MS - 14-year old shoots parents; kills mother - Mar. 19, 2024

[azure]

I see how they have her dressed and groomed to look much younger than she actually is.

That's an absolutely bizarre outfit to have her wear unless she was actually coming from a parochial school.

 

[Quiet Time]

Brandon teenage girl Carly Madison Gregg, accused of murdering her mother and attempting to kill her stepfather at the family's home in March, rejected the prosecutor's plea deal of 40 years on Tuesday. Gregg could now face up to two life sentences.

The Tuesday court hearing began with Gregg, 15, who was dressed in a navy-blue plaid schoolgirl uniform, standing before Circuit Court Judge Dewey Arthur inside the Rankin County Courthouse.

Published Aug. 27, 2024

Teen murder suspect Carly Madison Gregg rejects 40-year sentence. See what she could face

Carly Gregg, accused of murdering her mom and attempting to kill her stepfather, rejected a 40-year sentence. Gregg faces up to two life sentences.

www.clarionledger.com

Hmmm, I wonder if they think she'll do better, as far as sentencing goes, if she has a jury trial.

Was she that angry before she started taking the anti-depressants?

jmo

 

[SMK777]

Sorry long post but this is a tragedy.

This 14 year old child was apparently taking a powerful antidepressant medication ESCITALOPRAM, which is not recommended for treatment of Major Depressive Disorder in children under 12 years.

In my view, the body & brain of a 14 year old is really not much different from that of a 12 year old. Every person is different.

I hope this medication had been prescribed after careful assessment by a psychiatrist experienced in adolescent mental health.

It is known to be associated with increased suicidal ideation, increased aggression/anger/violence and acting on aggressive impulses, particularly when medication is started or the dosage changed.

If you want to see the evidence of please read on. I am a retired medical practitioner and my opinion is backed up with relevant links below. I’ve picked out the points that I feel may be pertinent to this case.

14-year-old girl accused of murdering mother showed dead body to friend, investigator says

A 14-year-old girl from Mississippi accused of killing her mother allegedly invited a friend over her house to see her mother's dead body.

krcrtv.com

1) From the above article

“ Cotton said investigators learned Carly had been on prescription medications, including Lexapro, leading up to the murder. He added Carley allegedly changed the medication she was taking about a week before the shootings”

2) Next is this

These highlights do not include all the information needed to use LEXAPRO safely and effectively. See full prescribing information for LEXAPRO . Lexapro ®

“ Increased risk of suicidal thoughts or actions. Lexapro and other antidepressant medicines increase the risk of suicidal thoughts and actions in people 24 years of age and younger, especially within the first few months of treatment or when the dose is changed.”

“ Call your healthcare provider right away to report new or sudden changes in mood, behavior, thoughts, or feelings or if you or your child develop suicidal thoughts or actions.

• attempts to commit suicide
• acting aggressive, being angry or violent
• acting on dangerous impulses
• other unusual changes in behavior or mood”

It is not known if Lexapro is safe and effective for use in children under 12 years of age with MDD ( Major Depressive Order)

3) Next this

Escitalopram in Adolescent Major Depression - PMC

Escitalopram is the purified functional isomer contained in citalopram. Escitalopram is now prescribed in 26 countries. In the United States, the only US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved selective serotonin reuptake inhibiter (SSRI) for ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Choosing a medication for an adolescent is a complex decision.

MOO

I don’t like the medication information I’m seeing. It makes me feel it caused her to act out by breaking down her ability to restrain herself. I can’t help feeling that the medication played a role and was a big factor in the commission of the crime. She is after all a child.

 

[arielilane]

@LawCrimeNetwork

Carly Gregg, 14, is accused of murdering her mother, Ashley Smylie, by shooting her three times and wounding her stepfather last March. Security cameras at the home in Rankin County, Mississippi recorded parts of the incident. Law&Crime's Angenette Levy @angnette5 reports.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831399328474354051

 

[arielilane]

RANKIN COUNTY, Miss. (WLBT) - A Rankin County teenager accused of killing her mother and shooting her stepfather is likely changing her defense to insanity.

...

Rankin Co. teen accused of killing mother to plead insanity

Attorneys for Gregg said a switch of medications before the shooting, as well as other mental issues, may have led to her behavior.

www.wlbt.com

Aug. 29, 2024


A jury trial has been set for September 16.

 

[fred&edna]

I wonder if CG's legal team will continue to present her in the little-school-girl modest attire throughout trial? While I fully understand why defense attorneys often have their clients dress and modify hair styles, etc. to portray a more "innocent" look... I really, really don't like it. jmo

 

[SMK777]

I wonder if CG's legal team will continue to present her in the little-school-girl modest attire throughout trial? While I fully understand why defense attorneys often have their clients dress and modify hair styles, etc. to portray a more "innocent" look... I really, really don't like it. jmo

I thought this was the way she normally looked. Guess that was the goal….

 

[Bethan]

I wonder if CG's legal team will continue to present her in the little-school-girl modest attire throughout trial? While I fully understand why defense attorneys often have their clients dress and modify hair styles, etc. to portray a more "innocent" look... I really, really don't like it. jmo

At 15 yrs she is however, only a child.

 

[SMK777]

At 15 yrs she is however, only a child.

True.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

She's a child.
But school shooters this age are being charged "as adults."

I wonder why she was prescribed Escitalopram, why there was a medication change a week prior -although some preteens and teens really need medications -- and most of all, how she was able to access a gun while undergoing mental health treatment?

