MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #10

[SeeAlice]

It seems at the latest presser that Champion (his surname is ironic or coincidental, I'm not sure) admitted that JC was out and about that morning (perhaps at a party (birthday, perhaps?). Regardless, I have not been on here for a while and it's time to sell my car and move.

Good luck! (I guess?)

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?268410-True-Crime-Radio-Thursday-Jan-14-2015-Beth-Karas-Jessica-Chamber-s-mother

http://www.panolian.com/editionviewer/default.aspx?Edition=fa3a6e6f-f756-49d3-ab59-1ca1a8308e23&Page=4ce80368-c2e8-4b49-847c-c58a1b525e8e

TITLE 97 - CRIMES
Chapter 3 - Crimes Against the Person.
97-3-7 - Simple assault; aggravated assault; simple domestic violence; aggravated domestic violence.

http://law.justia.com/codes/mississippi/2010/title-97/3/97-3-7

:gaah:

In your link to the Panolian, it lists an arrest for simple assault. No mention of domestic violence or Jessica's mother. I don't have speakers to listen to the radio interview but I doubt Jessica's mother said they had a violent relationship at the time of her death.

JMO

 

[BirdycatNY]

Intelligence specialist talks Jessica Chambers case emotions
Therese Apel, The Clarion-Ledger 4:40 p.m. CDT April 13, 2015
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...alks-jessica-chambers-case-emotions/25734909/

...but residents of the area have said that the internet chatter has made for an even more frightening environment in Panola County.

Is the above suggesting that people are being threatened by criminal enterprises/criminals in the community because people are concerned that a young lady was HEINOUSLY MURDERED and talk about it. No one should be causing fear in law-abiding community, who are concerned about safety and LE catching perp(s), or helping make their locals safer, NO ONE. Appalling and if that's the case the cowards should be 100% ashamed of themselves. May be I am interpreting "frightening environment" wrong though? Idk/

And respectfully, if Jessica dated anyone who was in a gang, then that is absolutely not part of a normal teenage lifestyle, it's very dangerous for young ladies. JC fell in love with who she did, but if she dated gangsters/mafia/criminal enterprises she didn't just date some handsome bad boy cliché, but career criminals. I think females who date such criminals face dangers that others do not, can be exploited and put in vulnerable situations that end up in death. But Jessica was in every sense of the word a victim and I am not saying otherwise. Jmo/

 

[Cherry]

To my knowledge there are no pictures of Jessica's car before it was burned. As far as witnesses go -- I believe there are those who have knowledge. They just wont come forward. Their concerns are more about not being busted rather than helping this case and solving it for Jessica. I cant remember who it was that said it here --- Jessica didn't have any real friends. That's obvious. If you have knowledge of meth users -- you already know they're mostly all about themselves. They talk a good talk but in reality they could care less about anyone else but themselves. There are a lot of those in the Courtland area. I refer to meth because I think a lot of Jessica's "friends" were users and sellers. Was she??

As far as the last few hours of Jessica's life, she did head to Batesville for something. Maybe to eat, to pick someone/something up. She stopped by someones residence to pick up/drop off something (drugs?) or someone. Was she set up? I don't know. I will say, that lately, it has really bugged me about one of those first news interviews with "what's her face and that dude." It bugs me the way she snickered when "he" was asked about how he knew Jessica. He replied "good friends." Then the snicker. How do you snicker at a time like that. How????

Anyway .......................... Nothing new or solved here I know.

I still think her shake n bake blew up. Just a theory but a damn good one.

 

[wfgodot]

The fact that charges have yet to be brought indicates one of three things:

.They're pending and it's just a matter of time; or

.The climate is rife with fear and therefore charges remain unlikely; or

.There are no charges possible as the main actor is already deceased.

By one definition, those who die violently are victims; it's just a matter of what, or whom.

 

[LR1]

<modsnip> We're over 4 months in and LE tells us from the get go that it was murder. Shake and bake? suicide? at this point there's no way in hell that I'd go there but I guess until its solved we are entitled to our theories. LE at times do get it wrong but more often than not they're spot on and if they are correct in their judgement in this case some of these <modsnip> theories are no more than defamation of a murder victim who can no longer defend herself. It seems after the horrifically violent way her life ended even in death this poor girl just cannot catch a break.

