MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #13

[cherrymeg]

I just want to clarify something with EVERYONE. When Richard refers to the Single Perp, who has used several names, and dates of birth, and used female or male, he's trying to refer to ME.

This is how insane this man is.

I had absolutely zilch, zero, nada, nothing what so ever to do with the 3MW crime.

I was at work for a TV station working an overnight shift the night the crime happened......100-miles away from Springfield. Period!

I used to live in Springfield, a few miles from the Delmar house........"When I was in Grade School".

But because Richard doesn't like me, as he has done to so many others, he's implying that I had something to do with this crime.......when that couldn't be further from the truth.

Give it a rest already Sherlock Homes......You couldn't be more incorrect if you tried.

You need your head examined. How many people have you accused of being part of the 3MW crime, just because they disagreed with you?

Anyone who want's confirmation of his behavior, just needs to go back and read his posts over the years, and you'll see just how many times he's accused innocent people of involvement in the 3MW crime, just because they've ticked him off by not agreeing with him, or arguing with him.

And with that, I'm not addressing anything further regarding his insane false insinuations. Based on his pattern of this behavior, he has no credibility what so ever.

Sooo done with your nonsense Richard. Find another person to pick on, and falsely accuse already. Have you no ethics? Good Grief!

I might not agree with him at times. Richard is civil and isn't name calling. He is posting his theories. I didn't think you were rude.

 

[Sarah J. Scott]

I just want to clarify something with EVERYONE. When Richard refers to the Single Perp, who has used several names, and dates of birth, and used female or male, he's trying to refer to ME.


I think your
Loosing your *advertiser censored*! Perhaps a guilty conscious?? He’s never directly said your name! Get over yourself!

This is how insane this man is.

I had absolutely zilch, zero, nada, nothing what so ever to do with the 3MW crime.

I was at work for a TV station working an overnight shift the night the crime happened......100-miles away from Springfield. Period!

I used to live in Springfield, a few miles from the Delmar house........"When I was in Grade School".

But because Richard doesn't like me, as he has done to so many others, he's implying that I had something to do with this crime.......when that couldn't be further from the truth.

Give it a rest already Sherlock Homes......You couldn't be more incorrect if you tried.

You need your head examined. How many people have you accused of being part of the 3MW crime, just because they disagreed with you?

Anyone who want's confirmation of his behavior, just needs to go back and read his posts over the years, and you'll see just how many times he's accused innocent people of involvement in the 3MW crime, just because they've ticked him off by not agreeing with him, or arguing with him.

And with that, I'm not addressing anything further regarding his insane false insinuations. Based on his pattern of this behavior, he has no credibility what so ever.

Sooo done with your nonsense Richard. Find another person to pick on, and falsely accuse already. Have you no ethics? Good Grief!

 

[Missouri Mule]

Please expand on what you are saying. Are you referring to yourself or someone else?

I have no clue who you are.

Just need some clarity, please.

 

[asyousay]

Some of these posts are absolutely pathetic. By the sounds sounds of it you are all elderly and yet are behaving like children and you are deliberately derailing this thread.

for what purpose exactly?

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

allow me to paint a picture:

SG is dating JCW.......
MC and DR and JR do a two-bit loser grave crime no one cares about really.... it does show some sociopathic tendencies as other forumm members stated but that's it....
DR is dating JCW's daughter
JCW daughter: SG is like a bodyguard to me
RS (Tuna): I rode around in a van to do drug drops with SG
JR robs houses, a Subway, and also partying with Suzie along with DR and MC
MC and DR buy drugs from SG
SG rumored in bike gang with MC's ex gf AH's dad
SG, REW, MGR (GJ3) all incahoots robbing houses and selling drugs
SG busted for having a gun on him in a strip club...
REW arrested for carjacking in Dec. 92 and cops find him hiding with a gun in a trailer.......
MGR changes his name and moves to nebraska (why?)
JR uses an alias in IL (why?)
SG reveals to cops unreleased info that is prime to the abductions...proves he has intimate knowledge (did he mention an evidence item in the house?)
SG, REW, MGR are brought to a GJ....only people ever. RS, DR, MC, JR, JCW, JW all speak at GJ............

