GUILTY MO - Ireland, 2 & Goodknight Ribando, 7 weeks, found dead outside home, Kearney, July 2018 *arrest*

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flourish said:
I'm wondering if maybe there are drugs that are flushed from urine but still show in saliva. I've never heard of such a thing. It is curious why they did that in this case. Any documents we get from this case are going to make for some very interesting reading! Anyone know if Kansas has a sunshine law?
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This occurred in Missouri not Kansas! If that is why you are asking about sunshine laws and I think Missouri has the sunshine law. imo
 
Just a bit of common sense here... if you go to visit someone, and their door is ajar, vehicle running, do you just leave? Or wait to see who comes out the house to get in the vehicle that is running? As my avatar shows, I trap cats. If I am returning a cat to it's home, and the same situation was presented, I would sit in my vehicle and wait for the homeowner to get come out. Because most likely, they were getting dressed, or had to run to the bathroom, etc, but with the vehicle running, I would assume they would soon come outside to leave and thus I could let them see the cat was OK that I was returning, and then let it out of the trap.

S0000 if you were going to check on the wellfare of CHILDREN, don't you think you would wait to see if the parent and kids came out of the house? I'm beginning to wonder if the social worker even went to the house. Maybe just said they did because they were suppose to be, but it was a holiday.... maybe they had plans and didn't want yet another case delaying their plans? I shouldn't be so skeptical.
 
kkdj said:
I'm so confused. One article says the mom went outside to find them unresponsive. Another says they were all asleep in the car and upon her awakening they were unresponsive. Another says she found them inside the home unresponsive. Another says she lost her house key and that is why the slept in the car. Another says when the dad left they were in the house. Another says she put them in the car so they didn't hear her and her man arguing. Gah!
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She can't keep her lies straight.
 
2Hope4 said:
Just a bit of common sense here... if you go to visit someone, and their door is ajar, vehicle running, do you just leave? Or wait to see who comes out the house to get in the vehicle that is running? As my avatar shows, I trap cats. If I am returning a cat to it's home, and the same situation was presented, I would sit in my vehicle and wait for the homeowner to get come out. Because most likely, they were getting dressed, or had to run to the bathroom, etc, but with the vehicle running, I would assume they would soon come outside to leave and thus I could let them see the cat was OK that I was returning, and then let it out of the trap.

S0000 if you were going to check on the wellfare of CHILDREN, don't you think you would wait to see if the parent and kids came out of the house? I'm beginning to wonder if the social worker even went to the house. Maybe just said they did because they were suppose to be, but it was a holiday.... maybe they had plans and didn't want yet another case delaying their plans? I shouldn't be so skeptical.
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I think I smell a rat here.
 
SassynOz said:
This makes no sense. She ran out of gas but the cps worker says it was running. She’s locked out but the door is open. I assumed she was in the running car for AC but SHE didn’t die of heat stroke yet the girls did? Why would the CPS worker leave knowing someone was home - door open ,car running? I’m scary to know what the actual truth is .
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It does make sense.. After the CPS worker left they were in there for what? Almost 3 more hours. She ran out of gas AFTER he left obviously. She clearly wasnt in the right state of mind to try and get in the shed for gas instead of calling 911 while she has two dead kids. Maybe she did go in the house. Who knows? Also she probably didnt die from heat because shes a full grown adult and not a 10 to 12 pound 7 week old baby or probably like a 25 pound 2 year old. (sorry im not sure how much kids weigh so those are complete guesses!!)
 
So it was low 70's that night and they didn't have AC the other nights so who would think sleeping in a car would be cooler?? I'm sure they had fans or something inside. They might not have had central air but I don't buy for a minute that she has a newer car and can't afford a window unit for the house under $10o.

I'm getting sick of reading all the new updates of what she said and how much it contradicts all the others. I've taken Xanax too. I have some in the house. In no way shape or form would it prevent me from remembering I have children and where they are or that a nursing baby needs to be fed. Her stories are just hogwash.

Remember she was supposedly in the car because her husband locked her out of the house? But a CPS worker and a police officer both prove that house was unlocked. Now she was in the car because no AC?

And her husband left at 3-4 am and she saw him in a field with some girl? Oh, puhleaze! She saw him in a field at night?

My guess is dad or grandmom called after the fight. Dad's timeline of the fight and the CPS call time line up. Mom's new timelines is crap. I bet he called CPS on her in some level of retaliation after she threw a brick and rammed cars. BUT he didn't at that time honestly think she would physically hurt let alone kill their children. But he was wrong and now it's too late. Two babies just don't accidentally die within hours of an angry woman finding out her husband was cheating. They just don't. Particularly when angry mom's story is like swiss cheese.
 
