MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #10

[LR1]

Not saying its not possible, because people are stupid, but the thought of someone killing a sheriff's dept. employee's teenage daughter with fire because she might be snitching will somehow bring less heat on the person being snitched on makes no sense to me.

 

[FindHG]

Not saying its not possible, because people are stupid, but the thought of someone killing a sheriff's dept. employee's teenage daughter with fire because she might be snitching will somehow bring less heat on the person being snitched on makes no sense to me.

I can easily associate myself with LR1's thoughts on this.

 

[menmo]

I am a "newbie" to this formum but one thing that has struck me is Jessica being paranoid and frightened of her old crowd. They would have been suspicious of her for several reasons. 1) her father's position at the sheriff's office. 2) Jessica had alternative sentencing after her altercations with her mom. Usually in her old circle of friends, they either pay a fine and/or do jail time, then go right back to their previous criminal ways. Jessica was allowed to go into a "halfway house" of sorts then came out, distancesd herself (somewhat) from her old crowd and obtained a job. That looked different to her old friends, and set off their radar that perhaps she could be snitching. Honestly, she probably wasn't.
About Darby running for re-election, it is personally motivated. He can keep his relatives' arrest downplayed and appear as the good guy if/when Jessica's kille is apprehended.

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[nanadee]

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I believe it has been established that the house fire was on Carlisle street, which is north of the FD in Courtland, and Jessica's murder scene was on Herron Road, which is west of the FD in Courtland. So although they are not in opposite directions in the strictest sense, if you were headed toward one fire you would be heading away from the other. I'm still having a hard time accepting that the FD had two fires to handle in such a short time frame. Until I find out more details about the house fire, I am classifying it as "suspicious" since it could have diverted the FD away from being in a position to save Jessica's life.

A location for the first call has never been officially established. When Justin Turner, a member of the Courtland FB was being grilled on twitter he said the location of the first call was not on Herron or Carlisle. He also said "there was a previous scene but I'm not saying there was another fire".

 

[FelicityLemon]

A location for the first call has never been officially established. When Justin Turner, a member of the Courtland FB was being grilled on twitter he said the location of the first call was not on Herron or Carlisle. He also said "there was a previous scene but I'm not saying there was another fire".

Interesting since previous accounts in MSM state they were at a fire, but never any details so this could make sense. Could have been a medical emergency and in that case, that could be considered a private (HIPPA) issue and not to be discussed. It also wouldn't warrant a mention in The Panolian since I've not seen any mention of any other similar instances through viewing several years. We had to call 911 to transport our 90 yo FIL to hospital and not only did Paramedics show up, but the Fire Dept, the Sheriff's Dept... just as a matter of protocol.

 

[New1]

A location for the first call has never been officially established. When Justin Turner, a member of the Courtland FB was being grilled on twitter he said the location of the first call was not on Herron or Carlisle. He also said "there was a previous scene but I'm not saying there was another fire".

I've googled every phrase I could think of regarding a fire that night and found nothing, although some sleuthers have said they found the location of it and one person posted the address of where the previous fire was.

 

[rbarber17]

Interesting since previous accounts in MSM state they were at a fire, but never any details so this could make sense. Could have been a medical emergency and in that case, that could be considered a private (HIPPA) issue and not to be discussed. It also wouldn't warrant a mention in The Panolian since I've not seen any mention of any other similar instances through viewing several years. We had to call 911 to transport our 90 yo FIL to hospital and not only did Paramedics show up, but the Fire Dept, the Sheriff's Dept... just as a matter of protocol.

Hmmmm. If it was for a medical emergency instead of a fire, would that have necessitated some of the first responders being back at the station "cleaning up" afterward? Sounds more like a fire to me.
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[MyBelle]

If I was paranoid or feared someone thought I was "snitching" I wouldn't want to travel alone. If I thought some females "bi#%ches" thought I was snitching.....the only way I would feel comfortable outside my home is if I was in the company of other females or another female who I thought would have my back if something popped off.