See where im going with this? Are we all going to keep playing games and discussing janelle or are we going to finally start thinking with logic?...sorry to be rude but.......lol it's all right there

Bump....

Monkey and Mule have been fighting forever...

If you think cops are wrong because SG didn’t produce bodies then I don’t know if youll ever solve this because common sense says they have access to more info than we do from cursory newspaper articles..

@asyousay what do you think of my above post.. do you think these players could be involved.....? @Talullah ?

 

[Missouri Mule]

Some of these posts are absolutely pathetic. By the sounds sounds of it you are all elderly and yet are behaving like children and you are deliberately derailing this thread.

for what purpose exactly?

I am elderly but I was not derailing anything. I have followed the case for most of the 27 years. I know a “thing or two.”

I named no one. If one thinks about this logically, it makes little sense to assume a “perfect” crime could be committed by a group of drunks or spaced out kids. We are given no motive.

The police have said that the unnamed perp whereabouts were unknown between the hours of 9 PM until 6 AM.

I submit the odds of a group of criminals would keep perfect silence for 27 years. Offhand I can’t think of any group of conspirators who would not have had one or more “roll” on the others. Criminals typically don’t have a one off crime and then go on to live otherwise exemplary lives.

I suppose a cop might commit a perfect crime. After all, we can be certain the crime was staged and evidently no useable DNA was found. I could believe a cop or cops might be able to do this but where is the evidence for that scenario?

What I have done is lay out the case for the single male predator who very potentially struck up some kind of conversation with a young vulnerable young lady and believed he could achieve a goal common to young males of that age group.

There would be no benefit to me “derailing” the discussion. I was in the company of family members some 1,800 miles from Springfield while on vacation.

But even though I was not there that night, I soon developed a strong interest in the case when I returned and this case was consuming Springfield.

In any event, I will take my leave if that is the consensus of most here. I will however provide the information to the Springfield Police Department in the off chance they don’t already have the name of individual’s name.

 

[asyousay]

It was not a perfect crime by any stretch , the police were completely incompetent and that’s what derailed it being solved.

Also teenagers scared they will also be murdered could easily keep quiet.

anybody who looks at Janelle in her graduation photo and tells me she wasn’t not on something I will laugh at them.

If there is a drugs angle she could definitely of known local dealers going by her walking dead appearance.

Cops could of been involved in a cover up or it could be as simple as they was completely out of their element and didn’t know their head from their feet.

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

It was not a perfect crime by any stretch , the police were completely incompetent and that’s what derailed it being solved.

Also teenagers scared they will also be murdered could easily keep quiet.

anybody who looks at Janelle in her graduation photo and tells me she wasn’t not on something I will laugh at them.

If there is a drugs angle she could definitely of known local dealers going by her walking dead appearance.

Cops could of been involved in a cover up or it could be as simple as they was completely out of their element and didn’t know their head from their feet.

Janelle being on “something” or even drunk looking or whatever in a picture makes her guilty of a triple disappearance and murder? Hmmmm ok

....and it’ll never be solved on forums because all u guys do is make crazy assumptions from selective media... you’d make horrible detectives

 

[Nadal]

Some of these posts are absolutely pathetic. By the sounds sounds of it you are all elderly and yet are behaving like children and you are deliberately derailing this thread.

for what purpose exactly?

I've been following these threads for a while (since whenever i posted in a now closed thread) and it's the most toxic discussion i've seen on this site which is saying a lot. So many of you seem to have been doing this for decades and you all have egos and personal reputation wrapped up with your opinions on this case so you all hate each other and try your best to figure out ways to attack each other within the rules of this site, some of you fail but then come back immediately under new accounts and the person you are attacking doesn't post unless they are responding to your attacks.

It's really, really gross from all angles. I think this is one of the best examples of the worst of "internet sleuths", most of you don't care you probably did originally but the internet personalities are now more important to you and all you care about is being "right" which is something we'll probably never find out so it's a neverending cycle that most of you are content with.

