MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #7

[mia g]

Respectfully, I only quoted the above as it is likely to be deleted by poster

As I find the post disturbing; Of course, I find it disturbing that a poster would come here to dupe and play with many folks who genuinely care about others, but even more disturbing is the brag, as I would prefer to avoid posting to the underaged

I have to observe that this poster must have missed or not noticed all of the posts that questioned the ILC posts; Of course, Many times people see only what they want to see, especially when they have an agenda as announced above

As far a boast that "all of you clung to what I say as thought is is fact" that might be somewhat exaggerated as I have read many posts question the "facts" posted by ILC

In addition, quite a few of us commented on the fact that this poster deleted many posts, and this poster seemed to disappear when someone asked a probing question about one of the posts -- For example, I remember a poster asked the excellent and pointed question if the family knew that their "friend" was posting information here --- all this poster demonstrated to me is how very caring and tolerant the WS community is!

(we did not question who he was as we are following the important TOS not to sleuth posters here)

Yes it was me that questioned him "if his friend" knew he was posting here, and I noticed though he addressed post all around mine, he never did answer any of the legit questions I asked. So though I noted some of his rumors, I didnt believe him to be legit.

Since I am new BUT have seen a "shadow" screen name, who is that..someone that got banned?

 

[YourMom]

It is illegal to come to a website and pretend you are someone you are not with the intent of disrupting the site. That was his intent clearly. Why else pretend unless you want to cause harm to the site.

Websleuths is a legitimate business. Imagine if someone called Domino's and pretended to order 200 pizzas. That is harassment of the business. Just like here.

The old days of pulling this kind of crap are over my friends.

I guess I am missing the point where he caused "harm" to anyone.

 

[nursebeeme]

I noticed that folks on another forum are poking fun at this site for the whole ILC thing, and I would like to share my feelings about that:
1. You obviously are just driven by gossip, because none of that would have been said if you actually cared about this situation or the people involved. Shame on you.
2. I am glad I picked the right forum to join to follow this case.
3. Grow up.

BBM

this is nothing new.

I for one chose to only read here and I do not even care to know what they are "up to" over there. It is toxic. I am not saying this to be mean in any way bigflaw but I just don't even want to hear about the latest websleuths bashing going on...

 

[Recovering-Lurker]

Can you sue someone for saying that they like cookies? It's not illegal to pretend you are someone you are not, unless it's like enticing a minor or something. I'm sure everyone here learned a, er, um, valuble lesson. :blushing:

Why don't you go back and hang over at the other site. You said you were about to get banned over here, so I'm sure you're just trying to cause problems. What good does that do? It's really sad and pathetic when people act like this when the rest of us are discussing and sleuthing a serious crime.

 

[Tricia]

If he hasn't been to Jefferson in years then he borrowed a Jefferson phone number to call me. The area code is 573. Check it for yourself.

 

[Prof]

FYI, when he "deleted" his posts they are not "deleted" at all. I still have access to them and can put them back up.[/QUOTE

hmmn! It would be fun to look at them all together, but I could not rationalize time spent on that lol

I saw very few of his original posts:
I was reading his posts as they were quoted by others, so they were not in any chronological order or contextualized; politely I gave him a slight benefit of the doubt because of that fact --

hmmn it is interesting if he was both a troll and a local --

 

[Tricia]

Are we now permitted to voice our previously-unvoiced theories about ILC? Thanks for your guidance.

As long as you don't accuse innocent people of being involved. They have a suspect in custody so please don't post a theory that throws guilt onto someone else.

 

[Csquare]

If he hasn't been to Jefferson in years then he borrowed a Jefferson phone number to call me. The area code is 573. Check it for yourself.

Columbia is in the 573 area code also. Sorry this jerk got over on you.

 

[LadyRider]

573 is the area code for this entire area. I am in Columbia. I lived in Jefferson City a few years back. Towards Boonville Mo the area code does change, towards Moberly MO it changes, down towards Springfield it changes.

 

[Tricia]

FYI, when he "deleted" his posts they are not "deleted" at all. I still have access to them and can put them back up.[/QUOTE

hmmn! It would be fun to look at them all together, but I could not rationalize time spent on that lol

I saw very few of his original posts:
I was reading his posts as they were quoted by others, so they were not in any chronological order or contextualized; politely I gave him a slight benefit of the doubt because of that fact --

hmmn it is interesting if he was both a troll and a local --

I am thinking about putting them all up together. If he was a troll and a local then he was trying to mess with the case the only way he thought he could.

Guys, I have to run out and won't be back until later. Many of you have my cell. Don't hesitate to call me if anything else happens:banghead:

 

[Capri]

Originally Posted by Ilovecookies

I would like to point out that what people do on websites like this is damn wrong. Who cares about the KNP blog, or whether or not she converted to marry him, or even what religion they are.

