MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #1

[cady]

I just finished watching the funeral service online. I was left with one big question. From the pictures I've seen, she had many friends of different ethnic make-up then her own. In the audience, I didn't see one person who wasn't Caucasian. Would the perps want to stay away from the funeral, or would the be drawn to it?

That's what I was watching for. I saw one African American couple as everyone was exiting. It may have been a private funeral, by invitation. If not, It seems strange that none of her many AA friends were in attendance. JMO

 

[ZOOL]

After following mostly the information listed at websleuths, I strayed out into the world wide web. What I found has left me somewhat speechless. After doing my own research, it looks like the male gas station clerk posted pretty intimate details to his FB page which indicated the manner of death, before it was publically available. I also discovered gang connections that have made me view this case in an entirely different way. I also dug up some information that suggest her vehicle had the keys in the ignition, the gears in park, and furthermore, the emergency break engaged! I'm going to go digest this information, but after conducting my own research, I have a few new perspectives on this case and you should too!

Amen! I am seeking WS opinion on this matter as we post...

 

[leah]

After following mostly the information listed at websleuths, I strayed out into the world wide web. What I found has left me somewhat speechless. After doing my own research, it looks like the male gas station clerk posted pretty intimate details to his FB page which indicated the manner of death, before it was publically available. I also discovered gang connections that have made me view this case in an entirely different way. I also dug up some information that suggest her vehicle had the keys in the ignition, the gears in park, and furthermore, the emergency break engaged! I'm going to go digest this information, but after conducting my own research, I have a few new perspectives on this case and you should too!

I don't much trust the male gas station clerk. Could you please explain the car situation, to someone that only knows how to drive, and nothing more? That she parked it there, hence the gear in park, and emergency break on? I would love to know what the heck went on at that party. Jessica went to the party, and then this tragedy happened? Something is missing, and I also have been reading, and am shocked by some of the info.

 

[SyraKelly]

I am just going to throw this out there.
That gas station is the primary focus of what this crime is all about.
Keep an eye out for it to shut down.
ALL JMO

 

[bessie]

The M&M store manager has been quoted and referenced by the MSM as Ali Fadhel.

He has also been named as Ali Alsanai by the Jackson Clarion Ledger http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/12/10/authorities-jessica-chambers-last-hours/20196555/.

Are Fadhel and Alsanai one and the same?

Finally, if they are the same person, then is Ali Alsanai's Face Book posting subject to Websleuths discussion?

No. He is neither a victim, nor a suspect.

Thanks for the question.


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[CHERIE.T]

This is a view of the crime scene and a green, steel, locked gate.

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This is the opposite side of Herron Dr with a similar, locked gate

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Does anyone know who owns these properties?

Interesting.... could they be entrances to state owned parks?

 

[leah]

I just finished watching the funeral service online. I was left with one big question. From the pictures I've seen, she had many friends of different ethnic make-up then her own. In the audience, I didn't see one person who wasn't Caucasian. Would the perps want to stay away from the funeral, or would the be drawn to it?

Or, maybe her parents didn't approve of Jessica's friends who were a different ethnic make-up?

 

[CHERIE.T]

Yes, I did watch that video. Said it was close to where they found her/car.

Exactly, thanks PeterThomasFan.

 

[SeeAlice]

Two entirely different thoughts.

First - supposedly she had gone out wearing pajama pants and a hoodie? If she was planning to go to a party or to meet someone her family wouldn't have approved of, she could have been wearing other clothes underneath. I'd like to know what (if anything) she was wearing when she was found.

Second - I avoid pumping gas, but in the past when I've done it, there have been occasions when I've gotten gas on my hands. If she did, she could have wiped her hands on her pants - or she could even have splashed gas on her clothes. If she smoked, I could envision a scenario where she was driving down the road, tried to light a cigarette, perhaps dropped it or the lighter - her clothes catch fire, she panics and loses control of the car and runs off the road. Hits her head and is stunned or knocked out. By the time she comes to, a small fire has become a big fire, and she's breathing in smoke and flames...

Some years ago, about a quarter mile from my house, a car had some sort of mechanical failure (I don't remember the details). Driver pulled over to the side of the road and got out, but the car ended up totally engulfed in flame, with the flames nearly reaching the roadside power lines. No idea whether oil/gas tank ruptured, but it was definitely a case of a huge fire starting without any outside accelerant being applied. So it can happen.

I know of quite a few cases of automobiles catching fire for purely mechanical reasons as well. Also, a lit cigar left burning in an ashtray while the owner went into a store. (No, I don't think she left a cigar burning.)

 

[epiphany]

That's what I was watching for. I saw one African American couple as everyone was exiting. It may have been a private funeral, by invitation. If not, It seems strange that none of her many AA friends were in attendance. JMO

It appeared that all the pews on the right side of where the service was held were not viewable on camera...

 

[SeeAlice]

Or, maybe her parents didn't approve of Jessica's friends who were a different ethnic make-up?

