I never said he murdered them. I don't think he had anything to do directly with their deaths. But I am struck by how many are very sure that he is like John Nash in "A Beautiful Mind" and was cognating so intensely for days that he didn't notice anything.
Dear friends, be aware. These are 4 known facts of life about fentanyl:
1. DEA Warns of Increase in Mass-Overdose Events Involving Deadly Fentanyl
Sourced DEA dot gov
https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/...ass-overdose-events-involving-deadly-fentanyl
“the Drug Enforcement Administration sent a letter to federal, state, and local law enforcement partners warning of a nationwide spike in fentanyl-related mass-overdose events.”
This means, everything else equal, cases of multiple people killed simultaneously after taking fentanyl are getting more common.
Mass deaths similar to what happened to the 3 Kansas football fans are more common.
But we do not know yet if fentanyl was involved in this Kansas case.
2. Fentanyl may impair breathing minutes before its sedative effect kicks in
Sourced at medical news today dot com
Opioids: How fentanyl affects the brain and impairs breathing”
This means, everything else equal, most people who take fentanyl want to go outdoor to get fresh air and catch their breath BEFORE they fall asleep.
3. There are cases of Mass-Overdose Events when those who go outside died and those who stayed indoor survived
Sourced ABC news dot com
“At least 3 dead in Pittsburgh drug-overdose horror [...]
At least 3 dead in Pittsburgh drug-overdose horror
At least three people died and four others were hospitalized in serious to critical condition after overdosing on drugs in Pittsburgh.abcnews.go.com
One man was found passed out in the street outside the apartment building and later died, police said at a news conference. Another victim was found unresponsive in an elevator, according to authorities. When police officers went inside the apartment where the drugs were allegedly taken, they found five other people in need of medical assistance, authorities said.”
This means, everything else equal after taking fentanyl, 1) the most respiratory distressed went out and died but 2) those less distressed who did not need fresh air stayed indoor and survived.
4. Fentanyl is similar to morphine and heroin, but is 50 to 100 times more potent
Fentanyl Exposure Risks for Law Enforcement and Emergency Response Workers
Sourced at cdc dot gov
Fentanyl Exposure Risks for Law Enforcement and Emergency Response Workers | Blogs | CDC
“Fentanyl is a powerful synthetic drug that is similar to morphine and heroin, but is 50 to 100 times more potent. Fentanyl and its analogs, such as carfentanil, can pose a potential hazard to law enforcement, emergency medical personnel, and firefighters who could come into contact with these drugs through the course of their work day.”
This means, everything else equal: 1) for one “amount” of heroin that makes you fall asleep in 100 minutes, 2) the same “amount” of morphine will make you fall asleep in 50 minutes, and 3) the same “amount” of fentanyl will make you fall asleep in 1 minute!
This is how very dangerous fentanyl is.
You might fall asleep while driving within minutes of taking it!
(1st part -- shortened in 3 parts by me)
Thank you for pointing this out. I'd be willing to bet this relates exactly 100%. We'll see.On January 16, a week after these Kansas City men were found, the bodies of four men were found at a Palmdale CA home - TWO OF THEM IN THE BACKYARD .
Jeffrey Roth, 34, Ronald Roth, 62, Thomas Ramsey, 35, and Paul Harris, 37.
As I've said a million times in my life and I will say a million more, I don't know why some news stories are practically ignored while others catch fire.
I know a little about Websleuths policies, but not enough to know why this site hasn't made a post about the case. Hope it's OK I post this link since it kinda sorta relates?
Four men found dead at Palmdale home ID'd
PALMDALE - Authorities have identified the four men who were found dead at a Palmdale home on Jan. 16.They were Jeffrey Roth, 34, Ronald Roth, 62, Thomas Ramsey, 35, and Paul Harris, 37, according to the Los Angeles County Department of Medical Examiner.The men were discovered around 4:30 p.theavtimes.com
Four men found dead at Palmdale home ID'd
PALMDALE - Authorities have identified the four men who were found dead at a Palmdale home on Jan. 16.They were Jeffrey Roth, 34, Ronald Roth, 62, Thomas Ramsey, 35, and Paul Harris, 37, according to the Los Angeles County Department of Medical Examiner.The men were discovered around 4:30 p.
www.websleuths.com
Do expand on your thoughts!
David wasn't close with JW or go to highschool with him... the other 2 did... he only knew JW by association. Everyone likes to make assumptions all 3 friends went to hs with him
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source close to JW's fam said JW only has one dog and dog was with dad. i have provided this link 2 or 3 times. idk if source is accurate of course but the news quoted them.
again... no... this is not a thing.This is very scary information. Here is another link from NY from last Spring. My guess is that by now, it's everywhere:
Police issue warning for illegally-purchased marijuana laced with fentanyl
NYS is touting its buy legal campaign by promising safety.spectrumlocalnews.com
www.uc.edu
Thanks for this link! Excellent info and a good point. Either that or they work for the same overarching company.Here’s a timeline with some new information I have not read:
Kansas City Timeline: Final Hours of 3 Found Dead at Classmate's Home
Friends and family are not happy with what they say is a lack of information and want to know how Jordan Willis could not have seen the bodies in his backyard, and why he has not spoken with them about what happened the night.www.insideedition.com
One of the three tells his cousin Alan, that he and one of the other guys who was there that night will cover for Alan at his construction job on Monday. So this means that at least two of the three were expected at the same construction site on Monday.
Thanks for the info. It surprises me not that JW's got yet something else wrong. I'm sure he'll..um...clarify it again.I just now watched this for the first time and must share something VERY IMPORTANT:
How he describes Robokiller working is not how it works.
"The only calls that came in were one from his dad, and the other calls - there were 8 of them - they came in from a dummy number. When calls come in and they're unrecognized, they come in as this dummy number. The only other call that came in was from a number that was all 000s."
It doesn't just block any random number from reaching you, first of all. If a number is a "normal number" it is not blocked from reaching you. More on that below.
Second, any number identified as spam, it stops from reaching you entirely.
Spam Calls 101: What They Are & How to Stop Them | Robokiller
Learn what spam calls are, how to identify them, effective techniques to block and avoid them, and actionable tips to keep your phone spam-free.www.robokiller.com
I agree, she is quoted as saying:
What has he got wrong?
Perhaps I've misunderstood the above post but the link provided for robokiller says the user can block calls from numbers not in the user's address book. So the statement made above that it does not block "normal numbers" or "random numbers" is not necessarily true. The user can set it up to do that in addition to blocking known spam numbers.I just now watched this for the first time and must share something VERY IMPORTANT:
How he describes Robokiller working is not how it works.
"The only calls that came in were one from his dad, and the other calls - there were 8 of them - they came in from a dummy number. When calls come in and they're unrecognized, they come in as this dummy number. The only other call that came in was from a number that was all 000s."
It doesn't just block any random number from reaching you, first of all. If a number is a "normal number" it is not blocked from reaching you. More on that below.
Second, any number identified as spam, it stops from reaching you entirely.
Spam Calls 101: What They Are & How to Stop Them | Robokiller
Learn what spam calls are, how to identify them, effective techniques to block and avoid them, and actionable tips to keep your phone spam-free.
Please read the post I was replying to
themessenger.com
