rsbm -
Respectfully, I wrote 'some people', so whether or not that is the reason you dismissed the testimony does not make my statement inaccurate. You're just not part of the 'some' I mentioned.
Fair enough! Any comment on the video interview?
rsbm -
Respectfully, I wrote 'some people', so whether or not that is the reason you dismissed the testimony does not make my statement inaccurate. You're just not part of the 'some' I mentioned.
NO charges have been filed against Police Officer Darren Wilson. Is there evidence that Officer Wilson fired without cause and Michael Brown is a victim?
Has a verdict already been reached?
If a guy you are referring to is the same guy, I was hearing...
He said (paraphrasing), I heard a shot, then ___, so I started recording.
IOW, he did NOT SEE THE FIRST SHOT, just HEARD THE FIRST SHOT.
How could he know what LEO or MB were doing, leading up to the first shot, and actually at the time of the first shot?
If he was already at the window and looking out the window in approp direction, and saw what LEO & MB were doing at time of shot,
it would seem natural, imo, that he would have said, 'I SAW the shooting' NOT, 'I HEARD a shot'
Maybe I'm referring to someone other than the guy you heard. IDK.
JMO, IMO, MOO
I agree with what you wrote, but I would have to add that 'I'm afraid for some people it doesn't really matter what happened -- they want this officer exonerated.' I've read countless posts here that reject all witness statements given thus far because they simply cannot believe that a LEO would shoot someone unjustifiably as has been reported. I can't judge the shooting or the LEO at all at this point -- we simply do not have the facts.
I recall when the WTO protests got hijacked by out of town "anarchists" and downtown businesses were vandalized, dumpsters were set on fire, police cars were damaged, and the SWAT teams used some of the same tactics (smoke and tear gas) to try to quell the violence, the MSM outlets practically cheered the SWAT teams, even though some of the police officers used much more brutal tactics against peaceful protesters than we've witnessed in this situation. In Seattle, some of the cops physically restrained the peaceful demonstrators, forcibly opened their eyes, and sprayed pepper spray directly into their eyes. It was brutal.
As far as I'm concerned, the SWAT teams in Ferguson have shown incredible restraint, yet the MSM outlets are collectively vilifying them, rather than trying to report an unbiased account of events.
This is why I appreciate the livestream coverage provided by the indy journalists on the ground that we've been watching the past couple of nights. Thanks to journalists like Tim Pool with Vice News, we've gotten to see for ourselves what's going on, rather than having to rely on the extremely filtered, agenda-driven pseudo-reporting of the MSM.
I would like to listen but I cannot get your link to work. I tried a couple of different ways and just get a godaddy page.The bolded part is inaccurate. If I reject some or all of a witness statement, it is because they disqualify themselves with inconsistency or lack of credibility. For example...
Within minutes, this is one of the three witnesses, Piaget Crenshaw. Listen to her speak and tell me if you find any of her comments remotely odd. Her parts are from 1:16-1:32 and 1:45-1:56.
http://fox2now.com/2014/08/09/man-shot-killed-in-ferguson-apartment-complex/
I'll get to more of why I don't believe much of her statement eventually.
I was one of the posters on here who spoke out against the police arresting the journos in the McD's. I was outraged that it appeared that the police (under the direction of the FPD and the StL County PD) were trying to infringe upon 1st amendment rights of the peaceful protesters and the press. The police response in those instances was wrong, IMO.
I was up half the night on Friday and watched Tim Pool's livestream (Vice News) of the looting of the stores on Friday night, and I saw the group of peaceful protesters form a line to try to protect one of the stores. I was applauding them when they did so. They put themselves in danger and thankfully no one was harmed.
I'm a devout advocate of civil rights. I've marched in numerous protests. I've been active politically in my community (attending caucuses and getting elected as a delegate for my presidential candidate). I will always support someone's right to peacefully assemble. I will always support a free press.
I will not support looting, vandalism, or violence as an expression of 1st amendment rights. Most of the demonstrators are peaceful, but there are those who are looking for an excuse to cause mayhem and destruction.
