MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #5

[hoppyfrog]

It's D.

And that's ALL that will be said on this forum about her middle name.

Hoppy
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[*~Aimee~*]

Someone logged int AB's myspace account again this afternoon. Wonder if LE is keeping tabs on something?

I would bet her lawyer. I bet she gave him the pw to view it. Unless a family member like in Casey Anthony's case when Lee would do it. :waitasec:​

 

[*~Aimee~*]

And that's ALL that will be said on this forum about her middle name.

Hoppy
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hope the way I pointed to it was alright. If not I'll redo it. Please let me know....:waitasec:​

 

[crimecurious]

And that's ALL that will be said on this forum about her middle name.

Hoppy
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I'm sorry. I'm trying to follow the rules. I thought that exact info was already on here buried somewhere.

 

[*~Aimee~*]

Well, this one for sure is going to fire up alot of WS membership. Won't be long before this story has its own thread. Are you going to start one Curious?

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?list=~\news\lists\local&id=369727

I can for you all. It is easy just figure out the place to put it. ​

ETA here it is for you:
Brumley man arrested for child abuse, infant in hospital - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Money Girl]

I think it is in her twitter page? The user name I think is her first and middle with no space?? I could be wrong not sure. :waitasec:​

Mother - M?

Father - J?

 

[*~Aimee~*]

Mother - M?

Father - J?

let me look back on the threads from last night. His MDOC pic is in there. BRB​

ETA: here is last nights post:
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased MO-Elizabeth Olten, 9, St. Martins Thread #4

 

[danni]

Mother - M?

Father - J?

Mother's first initial, yes, father no.

 

[danni]

I'm sorry. I'm trying to follow the rules. I thought that exact info was already on here buried somewhere.

I dont think your in trouble I think they just want to make sure EVERYONE knows no more than that is to be given away here.

 

[crimecurious]

I've been working on something that interests me and I'd like some thoughts. I've been measuring the woods since I believe LE said the body was "several hundred" yards in the woods behind Elizabeth's home. I'm guessing that to be maybe 900-1000 feet. If I go staight south it's already on the gps property and I think LE would have said "near the suspects residence." If I go west it runs very close to a subdivision off of another road. If I go southwest it measures to a large pond. I superzoomed the pond area and there appears to be a trail/path of some sort that runs along side the pond and all the way back to the road between the gps property and the property beside it. I'm guessing that would have to be the area they found her. And if there's a trail, it would have been much easier to get that far back and then home than one might think. However, if it was more to the west, that might support the theory of the perp to going to a friends house.

 

[milliac]

The suspect. She posted videos on You Tube of her brothers, egging them on to do dangerous tunts to hurt themselves. So if this were a pre-planned act, would she have possibly tried to video that as well? It's too creepy to contemplate...

She certainly did egg them on in those videos. It appeared those boys were he77 on wheels and the ones GP could worry about more. ROCK ON! :dance: Most of it appeared to me be sibling kind of stuff, hoping to get a cool jacka$$ video on You Tube. I checked out her friends, and its sad...they just seem like normal teenage girls who love music and eachother. They must be torn up about this. I really hope she didn't video what she did to Elizabeth.

 

[milliac]

Us Mom's have a way about us that we can sense when our children are in trouble. She knew something was not right and suspected AB.

That is true. I still remember my son playing outside on his big wheel. I was in the living room folding laundry, watching him out the window. Something literally screamed at me to run outside just as a truck was backing out of the driveway about to hit my son. I ran across the street and pulled him off his bigwheel just before the truck hit it. I am a firm believer that mom's do have an instinct with their children.

 

[velvetrose]

I've been working on something that interests me and I'd like some thoughts. I've been measuring the woods since I believe LE said the body was "several hundred" yards in the woods behind Elizabeth's home. I'm guessing that to be maybe 900-1000 feet. If I go staight south it's already on the gps property and I think LE would have said "near the suspects residence." If I go west it runs very close to a subdivision off of another road. If I go southwest it measures to a large pond. I superzoomed the pond area and there appears to be a trail/path of some sort that runs along side the pond and all the way back to the road between the gps property and the property beside it. I'm guessing that would have to be the area they found her. And if there's a trail, it would have been much easier to get that far back and then home than one might think. However, if it was more to the west, that might support the theory of the perp to going to a friends house.

