Found Deceased MO - Toni Anderson, 20, North Kansas City, 15 Jan 2017 #1

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That's interesting. I agree about the dashcam footage. Weird that they don't want to release that, for whatever reason. So - her card was declined one time..does this mean the the "2nd attempt" went through? I went to the gas station the other day and I usually have to enter in my zip code at most gas stations when pumping gas, this one was asking for my pin..I entered it my zip about 3-4 times until I realized that it was my pin # they were asking me for. I felt very smart :p

idk 'attempts' to me means unsuccessful. I'm a little wary to take anything I read as fact now though. If she didn't manage to get any gas what can you do 'low' on gas, 10-15 miles? Maybe they should extend the drone search to 15 miles around that gas station.
 
The more intriguing thing for me is the text about being pulled over. Was she referring to the 4:20 am encounter or was there a second one? It seems stale to say you were 'just' pulled over 20 minutes after you were pulled over. And there is that word "again." May not be anything. But it is pretty clear she had an agenda that night. There was a purpose to what she was doing and to her travel and route and location. We just don't know it. Being young and attractive and alone in Kansas City at 4:30 am is not where I would want my daughter or GF or SO to be. I would assume from her work experience she had pepper spray or other means of defense at the ready. Still much to learn here.
 
general comment, directed at nobody in particular - there is a reason facebook and twitter rumors arent allowed on here. as usual there is a ton of incorrect information and speculation being repeated as fact out there.

Being someone who has posted regarding a twitter account. I'd like to note a few things that we have factually learned from the twitter account that we possibly could not have known from anywhere else.

Forget about the guy spouting off about what he knows and sources, which I agree are rumors and get labeled as such.

We factually have seen on twitter timeline the person missing tweeting out an image of a google search yielding the link "how to disappear completely" that has 10 steps as to what you should do if that is your goal.

We factually have a boyfriend that is obsessed about money and tweeted about discussing "money schemes" with his girlfriend.


The second is more vague and so I don't take it as seriously. But the first, I cannot simply unsee. I have seen a number of individuals who are alarmed by the bf's tweet more than toni's tweet about the wikihow. I find her tweet more alarming as this situation is looking alot like what one might do... to disappear.

Now we have a boyfriend who has removed his twitter account and yielded control of a acct to the mother of toni.


Whether we like it or not, social media is a part of many people's lives these days and you can see how things that are so blatantly obvious about their lives by one stroll down a twitter timeline is being reported by legit media outlets as false. I'll not go into the details about that, but I dare say I've seen more incorrect information from the media than from the twitter timeline of toni and her bf.

Suppose in her search history the police had found that wikihow about how to disappear? Or a printed out version on her desk?

Or what if they found her journal/diary and it noted she read a link about how to disappear?

Would they discard that clue?

I think seeing with my own eyes on toni's timeline that she posted about a website that tells you how to disappear completely is something I'd trust more than the police or media at this point. I've seen more than a few reasons to not trust the accuracy of their information.


Lastly on the topic of why facebook and twitter isn't allowed. It's not because of rumors from my understanding, but rather privacy. Here is the rules :

Links may be used to direct members to posts made by a victim or a suspect.
Copying and pasting, or taking screen caps, directly from these pages is not allowed.
**Paraphrasing is okay.**
Posts by friends and visitors are off limits.
Do not link to an individual’s (victim or suspect) social media page if you are not 100% certain it belongs to the correct individual.
If a social media page is set to private and you get in the back way, you may not post what you find. Private means private!

Nothing is meant to deter rumors.

This is not meant to create an argument, but rather to explain that I think that ignoring social media in this day and age is similar to discarding someone's diary/journal as that is very similar to how it's used by many folks nowadays.

In chicago there was a group of kids torturing a disabled person on facebook live.

Social media discoveries are something we should weight appropriately given the full context of evidence, but not disregard. I'd surely hope the police didn't just choose to not discuss anything they saw on social media. God almighty, I hope they actually scour it as many of us have.