It just doesn't seem right to me....JC, alone, went to the one spot that night that might bring her face to face with other locals who may have wanted to harm her....M&M the neighborhood hang out....why would she do that? Especially if she was so paranoid? I have a hard time believing that. JMO

I think JC was either abducted or lured to that spot by someone she thought she could trust.

JMO

 

[rbarber17]

Wow, check this out. All the fires in Courtland for 2006. Seems like an awful lot. Several mobile home fires, even one with a fatality. Sounds like being a member of the VFD is where all the action is in this sleepy little town. Wish there was a list for 2014, or maybe there is, just not on the Internet.

http://www.city-data.com/fire/fire-Courtland-Mississippi.html

If you're having trouble with this link, right click on it, go to "Properties", copy the url and paste it into your browser's address window, then enter. Sorry...

 

[SteveP]

I was talking to a fellow poster yesterday and he/she expressed something that i have also felt for a while now, and that is the strong belief that LE knows and has been and continues to withhold some key detail of Jessica's life, possibly in an effort to protect her reputation, that very possibly played a part in her murder. They are certainly entitled to, of course. I am only speculating, and this is in no way victim-blaming, but perhaps she was or had been involved in some illicit activity like using or selling drugs, or perhaps she was involved in a relationship with a man who is married or has a significant other. Perhaps she was an informant, as some have theorized. Again, this is all speculation, but I cant help but believe there is something, and it certainly could go towards establishing motive in what seems like a senseless crime, and helping develop some suspects, if true. If only we knew. JMO and MOO

 

[S2000CR]

"Cleaning up" might have meant sanitizing, replenishing and sorting medical supplies in that case.

 

[southernyankee]

Y'all: I have thought this on multiple occasions while reading about this case, but MizStery's "backlog of hinkies" comment paired with a post-dinner/somewhat punchy mood I'm in has made me want to share it, so...

You know that recurring sketch from (recent years of) Saturday Night Live, "What's Up With That?" (if not...for crying out loud...it's so much better + more ridiculous/wonderful/silly in example than trying to describe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLuy_IIq7FY)

ANYWAY. With every contradictory piece of information that gets churned out in the press, media, rumor mill, etc. about this case, and how many of these things don't apparently make sense...slowly driving folks crazy...I feel like the host, DeAndre Cole...

"Two fires in a small town on the same night..." (cue cymbal rhythm)
"...she was able to say a few names, but no arrests yet..." (bass piano notes)
"...oooh-wheee, went to a party, but told no one about it..." (hops up, immediately joined by cast of some familiar characters from throughout Courtland area; D.A. + Sherriff as back-up singers, GM + DT tango across the stage, AA jumps in wearing a track suit + doing an exuberant running-man dance)

"What's up with that?! What's up with that?! Old friend driving by Herron Road the same evening, also checking out the crime scene a few days later....oooh-wheeee..what's up with that?"...oooh-wheeee....Mom says they talked from 6:48 - 7:13, D.A. says phone call was "very brief"....what's up with that, what's uuuuup wiiiith thaaaaaat...??"

Sorry/not sorry, guys. I guess I just do this to keep myself (and maybe you) entertained/from getting frustrated + discouraged with all the confusion out there in this case.

 

[Concerned Mama]

If it were late spring and there were two fires at approximately the same time, I could see being somewhat suspicious. But late autumn? Having two fires on a Saturday evening, not so long after the sun has gone down and the temperatures have begun to drop doesn't sound that unusual to me, even if Courtland is a small community. It was early December, so temps dipping down low would have been fairly recent for MS, I'd think. Also, from the way JC was dressed (pj pants and a jacket), the air was chilly that night, probably the right temperature to build a fire in a fireplace that might not have been used since the previous winter (if that's the type of fire that occurred, which it may not have been).

I'm not trying to discount any theories here, but I'm not sure having a previous call that would have been around what, maybe 7:00, would have been all that suspicious.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Y'all: I have thought this on multiple occasions while reading about this case, but MizStery's "backlog of hinkies" comment paired with a post-dinner/somewhat punchy mood I'm in has made me want to share it, so...