Under Captain Johnson's authority, the police stood down Friday night. As a result, some business owners lost literally everything.
I appreciate that Captain Johnson wants to build a relationship with the community and I admire some of his leadership qualities. But that doesn't mean that LE should be rendered impotent in the face of the lawlessness that we witnessed Friday night. Thank Goodness Captain Johnson realized that the kinder, gentler approach wasn't going to work. Thank Goodness the governor declared a state of emergency and imposed a curfew.
While citizens have the right for their grievances to be heard and to do so in a respectful, peaceful manner, citizens also have the right to feel safe in their communities. Business owners have the right for their livelihoods to be protected from looters and vandals.
Michael is dead. He was unarmed. Shot multiple times. Left in the road uncovered as documented by neighbor's video. Daren Wilson is on paid leave. Neither stealing nor jaywalking is punishable by death. We don't know if he reached for the officers gun or about the assault on Wilson. I'm not going to depend on witness statements or the officers because I don't think either is objective. Based on the things we DO know, yeah I'd say Michael is a victim.
Is Dan McDermott of Google a media source? He has some stuff that gives Officer Wilson's side.
That wasn't my point. I saw the video. What I'm wondering is if he thought it wasn't robbery because he had no gun or knife and because of the dollar value of the item he took. iow, did he believe it was only a misdemeanor with a slap-on-the-wrist consequence? His demeanor on the tape is in sharp contrast to the one painted by friends and teachers.
NO charges have been filed against Police Officer Darren Wilson. Is there evidence that Officer Wilson fired without cause and Michael Brown is a victim?
Has a verdict already been reached?
I would like to listen but I cannot get your link to work. I tried a couple of different ways and just get a godaddy page.
That wasn't my point. I saw the video. What I'm wondering is if he thought it wasn't robbery because he had no gun or knife and because of the dollar value of the item he took. iow, did he believe it was only a misdemeanor with a slap-on-the-wrist consequence? His demeanor on the tape is in sharp contrast to the one painted by friends and teachers.
Let's see what I can find:
Here is one that seems to apply mainly to Europe:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sidesho...qs-dropped-14-points-over-last-180634194.html
I do read the Daily Mail so it's possible I read about a European study. I didn't remember where I heard or read the statistic, so that's why I said "so I've heard". Thank you for reminding me why it's good to find a link for things. If it's a European study I shouldn't say it's from the US. I find it hard to believe that IQ is up and not down based on what I see around me, but of course people would argue about what is a good IQ test.
Anyway, it's hard to evaluate a study from a news article but that was a possible theory trying to make sense of incomprehensible behavior. You know how they publish headlines saying this is good to eat then not too long after, another study saying it will kill you. You have to look at the actual study and you also have to know who paid for it and who did it to know if there is any truth to it.
Here is info on lead in St. Louis - http://leadsafestlouis.org/
"One child in 20 in the City of St. Louis has a blood lead level at or above the CDC level of concern."
"90 percent of the housing stock in St. Louis City was built before 1978 and may contain lead based paint."
http://leadsafe.aphidesign.com/risk/could-my-home-have-lead/
Side effect of lead - "aggressive and violent behavior"
http://leadsafe.aphidesign.com/risk/why-is-lead-dangerous/
It's not my idea that this might be a factor in high crime rates, I've heard this talked about before. I'm not a scientist so I can't say how much effect it might have. Just something to consider when people see behavior that makes no sense and ask, "why"?
When one consider the excessive amount of bullets that went into Mike Browns body, with a final shot to the forehead, I don't understand how many aren't outraged.
After the first shot when Mike Brown was surrendering, instead of emptying his weapon, he should have arrested him. Since he took that final shot to the forehead (as stated by DJ and Wilson's lady friend) I think this will prove very damning to Wilson.
Is it possible that Wilson acted out of anger? Sure in my mind he could. He felt disrespected that DJ and MB didn't immediately get out of the street as they were told.
I worry this could be me or any of my children. I don't believe an officer of the law needs to kill someone who is unarmed. He could have held MB at gunpoint as he calls for back up. Then MB would be under arrest but alive...