Lucyray said:
I am now believing no way was mom in that car with her children. None of this makes sense. Car running at 9:30 a.m. With no one spotted (if she was asleep in the car, where was she? Two kids in car seats don't leave much room for stretching out. Think about it, if you were going to sleep with your kids, in a car, how would you really do that??). I think she may well have been in the house trying to figure out what to do. It might be interesting to see a search history in her phone or iPad for that time frame. I am sorry to have so much speculating going on in my brain!
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Is there somewhere that said the two kids were in car seats? If I was asleep with my two kids in the car and this is where we slept at night to keep cool I dont think id sleep in the front seat and them in car seats. Its a SUV. Most have a back seat that folds down and there would probably be a bed made back there for us. I wouldnt strap them into seats and sleep sitting up. Thats probably why they werent seen.
 
Sd8503 said:
It does make sense.. After the CPS worker left they were in there for what? Almost 3 more hours. She ran out of gas AFTER he left obviously. She clearly wasnt in the right state of mind to try and get in the shed for gas instead of calling 911 while she has two dead kids. Maybe she did go in the house. Who knows? Also she probably didnt die from heat because shes a full grown adult and not a 10 to 12 pound 7 week old baby or probably like a 25 pound 2 year old. (sorry im not sure how much kids weigh so those are complete guesses!!)
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Sorry. Nope. Don't buy it. I have kids that age. They would not just sleep all night long before it got hot the next late morning. They would have been awake long before the social worker called. They would have woken up many times all night, been crying and asking for food and to nurse. It wasn't hot at night and certainly not in a car if AC was running. So unless she drugged them that night they wouldn't have slept all night and all morning before gas ran out and it got hot enough to kill them.
 
beatrixpotter said:
Sorry. Nope. Don't buy it. I have kids that age. They would not just sleep all night long before it got hot the next late morning. They would have been awake long before the social worker called. They would have woken up many times all night, been crying and asking for food and to nurse. It wasn't hot at night and certainly not in a car if AC was running. So unless she drugged them that night they wouldn't have slept all night and all morning before gas ran out and it got hot enough to kill them.
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Ok so you dont think its possible that she was drugged and passed out (by her own doing!) and just slept through them crying and didnt get up?
 
kkdj said:
The investigator said he didn't think the AC was on as he didn't hear a fan. And as I said before, she was the only one that could get out, which she did. (I'm assuming the 2 year old and the 7 week old were strapped in their car seats.)
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He noticed whether or not the AC was on in the vehicle but didn’t check for children?
 
I have come up with a scenario that would fit with most of what she's said, and what others have said, but I'm not convinced it's even close to what happened. If the parents got into a fight at 11, the girls were in bed sleeping, the brick throwing and car crashing happened, and dad left as said, he could have gone to his mother's house like he said but she may have thought he went to pick up the girl he was accused of cheating with. When he wasn't back by 3-4 am, she may have assumed he was with the girl and put the girls in the car to prepare for the fight when he got home (which never happened). She could have covered them to protect them from bugs, etc. and left the car running with the air on low to keep them cool thinking it wouldn't be that long before he was back and the fight was over. While waiting for him, she could have been drinking and eventually fallen asleep/passed out.

When the CP worker came the next morning, she could have been passed out in bed and not heard him, and the girls were still sleeping in the car. If the car ran out of gas shortly after he left, it might not take long for it to heat up in there without the air on. I'm not sure how likely it is, but could they have died from the heat if they were in the car from about 9:45 until 12:00 with the windows closed and no air on? Putting cold water on them and fanning them sounds like they were trying to cool them off because they were overheated.

I know this whole idea is extremely unlikely, but I'm really trying hard to come up with a way that it could have happened that didn't involve just one more parent who put herself before her children, or killed them out of spite for someone else. MOO
 
2Hope4 said:
Just a bit of common sense here... if you go to visit someone, and their door is ajar, vehicle running, do you just leave? Or wait to see who comes out the house to get in the vehicle that is running? As my avatar shows, I trap cats. If I am returning a cat to it's home, and the same situation was presented, I would sit in my vehicle and wait for the homeowner to get come out. Because most likely, they were getting dressed, or had to run to the bathroom, etc, but with the vehicle running, I would assume they would soon come outside to leave and thus I could let them see the cat was OK that I was returning, and then let it out of the trap.