For example, might someone say that Toni's post about steps to disappear be seen as a subtle cry for help? People don't try to disappear unless there is some kind of drastic reason. Could it have been a joke? possibly. But given the context of what we know so far, I simply see it as something to note as **not crazy** and just as valuable as anything we have heard from police -- which has been sketchy at best.
 
I actually see the honest accident as somewhat probable right now, all things considered, given the weather conditions and there potentially being ice on the roads.


Which is a great example as to why direction she was last heading and any information about where she was actually going would be so important. Given that we have heard sketchy information from friends/coworkers that doesn't make sense with where she physically was, has me worried about people knowing more than they are letting on because of some illegal activity.

In regards to her maybe going into the river, it looks like there are only a few places where that'd be even possible. So knowing if her destination was say the casino that would narrow down where to look drastically.
 
Sanchez, BF, overall response in earlier press interview is I don't know what to think. Then he says he is comforted by the media.



Nothing about her or where she could be. Maybe press left that out during edits.
 
I believe it stopped working or was disabled.

So we can says it's improbable there was a car accident since it didn't record.

Wouldn't only someone who 1 knows it's there or 2 May themselves have on check this and disable it? I highly doubt it failed.
 
The more intriguing thing for me is the text about being pulled over. Was she referring to the 4:20 am encounter or was there a second one? It seems stale to say you were 'just' pulled over 20 minutes after you were pulled over. And there is that word "again." May not be anything. But it is pretty clear she had an agenda that night. There was a purpose to what she was doing and to her travel and route and location. We just don't know it. Being young and attractive and alone in Kansas City at 4:30 am is not where I would want my daughter or GF or SO to be. I would assume from her work experience she had pepper spray or other means of defense at the ready. Still much to learn here.

And the text about being pulled over again was to a friend who was visiting Las Vegas at the time.
 
Another update to the timeline from Josh Helmuth

Josh Helmuth ‏@Jhelmuth 9m9 minutes ago
Timeline of Toni Andersons last known events so far, w/small update at end. #BringToniHome @Hy_Tekk
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https://twitter.com/Jhelmuth


Interesting wording. BF or not?
 
He puts on his tweet -- "Small update at the end"

I think it's kind of a bombshell.
 
That other missing guy Mark Batoik sp? Is in the bassnectar scene too

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Has anyone found information about the drone search, in terms of what that route was?

You'd want to be flying the drone where you think she was heading next, not where she has been, right?

Where are points where she might actually drive close to the river? I see route 9 going parallel to it west of the casino and then I see 635 bridge and 79 bridge to the west. But I'd think you'd see easily see damage to the bridge if a car went off one of those bridges. Questionable if a car would make it off that bridge if it slid on ice.

Also, upon further observation, even the route 9 location doesn't seem a good place to have a car go into the river via an ice skid. There is train tracks between the road and the river. Also along that stretch there is a row of trees. Not impossible that a car could get through there, but seems like the probability is greater that you'd hit a tree or be redirected via the train tracks. Not impossible as there are some sizable gaps between trees along the road. But just seems lower probability after look at it. I was thinking it was maybe one of those things where the road was much closer to the river and maybe an embankment a car might even tumble down.
 
I just had a thought. What if the dashcam footage shows Toni acting under the influence? The cop let her drive off for whatever reason.

That would explain the cops saying no one pulled her over initially. It would also explain them not releasing any footage of her.

Its not unheard of for the police to hold back damaging footage as long as legally possible.

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Or she wasn't alone in the car.
 
From the image on helmuth's twitter people seem to be gathering for the search near 39 & armour rd by dennys/arbys there. So a little southeast of where she was last seen.
 
I saw on Toni's Facebook that, before she went missing, she posting a missing poster of him.

At the time I found it odd, here is missing and just a few days ago she was concerned enough to post that he was missing.

From her twitter, it appeared that she enjoyed traveling and did so often, and it was often related to musical events as she wrote articles about them I believe. So maybe not so crazy that she'd actually know him.

Another longshot, but worth noting a connection isn't impossible.
 
They've searched the area around the river, right ? That's where my truck was found after it was stolen. There'd have to be more than one person involved since her car's gone.
 
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