You know that recurring sketch from (recent years of) Saturday Night Live, "What's Up With That?" (if not...for crying out loud...it's so much better + more ridiculous/wonderful/silly in example than trying to describe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLuy_IIq7FY)

ANYWAY. With every contradictory piece of information that gets churned out in the press, media, rumor mill, etc. about this case, and how many of these things don't apparently make sense...slowly driving folks crazy...I feel like the host, DeAndre Cole...

"Two fires in a small town on the same night..." (cue cymbal rhythm)
"...she was able to say a few names, but no arrests yet..." (bass piano notes)
"...oooh-wheee, went to a party, but told no one about it..." (hops up, immediately joined by cast of some familiar characters from throughout Courtland area; D.A. + Sherriff as back-up singers, GM + DT tango across the stage, AA jumps in wearing a track suit + doing an exuberant running-man dance)

"What's up with that?! What's up with that?! Old friend driving by Herron Road the same evening, also checking out the crime scene a few days later....oooh-wheeee..what's up with that?"...oooh-wheeee....Mom says they talked from 6:48 - 7:13, D.A. says phone call was "very brief"....what's up with that, what's uuuuup wiiiith thaaaaaat...??"

Sorry/not sorry, guys. I guess I just do this to keep myself (and maybe you) entertained/from getting frustrated + discouraged with all the confusion out there in this case.

Good post.

And the question remains....."Who dat"???!!!

 

[New1]

I find it a little odd that some SM pages of people from Courtland and Batesville which were once wide open are now made private or taken down completely, and I wonder if this means anything.

 

[southernyankee]

Having two fires on a Saturday evening, not so long after the sun has gone down and the temperatures have begun to drop doesn't sound that unusual to me, even if Courtland is a small community.

I agree it isn't impossible or even all that outlandish to consider given the temperature + the season. Space heaters and the like are common even in houses that do have a heating system, because so many buildings in the Deep South are meant to "breathe," not trap heat! The cold is not as extreme in the South but winter bites you harder indoors, as weird as that might sound.

It seems more like a mildly suspicious coincidence, at least to me, due to the overall size of the town + such close timing. I personally believe the two incidents are unrelated, but am willing to be wrong, of course.

Good post.

And the question remains....."Who dat"???!!!

Thanks, I was feeling a little manic. WHO DAT! (...Saints training camp is what, 5 months away? Lawdhavemercy.)

 

[southernyankee]

I find it a little odd that some SM pages of people from Courtland and Batesville which were once wide open are now made private or taken down completely, and I wonder if this means anything.

I noticed that too, at least in one particular individual's case - it especially stood out to me because I noticed it not long after the updated timeline was released (February 16/17); in comparison to what Google's cached results show, the page was up (or at least searchable given Google's results) as of February 15th. Hmm.

At minimum - I think all the publicity + attention this case has generated was unprecedented in the Courtland + Batesville area, and consequently plenty of people who live there (who in all likelihood have absolutely nothing to do with Jessica's murder) have found themselves + their social media pages suddenly exposed to the wider world. I think it was at least a rude wake-up call of HEY, check your privacy settings + be mindful of what you choose to post on the Internet.

 

[debirlfan]

Probably totally unrelated to this case, but... I've read that a fair number of arson fires are set by firemen.

 

[southernyankee]

Probably totally unrelated to this case, but... I've read that a fair number of arson fires are set by firemen.

...or is it really the other way round - some sort of pyromania that leads some to become firemen?

 

[anonone]

I am tired.

Therese Apel to Cole: Who befriended you on Facebook days after the incident?
Therese Apel to Anyone Who Would Know: Did Jessica have a tattoo?
Therese Apel to Anyone Who Would Know: Has a pc warrant been issued to shut down Facebook accounts?

I believe LD.

Snitching also means flirting with persons committed in a relationship.

All planned.