If I were on the jury, there are so many factors I'd want to know. Besides the above -- what could a motive have been? What did she say during questioning afterwards? What did she say to other relatives afterwards, if she spoke to any? What else did she tell the friend she invited over?

 

[arielilane]

#CarlyGregg's Defense claims the teen had switched medication and blames mental health factors for the shooting.#CourtTV

Catch up on the FACTS here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1833534567095144700

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1833532020447928687

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1833576172434899412

 

[SMK777]

She sure does look like a kid.

 

[iamshadow21]

She sure does look like a kid.

So did Daphne Abdela. Similar facial structure.

 

[SMK777]

So did Daphne Abdela. Similar facial structure.

True!

 

[fred&edna]

I thought this was the way she normally looked. Guess that was the goal….

There's a photo of Carly here... smiling young teen with longer and lighter hair. I don't know when the photo was taken but her appearance is quite different. jmo

Girl, 14, charged with shooting dead mom 'talked about killing her'

Carly Madison Gregg was charged with murder after Heath Smylie, 38, came home in Jackson, Mississippi, about to find his schoolteacher wife Ashley Smylie, 40, dead and Gregg with a pistol.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[SMK777]

There's a photo of Carly here... smiling young teen with longer and lighter hair. I don't know when the photo was taken but her appearance is quite different. jmo

Girl, 14, charged with shooting dead mom 'talked about killing her'

Carly Madison Gregg was charged with murder after Heath Smylie, 38, came home in Jackson, Mississippi, about to find his schoolteacher wife Ashley Smylie, 40, dead and Gregg with a pistol.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yes, in that picture she looks older.

 

[stonedgnome]

Sorry long post but this is a tragedy.

This 14 year old child was apparently taking a powerful antidepressant medication ESCITALOPRAM, which is not recommended for treatment of Major Depressive Disorder in children under 12 years.

In my view, the body & brain of a 14 year old is really not much different from that of a 12 year old. Every person is different.

I hope this medication had been prescribed after careful assessment by a psychiatrist experienced in adolescent mental health.

It is known to be associated with increased suicidal ideation, increased aggression/anger/violence and acting on aggressive impulses, particularly when medication is started or the dosage changed.

If you want to see the evidence of please read on. I am a retired medical practitioner and my opinion is backed up with relevant links below. I’ve picked out the points that I feel may be pertinent to this case.

14-year-old girl accused of murdering mother showed dead body to friend, investigator says

A 14-year-old girl from Mississippi accused of killing her mother allegedly invited a friend over her house to see her mother's dead body.

krcrtv.com

1) From the above article

“ Cotton said investigators learned Carly had been on prescription medications, including Lexapro, leading up to the murder. He added Carley allegedly changed the medication she was taking about a week before the shootings”

2) Next is this

These highlights do not include all the information needed to use LEXAPRO safely and effectively. See full prescribing information for LEXAPRO . Lexapro ®

“ Increased risk of suicidal thoughts or actions. Lexapro and other antidepressant medicines increase the risk of suicidal thoughts and actions in people 24 years of age and younger, especially within the first few months of treatment or when the dose is changed.”

“ Call your healthcare provider right away to report new or sudden changes in mood, behavior, thoughts, or feelings or if you or your child develop suicidal thoughts or actions.

• attempts to commit suicide
• acting aggressive, being angry or violent
• acting on dangerous impulses
• other unusual changes in behavior or mood”

It is not known if Lexapro is safe and effective for use in children under 12 years of age with MDD ( Major Depressive Order)

3) Next this

Escitalopram in Adolescent Major Depression - PMC

Escitalopram is the purified functional isomer contained in citalopram. Escitalopram is now prescribed in 26 countries. In the United States, the only US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved selective serotonin reuptake inhibiter (SSRI) for ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Choosing a medication for an adolescent is a complex decision.

MOO

When I was 14/15, I was put on Prozac. It seriously messed me up. I was already struggling and it made me have a mental breakdown. Nothing as serious as this crime, but it makes sense to me that the medication could do this. I am not excusing her behavior, but I do hope that she receives proper mental health treatment.

To add: I am now almost 30 and I have been on many different antidepressants since I was 14/15. Being on the correct medication for you is a game changer.

Another add: I do however not understand the degree of anger it would take to murder/attempt to murder your parents. Personally, all of my destructive urges were taken out on myself, not my family. JMO

 

[fred&edna]

I wonder what her previous medication might have been (before being changed to Lexapro)? I wonder why her medication had changed. What kind of effects occur when you are taking an SSRI while also vaping?

Defense attorneys demurred when pressed on specifics about their planned defense, but did tell the judge that they would not be pursuing involuntary intoxication. At a previous hearing, Gregg’s attorneys had noted that she had changed antidepressant medications in the weeks before the murder and implied it had impacted her behavior.

Other drugs may become an issue at trial. Though the defense tried to suppress a urine drug test that was done at the Rankin Youth Detention Center immediately after Gregg’s arrest, the judge only gave her team a partial victory. The test, which revealed cannabinoids (marijuana) in Gregg’s system, will only be admitted as part of the prosecution’s rebuttal case if Gregg pursues an insanity defense.

'No exceptions': Discovery violations leave Carly Gregg's defense in limbo

At least one defense witness will not be allowed to testify at Carly Gregg's trial after the judge found 'willful discovery violations.'

www.courttv.com