Reading the last two threads on this case you'd barely remember the victims names but we know the posters here inside out and know more about the graverobbers than the detectives investigating them at the time. Well done.

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

I've been following these threads for a while (since whenever i posted in a now closed thread) and it's the most toxic discussion i've seen on this site which is saying a lot. So many of you seem to have been doing this for decades and you all have egos and personal reputation wrapped up with your opinions on this case so you all hate each other and try your best to figure out ways to attack each other within the rules of this site, some of you fail but then come back immediately under new accounts and the person you are attacking doesn't post unless they are responding to your attacks.

It's really, really gross from all angles. I think this is one of the best examples of the worst of "internet sleuths", most of you don't care you probably did originally but the internet personalities are now more important to you and all you care about is being "right" which is something we'll probably never find out so it's a neverending cycle that most of you are content with.

Reading the last two threads on this case you'd barely remember the victims names but we know the posters here inside out and know more about the graverobbers than the detectives investigating them at the time. Well done.

Are we trying to solve a crime or appease every single person and treat asinine statements like they are worthy of respect ? And no we don’t know much about the graverobbers....just their script and what they claim happen that doesnt align with others’ POV or their very own statements. Or cops word. Also when graverobbers call people names (including the victims names) theyre all the sudden ok?? Got it

We know the victims names and don’t need to recite them and pledge to them every two posts and get kid gloves out to make sure your feefers aren’t hurt..ur equally disgusting by monkey wrenching with holier than thou posts

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

What was Garrison’s alibi that night?
Can anyone answer that............?

 

[Nadal]

Are we trying to solve a crime or appease every single person and treat asinine statements like they are worthy of respect ? And no we don’t know much about the graverobbers....just their script and what they claim happen that doesnt align with others’ POV or their very own statements. Or cops word. Also when graverobbers call people names (including the victims names) theyre all the sudden ok?? Got it

You aren't trying to solve a crime, you've already solved a crime in your mind and you won't let anyone deviate from your solution.

I'm not here to defend the graverobbers my post was directed to both sides.

I do agree with you that dude is an a-hole for saying that about the victims and i'd never speak to or take him seriously knowing he's a member here, but that's completely irrelevant to the crime (he could just be a p-o-s) and it's been explored a nauseating amount here.

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

You aren't trying to solve a crime, you've already solved a crime in your mind and you won't let anyone deviate from your solution.

I'm not here to defend the graverobbers my post was directed to both sides.

I do agree with you that dude is an a-hole for saying that about the victims and i'd never speak to or take him seriously knowing he's a member here, but that's completely irrelevant to the crime (he could just be a p-o-s) and it's been explored a nauseating amount here.

Did you see my post about “allow me to paint a picture” where I connected all the players to the women...........?

why don’t you challenge me on it then instead of ad nauesum cursory newspaper clippings we’ve all read 500 times...

“Won’t allow to deviate” is different from “calling someone out on wrong facts and putting holes in their pet theory”....

 

[Sarah J. Scott]

I am elderly but I was not derailing anything. I have followed the case for most of the 27 years. I know a “thing or two.”

I named no one. If one thinks about this logically, it makes little sense to assume a “perfect” crime could be committed by a group of drunks or spaced out kids. We are given no motive.

The police have said that the unnamed perp whereabouts were unknown between the hours of 9 PM until 6 AM.

I submit the odds of a group of criminals would keep perfect silence for 27 years. Offhand I can’t think of any group of conspirators who would not have had one or more “roll” on the others. Criminals typically don’t have a one off crime and then go on to live otherwise exemplary lives.

I suppose a cop might commit a perfect crime. After all, we can be certain the crime was staged and evidently no useable DNA was found. I could believe a cop or cops might be able to do this but where is the evidence for that scenario?

What I have done is lay out the case for the single male predator who very potentially struck up some kind of conversation with a young vulnerable young lady and believed he could achieve a goal common to young males of that age group.