I have been measuring and trying to determine her route as well. I also saw the clearing/path area along the pond. I am torn -don't know the exact area where they found Elizabeth. Do you?

 

[danni]

I've been working on something that interests me and I'd like some thoughts. I've been measuring the woods since I believe LE said the body was "several hundred" yards in the woods behind Elizabeth's home. I'm guessing that to be maybe 900-1000 feet. If I go staight south it's already on the gps property and I think LE would have said "near the suspects residence." If I go west it runs very close to a subdivision off of another road. If I go southwest it measures to a large pond. I superzoomed the pond area and there appears to be a trail/path of some sort that runs along side the pond and all the way back to the road between the gps property and the property beside it. I'm guessing that would have to be the area they found her. And if there's a trail, it would have been much easier to get that far back and then home than one might think. However, if it was more to the west, that might support the theory of the perp to going to a friends house.

"The body was found near the wooden area of Elizabeth's home." http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=367027
"AT&T triangulated the location as deep in the woods behind Elizabeth's home. Family members say Elizabeth would not have gone into the woods."
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?list=366949&id=366728

BBM
Then I THOUGHT they said the phone was found with/near Elizabeth. right?

the theory of being next to the path would make sense if she was found NEAR the woods, but still DEEP in the woods. You can be back in the woods but still NEXT to the woods if you are on a path IN the woods.

 

[Raebie]

The cell phone was found on Elizabeth's body.

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=367027

 

[velvetrose]

"The body was found near the wooden area of Elizabeth's home." http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=367027
"AT&T triangulated the location as deep in the woods behind Elizabeth's home. Family members say Elizabeth would not have gone into the woods."
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?list=366949&id=366728

BBM
Then I THOUGHT they said the phone was found with/near Elizabeth. right?

the theory of being next to the path would make sense if she was found NEAR the woods, but still DEEP in the woods. You can be back in the woods but still NEXT to the woods if you are on a path IN the woods.

Got ya!!!

 

[human]

I have woods in my yard. Have you ever tried digging in the woods with all of the roots and rocks, etc? That was one determined girl.
I still think that she has attachment disorder, especially now that I see how she liked to see her brother get hurt.I saw a 4 year old boy set up ways to hurt other children. He was diagnosed with attachment disorder.
I imagine eventually she will be heavily medicated.

 

[Jules71]

I've been working on something that interests me and I'd like some thoughts. I've been measuring the woods since I believe LE said the body was "several hundred" yards in the woods behind Elizabeth's home. I'm guessing that to be maybe 900-1000 feet. If I go staight south it's already on the gps property and I think LE would have said "near the suspects residence." If I go west it runs very close to a subdivision off of another road. If I go southwest it measures to a large pond. I superzoomed the pond area and there appears to be a trail/path of some sort that runs along side the pond and all the way back to the road between the gps property and the property beside it. I'm guessing that would have to be the area they found her. And if there's a trail, it would have been much easier to get that far back and then home than one might think. However, if it was more to the west, that might support the theory of the perp to going to a friends house.

Ditto. We have seen this picture already in one of these threads. It looks to me like that wooded area straight down the dirt road driveway to the white house is pretty hilly. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=400+lomo+dr,+jefferson+city,+MO&daddr=200+lomo+dr,+jefferson+city,+MO&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=38.58449,-92.3256&sspn=0.011205,0.024462&g=200+lomo+dr,+jefferson+city,+MO&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=38.581882,-92.325671&spn=0,359.995872&z=19&layer=c&cbll=38.581794,-92.325675&panoid=jZYmXF5tlqFRGUaoQgDCow&cbp=12,259.59,,0,8.1

 

[Kamille]

If AB's family had horses and Elizabeth liked horses, is it possible that AB offered her a ride on a horse back into the woods? Wouldn't they have had some trails through the woods for the horses? Where else would they have ridden them?

 

[Lqqkout]

posted by crimecurious: FYI, this is the same town that AB's dad lived before arrested...

That is a creepy, make your hair stand up on end kinda coincidence.

Do we know what crimes the parents were convicted and how long are their sentences?