just so I can move past that one...is She RhNegative?

RR
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Thanks river rat- I really would have never even thought of looking into something like that as a possibility for why she could have become the way she is. By the way, the shot was not given until her third child because that's when it was invented- just in time so my sister was not a blue baby. You can pm me if you would like or tell it here?? do you think that the shots (she had the shots 2 times 3-4 years apart) could have sent her down a "crazy" pathway???
 
lucky2 said:
Thanks river rat- I really would have never even thought of looking into something like that as a possibility for why she could have become the way she is. By the way, the shot was not given until her third child because that's when it was invented- just in time so my sister was not a blue baby. You can pm me if you would like or tell it here?? do you think that the shots (she had the shots 2 times 3-4 years apart) could have sent her down a "crazy" pathway???
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I think it MIGHT be one piece of a very complex puzzle, however... the last thing I would want to do is help give her any kind of excuse as there really is none for what has been allegedly done so I have complex feelings about even bringing this up now but my heart aches for you and it feels like you could process your emotions on this even better than you already have if you could only come up with something that would make sense as far as WHY someone's behavior could be so extreme. Feel free to contact me if you want to chat further about this slight possibility and please know you you will remain in my thoughts & prayers.

RR
 
RiverRat said:
I think it MIGHT be one piece of a very complex puzzle, however... the last thing I would want to do is help give her any kind of excuse as there really is none for what has been allegedly done so I have complex feelings about even bringing this up now but my heart aches for you and it feels like you could process your emotions on this even better than you already have if you could only come up with something that would make sense as far as WHY someone's behavior could be so extreme. Feel free to contact me if you want to chat further about this slight possibility and please know you you will remain in my thoughts & prayers.

RR
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I think that is really interesting. I have analyzed every single shred of possibilities about this, and I never even gave this a thought! Thanks, even though I am completely convinced that I will never understand her, this potentially could have contributed to some of the changes that I saw her going through as I was going up, who knows? I am always looking for reasons of any type that she could have had something "cause" her to be this way... I will pm you one of these days, I have been so busy lately with kids, etc. If you feel up to it, maybe you could pm me a little bit about what happened to you because now I am so curious. Thank you so much River Rat.
 
I just got back from Spring Break, and we took the kids around southern california. I was walking past this area in Disney Land, and a memory of 6 years ago came. I had to stop and look at that bench for a bit before I could move on. I sat on that bench, sick as a dog after putting off our vacation for a week due to not being able to see and having bloody diahreah from the candy that I ate. I could not walk far due to my muscle weakness and swollen right leg. My husband took kids around while I sat on that bench in so much agony trying to pretend I was enjoying myself for their sakes. This time, I was wearing my girls out! They would get sore feet, or need a break, and I was ready to go and having a great time. What a difference 6 years makes.
 
Lucky,
I found this thread on Friday (June 1, 2012) and have been glued to it since! Reading this post I have to tell you that you are absolutely correct. When you have that feeling of peace you are being lead in the right direction.
I am a medical provider (Family Nurse Practitioner) and have seen malingering and Munchausen Syndrome and Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy first hand. While I obviously have not examined your mother, I would say she exhibits classic symptoms of these disorders. I also believe (from your descriptions and the descriptions of others) that she also has a personality disorder, either Borderline and/or Narcissistic personality disorder. While not always noted, some patients who are diagnosed as having Narcissistic personality disorder were quite shy and avoided the spot light as children. All of this is just my two cents. Just know that even though I have never met you, I wish you all the best and send my support to you.
 
Thank you hducky 1977. I really appreciate such thoughtful, helpful posts that shed light on different angles of this dark storm I have walked through. I agree with your analysis from a person who has only lived through loving someone with that personality, not done this professionally.

July 4th was both of my parent's birthday- right around the corner... and I came to a stunning conclusion the other day as I was thinking this through. I finally forgive her. I don't have her in my life because I believe she is dangerous, but I think I finally understand how she came to be who she was and is- and I can accept that, and it is a huge burden off of me. I will never completely forgive her for what happened to my daughter, but the rest of it- even what happened to me personally- is gone from my heart mind and soul as something I am dragging around with me. I have my own life finally free of her consequences and shadows. It has taken a long time- but I can finally remember the good things about her and leave the rest behind.

I sure hope she doesn't get married again or anything... but I finally realize it's not my fault or responsibility what she does next. I really owe a lot of this freedom of mind to people posting out here over the past few years as I struggled to understand this.
 
lucky2 said:
She's getting married again.
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Nooooooo!!! Is she still in Utah? Is he or his family aware of her history? Maybe sending an anonymous copy of the original KSL article would be a good thing?
 
SuziQ said:
Nooooooo!!! Is she still in Utah? Is he or his family aware of her history? Maybe sending an anonymous copy of the original KSL article would be a good thing?
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I will private message to you the name of the new soon to be hub.. she met him while on her mormon mission in San Diego. I guess this is why she felt inspired to stay there instead of come home and help my sister out with her stage 4 cancer... of course , he is rich. I am nervous about sending any other details because this is looking at a current issue, not analyzing a past one- so I don't want to let the name of the new man out into this public area for that reason.
 
mom2six said:
I honestly have no words. This is horrible.
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I agree- even though it was entirely predictable, it's still unbelievable to see it play out. I could write a script of what the next two years are going to look like for this man. Today, I was talking to a member of the third dad's family, and this person told me something I had never heard before- that the special serial killer polygrapher from the FBI that they flew in to interrogate her said that she was a "-------- psychopath" (they can't remember the word that went in front of psychopath.) The FBI specialist said that it's not that she stuffs emotions and they build up to make some type of personality issues, it's that she doesn't have any emotions, or know how to make any emotional connections. That was really interesting.
 
SuziQ said:
Nooooooo!!! Is she still in Utah? Is he or his family aware of her history? Maybe sending an anonymous copy of the original KSL article would be a good thing?
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I am afraid of her... seriously. a healthy fear -not sure how to handle it without putting my family in danger. She is still in utah for now, but apparently going to move to San Diego to be married to this new guy. (not sure). I think I will let the police and FBI decide how to make sure this one stays safe.
 
I was thinking... I know we have to stay safe from psychopaths, but how can we really hold someone that has such a huge deficiency such as the inability to feel- how can we hold them responsible for being cold and unfeeling? I know that there is another woman in my genetic line who was similarly "cold" based on stories from my grandma- I can't ever understand how someone could do these things, but I wonder that since it is such a huge unseen handicap, that to hold them ultimately responsible equal to a normal feeling human - doesn't sound very fair.
 
I would absolutely LOVE to have an update any minute now!
 
Hi Guys! Please remember not to talk about pm'ing in the threads. Just do it, don't discuss it.

Thanks,

Salem
 
I found an obituary for a Roy D. Forgy who died in 2009 who used to live in Ottuwma. I wondered if that is the same one we've talked about. ?
 
Hi Mitsy, yes- sorry 7 months later on a response. That is the correct Roy Forgy. The FBI autopsied him along with the other two husbands, and told the family "the substance found in your father was not enough to get this case pushed through the US Attorney's Office" in Utah. At the time Roy accused my mother of poisoning him the Mayo Clinic found Cadmium in him.

So- the reason I am updating this today- Here is husband number 4, the only one still alive- they've been married about a year now- and I don't think he knows anything of her history - and now they are leaving to south america together for a year. I just am feeling worried and don't have anything I can say or do about it- so I thought I would post about it.

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