Also, just to point out that you "slueths" have been duped. I'm what the internet refers to as a troll. I don't know anything about AB's family, I just reposted what I've been reading online. Also, I'm not even local, I'm from columbia, and haven't been to jefferson city in years.

As to my credibility, it is 0, but it is interesting to see that ANYONE can get on ANY of these sights, and pretend to be ANYONE they want to be. Also, it is pretty interesting to see that all of you clung to what I say as though it is fact. I'm actually surprised that you "gossips" haven't truly questioned my credibility before.

Anyway I guess I'll get banned now so for the last time,

ILC/Shadow2nose OUT!

And I'm guessing Tricia has your phone number and ISP address.

 

[Tricia]

573 is the area code for this entire area. I am in Columbia. I lived in Jefferson City a few years back. Towards Boonville Mo the area code does change, towards Moberly MO it changes, down towards Springfield it changes.

Really? It's for the entire area of Jefferson City and Columbia? Great. Now there is no way for me to be able to tell.

I checked it first thing when I got off the phone and it came up Jefferson City. It never occured to me that a surrounding city would use it too.

It's days like today that make me really weary you know?

 

[Tricia]

Originally Posted by Ilovecookies

And I'm guessing Tricia has your phone number and ISP address.

Yep and more

 

[Jules71]

I need more COFFEE!:coffeeup:

 

[SereneOne]

It is illegal to come to a website and pretend you are someone you are not with the intent of disrupting the site. That was his intent clearly. Why else pretend unless you want to cause harm to the site.

Websleuths is a legitimate business. Imagine if someone called Domino's and pretended to order 200 pizzas. That is harassment of the business. Just like here.

The old days of pulling this kind of crap are over my friends.

I hope I'm not violating any rules, but now that ILC has been shown to be not exactly what he purported to be, I would like to put my theory out there about him, for what it's worth. I think he is definitely a person who has "a dog in this fight," either someone who is friends with someone, or who actually lives/lived, in the gp house, OR (more likely, IMHO) an irresponsible rogue member/affiliate/hanger-on of one of the legal teams representing one of the family members who got lawyered up early on in the case. I don't feel any reputable legal team would do what ILC has done, so I am not implying anything about the upstanding lawyers who are representing people in the case. Nearly every comment of ILC demonstrated a bias in favor of those living in the house (but not in favor of the suspect). I feel, as others have said, that he fears exposure and so has deleted posts and now put on his "I duped you" jerk hat to try to wiggle out of it.

I want to make it clear I have no connection to this case; I am just an interested, curious and horrified bystander trying to understand what happened and hoping to see justice served. The above was and is my opinion about ILC and his motives.

 

[Jamiejy]

Forks, WA is from the series Twilight... Think this has been mentioned. They are all from MO I am pretty sure.

I know it's were Twilight takes place thank you. I was just saying that you can never be sure who could be responsible for taking someone or someone's life in todays day and age.

 

[Tricia]

I hope I'm not violating any rules, but now that ILC has been shown to be not exactly what he purported to be, I would like to put my theory out there about him, for what it's worth. I think he is definitely a person who has "a dog in this fight," either someone who is friends with someone, or who actually lives/lived, in the gp house, OR (more likely, IMHO) an irresponsible rogue member/affiliate/hanger-on of one of the legal teams representing one of the family members who got lawyered up early on in the case. I don't feel any reputable legal team would do what ILC has done, so I am not implying anything about the upstanding lawyers who are representing people in the case. Nearly every comment of ILC demonstrated a bias in favor of those living in the house (but not in favor of the suspect). I feel, as others have said, that he fears exposure and so has deleted posts and now put on his "I duped you" jerk hat to try to wiggle out of it.

I want to make it clear I have no connection to this case; I am just an interested, curious and horrified bystander trying to understand what happened and hoping to see justice served. The above was and is my opinion about ILC and his motives.

Thank you and I agree. I think you might be right. Thank you.

Tell you what. Let's discuss this jerk for today. Figure stuff out and then blott him out of our memory.

I really have to run because I am later than my normal lateness. Yikes.

 

[gliving]

I'm sure http://www.kurtvalentine.com/ AB's attorney would love to hear that his case for client AB is being compromised by someone posing as a family member.

Kurt Valentine
Attorney at Law
611 E. Capitol Ave.
Jefferson City, MO 65101
573-462-0788

Or maybe (573) 634-9160 http://www.colecountysheriff.org/?

 

[Padua]

I quit reading what ILC said a looong time ago. Remember he made a comment about his friend couldn't leave the house and missed a job interview? Then he said in another post his friend had a job.

I asked him about it and he said he it was his other friend in the house. That just didn't make since.

Then he made the stupidest post about how he told us the wrong information because he read the wrong text on his phone.

He's just a guy getting tweaked out on weed trying to amuse himself.


He needs to puff puff pass this way 'cause whatever he has must be good.

 

[Padua]

Don't worry about it guys. ILC won't return until 4:20 then we can deal with him.