Or afraid Dad will accuse them next?

 

[CHERIE.T]

Two entirely different thoughts.

First - supposedly she had gone out wearing pajama pants and a hoodie? If she was planning to go to a party or to meet someone her family wouldn't have approved of, she could have been wearing other clothes underneath. I'd like to know what (if anything) she was wearing when she was found.

Second - I avoid pumping gas, but in the past when I've done it, there have been occasions when I've gotten gas on my hands. If she did, she could have wiped her hands on her pants - or she could even have splashed gas on her clothes. If she smoked, I could envision a scenario where she was driving down the road, tried to light a cigarette, perhaps dropped it or the lighter - her clothes catch fire, she panics and loses control of the car and runs off the road. Hits her head and is stunned or knocked out. By the time she comes to, a small fire has become a big fire, and she's breathing in smoke and flames...

Some years ago, about a quarter mile from my house, a car had some sort of mechanical failure (I don't remember the details). Driver pulled over to the side of the road and got out, but the car ended up totally engulfed in flame, with the flames nearly reaching the roadside power lines. No idea whether oil/gas tank ruptured, but it was definitely a case of a huge fire starting without any outside accelerant being applied. So it can happen.

I'm glad you said that becauseI thought the same thing...it APPEARED she was wearing pj pants. Imoo to drive to get gas I guess that's ok, but a teen going to a party....do they still wear pjs out? I thought that was a 90s thing. imo and just wondering aloud.

 

[CHERIE.T]

I am just going to throw this out there.
That gas station is the primary focus of what this crime is all about.
Keep an eye out for it to shut down.
ALL JMO

Yep, .......

 

[SuzDuJour]

I am just going to throw this out there.
That gas station is the primary focus of what this crime is all about.
Keep an eye out for it to shut down.
ALL JMO

I'm more inclined to think the party is more relevant, just because of the 90 minute time frame.

 

[ZOOL]

Interesting.... could they be entrances to state owned parks?

The relevance of property ownership could be enlightening. Either state or federal ownership could open the door to either party assuming control of the investigation. A crime committed on their properties would supersede the authority of Sheriff Dennis Darby and District Attorney John Champion.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Champion said investigators have talked to the person who called 911 and have cleared them from involvement in the crime. Investigators said they talked to Chambers' relatives and "there were no family issues," the prosecutor said.
Champion already has said investigators are treating the case as an arson, and an accelerant was used in the blaze. Three special agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in Atlanta were in Courtland on Friday morning looking for clues at the crime scene.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/11/us/mississippi-girl-burns-to-death/


cbm

 

[cady]

I'm more inclined to think the party is more relevant, just because of the 90 minute time frame.

"party" could mean any sort of gathering JMO

 

[skibaboo]

Jessica Chambers, Teen Burned to Death, Mourned at Funeral

Friends and family members of Jessica Chambers, the Mississippi woman who was set on fire and burned to death this week, gathered at a funeral chapel Saturday to remember a life taken too soon.

Deborah Sanders, the 19-year-old's aunt, said before the service at Wells Funeral in Batesville that the support of the community following the young woman's horrific death has helped comfort the family, but they are desperate to find whoever killed her. Hundreds attended the woman's wake Friday.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jessica-chambers-teen-burned-death-mourned-funeral-n267811

 

[FindHG]

FindHG, I can not explain "the difference in size of the person, the stripes, the gait, and the size of whatever is being filled which looks so different" because I do not see those differences. If you do, try to capture images and post them.

However, in all reality the timestamps fairly speak for themselves.

I trust your judgement on this since you've managed to figure out the time stamps from the various feeds and angles. The video is too poor quality, and LE has checked it out to keep questioning it. Thank you for that. Below some some screen grabs of the where Jessica Chambers and her car were burned:
from here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZKlv6Se24

 

[ZOOL]

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Second - I avoid pumping gas, but in the past when I've done it, there have been occasions when I've gotten gas on my hands. If she did, she could have wiped her hands on her pants - or she could even have splashed gas on her clothes. If she smoked, I could envision a scenario where she was driving down the road, tried to light a cigarette, perhaps dropped it or the lighter - her clothes catch fire, she panics and loses control of the car and runs off the road. Hits her head and is stunned or knocked out. By the time she comes to, a small fire has become a big fire, and she's breathing in smoke and flames...

I've thought about that possibility too but there ought to be tire skid marks somewhere in the Herron Dr asphalt if she lost control of her vehicle. I've also considered something like the tie-rod breaking on the front axel but I would guess that she would have applied her brakes thus leaving skid marks unless....what we are suggesting happened so quickly that she panicked and had no time for common reaction. This panic might happen if there were a sudden flare of fire (e.g. her coat sleeve had received much gas saturation at the station, or the tie-rod broke and she couldn't understand why she had no control of the vehicle, then the interior suddenly engulfed in flames and the airbags ignited...). All of this would be truly horrifying.