There would be no benefit to me “derailing” the discussion. I was in the company of family members some 1,800 miles from Springfield while on vacation.

But even though I was not there that night, I soon developed a strong interest in the case when I returned and this case was consuming Springfield.

In any event, I will take my leave if that is the consensus of most here. I will however provide the information to the Springfield Police Department in the off chance they don’t already have the name of individual’s name.

I didn’t “like” the post because of what you said at the end of it, I like what you have to say and I wouldn’t like it if you left the discussion.

 

[Nadal]

Did you see my post about “allow me to paint a picture” where I connected all the players to the women...........?

why don’t you challenge me on it then instead of ad nauesum cursory newspaper clippings we’ve all read 500 times...

“Won’t allow to deviate” is different from “calling someone out on wrong facts and putting holes in their pet theory”....

Why do you bother posting here if you've cracked the case? You know your posts are directed towards two people and all the three of you do is argue in circles. You don't trust anything they say so why do you even bother?

You don't allow people to deviate because whenever the conversation strays into something else you are there on one of your many accounts with the perfect baiting comment, if people ignore you, you repeat yourself until you get attention i'll have no problem coming up with examples of this if you want? There's no way you can squeeze anything more out of the graverobbers, none of us know what happened so it would be nice to be allowed to look into something else for once. A non moderator/admin controlling the conversation this much is really frustrating especially when they've been banned at least once, probably twice and has just created new account(s) to carry on the exact same thing.

 

[asyousay]

Janelle being on “something” or even drunk looking or whatever in a picture makes her guilty of a triple disappearance and murder? Hmmmm ok

....and it’ll never be solved on forums because all u guys do is make crazy assumptions from selective media... you’d make horrible detectives

no what makes her involved is the fact she was the last know people to see them. Then the first one at the crime scene which she conveniently ruined by her own admission. Then she couldn’t keep her story straight either. Then she tried to distance herself from Suzie on National tv by not even having the dignity to refer to her friend by her given name because she didn’t want to be connected with her. So many posters bang on about a drugs connection but oddly try and downplay it with Janelle could have a connection as well. How utterly convenient that some posters don’t like her mentioned.


IMO

 

[Nadal]

I didn’t “like” the post because of what you said at the end of it, I like what you have to say and I wouldn’t like it if you left the discussion.

None of these people would like the person they constantly argue with to stop posting. If Mike and his wife started posting elsewhere we'd see little of ArkansasTimeTraveller or whatever he's calling himself now, and if him or people like him stop posting we'll not see Mike and his wife. It's not about the case anymore it's about internet personalities.

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

no what makes her involved is the fact she was the last know people to see them. Then the first one at the crime scene which she conveniently ruined by her own admission. Then she couldn’t keep her story straight either. Then she tried to distance herself from Suzie on National tv by not even having the dignity to refer to her friend by her given name because she didn’t want to be connected with her. So many posters bang on about a drugs connection but oddly try and downplay it with Janelle could have a connection as well. How utterly convenient that some posters don’t like her mentioned.


IMO

Again her story was straight. Reporting was inaccurate. They even say this in NL articles...

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

no what makes her involved is the fact she was the last know people to see them. Then the first one at the crime scene which she conveniently ruined by her own admission. Then she couldn’t keep her story straight either. Then she tried to distance herself from Suzie on National tv by not even having the dignity to refer to her friend by her given name because she didn’t want to be connected with her. So many posters bang on about a drugs connection but oddly try and downplay it with Janelle could have a connection as well. How utterly convenient that some posters don’t like her mentioned.


IMO

Again her story was straight. Reporting was inaccurate. They even say this in NL articles...

 

[Nadal]

We were breaking new ground with the SG hotel incidient and linking the players.....then here you are monkey wrenching with holier than thou crap

I’m interested in solving a case with likeminded ppl like bookkeeper and jenNJ and others who have a good obvious grasp.....

Mike, his wife, Cherrymeg, Scooby4u, Missouri Mule, all seem to have a similar amount of knowledge as you. Why aren't you interested in solving the case with them? Is it because they don't agree with you? Or...