S0000 if you were going to check on the wellfare of CHILDREN, don't you think you would wait to see if the parent and kids came out of the house? I'm beginning to wonder if the social worker even went to the house. Maybe just said they did because they were suppose to be, but it was a holiday.... maybe they had plans and didn't want yet another case delaying their plans? I shouldn't be so skeptical.
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I'd wondered that, too, as they reportedly live in a rural area, if you drove all the way out there why give up after only a few minutes? Unless you didn't make the drive out there in first place? Only, the worker did report the status of the jeep as running, and I don't think someone would randomly make that detail up. I think they showed up, gave a cursory glance and knock, and left. Pretty weak investigative work there, buddy.
 
Sd8503 said:
Is there somewhere that said the two kids were in car seats? If I was asleep with my two kids in the car and this is where we slept at night to keep cool I dont think id sleep in the front seat and them in car seats. Its a SUV. Most have a back seat that folds down and there would probably be a bed made back there for us. I wouldnt strap them into seats and sleep sitting up. Thats probably why they werent seen.
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If only she had a singular story. Because one of the stories says she put them in there to not hear them fighting, which would make me think they were in the carseats. Another version has them all sleeping in there because they were locked out, in which case she wouldn't necessarily have access to blankets and such to make a bed in the back.

This whole story is just super duper hinky. I keep coming up with theories and then picking them apart.

Someone upthread mentioned she looks so different in her mug shot. I chalk that up to a couple of things--a) she almost certainly uses photo filters and editing and such on her facebook photos where she looks, IMO, incredibly gorgeous, plus makeup vs no makeup. b) mug shots are somehow designed to make one look their worst.
A couple of years ago, my husband was arrested. I saw what he looked like before getting into the police car for the two mile drive to the jail. But his mug shot? It wasn't nearly like some I've seen-- he wasn't drunk or high or having weird facial tattoos LOL, but the lighting made him look really blotchy and somehow made his eyes look dull and dead. He was still handsome, of course, as he's my husband. But honestly I think you could take a really lovely looking person and a mug shot will somehow make them look not as good. You can see the misery in this woman's eyes in hers, I thought...she looked pretty defeated. IDK though it could be the picture :)
 
This case has me so confused!
Boedecker told authorities after she argued with her husband, she was locked out of the home and didn't have her key, according to one search warrant affidavit. She said she took the girls into the family Jeep and fell asleep with them. In a second search warrant affidavit, Boedecker told detectives she put the girls in the Jeep so they wouldn't hear her arguing with her husband and then briefly dozed off.<snip>
Before that call, social worker JaQuan Humphrey went to the home in response to a call to make an assessment at the home. Humphrey told police he noticed the car was running but didn't approach because "he did not want someone thinking he could have been prowling around cars out in a rural area," according to police.

After getting no response to several knocks on the door, he walked past the car and didn't see anyone inside, according to the affidavit, but he acknowledged he wouldn't have seen children in the back seat or an adult in the front if they were slumped over.
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Mother gives differing accounts about night 2 girls died

The social worker noticed the car was running but didn't approach it because he didn't want to look like he was "prowling around?" At that time the car was running.

Court documents state Boedecker told Clay County deputies she had the children in her vehicle, a silver Jeep Patriot, the night of July 3 because she didn't want them to hear her argue with her husband.

Court documents also state Boedecker told authorities she did not have her house key and was locked out of her home, so she took her children to sleep in the Jeep. Boedecker reportedly told investigators her vehicle had less a quarter tank of gas at the time.
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Mother says she fell asleep in vehicle; girls found dead next day

OMG - from Warrant: Mother of Clay County girls found dead told police she fell asleep with car running

The search warrant also reveals someone called the Missouri Department of Social Services hotline at 11 p.m. the night before the girls died. The complaint was not deemed as serious enough to be handled immediately so it "was put off until the morning".

I don't often get this confused. I trust LE will straighten things out over the next few days. My heart breaks for both children but I can't wrap my head around ignoring a 7-week-old baby for that amount of time. I feel sick.
 
Sd8503 said:
Is there somewhere that said the two kids were in car seats? If I was asleep with my two kids in the car and this is where we slept at night to keep cool I dont think id sleep in the front seat and them in car seats. Its a SUV. Most have a back seat that folds down and there would probably be a bed made back there for us. I wouldnt strap them into seats and sleep sitting up. Thats probably why they werent seen.
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Nope. I haven't seen anything mentioning car seats. I was doing my own suppositioning..I was thinking that if she had put them in the car to get them out of the house, that she would put them in their respective car seats. In honesty, I have no clue, but am just trying to envision what may have happened. So, sorry for mentioning car seats..I just assumed that that's what people do with kids in cars these days. A seven week old baby? Just laying in a car? I would have bet in a car seat! Sorry if I mislead anyone.
 
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