 

[samantha17]

Since the FBI and the ATF, along with the Panola County Sheriff Dept and the MBI, I believe this case is going to be solved in time.

 

[4senthia]

I'm holding out every hope that this case will be solved.
All we can do is listen, watch and wait.
I'd also like to believe that LE are just trying to get enough evidence to take to a grand jury/make an arrest.
My instincts are often wrong, but time teaches us all. Something is wrong with this investigation, IMO. I don't happen to think they even have a real suspect on radar. Just chasing every possible lead, but they come up with nothing valid.
Seems more likely now than ever that there may be a rouge killer out there that will have to kill again to be caught. Somewhat like Morgan Harrington's case.
Not all repeat offenders continue to use the same signature.
:moo:
~~ and strongly hoping I am very wrong ~~

 

[SteveP]

I was just reviewing DA Champion's video release from the 4-month anniversary again, and noticed something again that I had made a note of when I first heard it, but just kinda blew off. At about the 1:35 mark, the interviewer asked Champion what agencies are still working the case, and Champion replied that all of the same agencies are working on it that have been all along. He then began to list them off, and his words were "the Marshals, the ATF, the DE, uh I mean, excuse me, the FBI, the MBI...". As I said, I initially just blew that off as the man speaking without notes, and misspeaking, but I really wonder if it was an "oops" moment, and the DEA is in fact one of the agencies investigating her murder? If so, I would think it may very well signal a much larger investigation than just Jessica's death, and that may be at least one reason that no charges have been brought against anyone yet. Perhaps at some point there will be a much bigger roundup than just one or two people, and they are waiting until all charges will be brought before bringing any charges. Lord knows that county could stand a massive cleanup. Any thoughts??

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/Clip/...rder-case-on-4-month-anniversary-of-her-death

 

[wfgodot]

I was just reviewing DA Champion's video release from the 4-month anniversary again, and noticed something again that I had made a note of when I first heard it, but just kinda blew off. At about the 1:35 mark, the interviewer asked Champion what agencies are still working the case, and Champion replied that all of the same agencies are working on it that have been all along. He then began to list them off, and his words were "the Marshals, the ATF, the DE, uh I mean, excuse me, the FBI, the MBI...". As I said, I initially just blew that off as the man speaking without notes, and misspeaking, but I really wonder if it was an "oops" moment, and the DEA is in fact one of the agencies investigating her murder? If so, I would think it may very well signal a much larger investigation than just Jessica's death, and that may be at least one reason that no charges have been brought against anyone yet. Perhaps at some point there will be a much bigger roundup than just one or two people, and they are waiting until all charges will be brought before bringing any charges. Lord knows that county could stand a massive cleanup. Any thoughts??

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/Clip/...rder-case-on-4-month-anniversary-of-her-death

Good point SteveP. Nice catch.

 

[Steleheart]

I was just reviewing DA Champion's video release from the 4-month anniversary again, and noticed something again that I had made a note of when I first heard it, but just kinda blew off. At about the 1:35 mark, the interviewer asked Champion what agencies are still working the case, and Champion replied that all of the same agencies are working on it that have been all along. He then began to list them off, and his words were "the Marshals, the ATF, the DE, uh I mean, excuse me, the FBI, the MBI...". As I said, I initially just blew that off as the man speaking without notes, and misspeaking, but I really wonder if it was an "oops" moment, and the DEA is in fact one of the agencies investigating her murder? If so, I would think it may very well signal a much larger investigation than just Jessica's death, and that may be at least one reason that no charges have been brought against anyone yet. Perhaps at some point there will be a much bigger roundup than just one or two people, and they are waiting until all charges will be brought before bringing any charges. Lord knows that county could stand a massive cleanup. Any thoughts??

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/Clip/...rder-case-on-4-month-anniversary-of-her-death

I have felt all along it was about drugs way bigger than Panola. Isn't PC a small backwater stop off along a major drug trafficking highway as in trucking?. The highway billboards, not expected to make an arrest [soon], the snitching thing, the book thing. IIRC she was already in touch with someone about the book deal.
DEA. Why would DEA NOT be involved. The better question is why silently if it was just local?

:cow:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

<modsnip> We're over 4 months in and LE tells us from the get go that it was murder. Shake and bake? suicide? at this point there's no way in hell that I'd go there but I guess until its solved we are entitled to our theories. LE at times do get it wrong but more often than not they're spot on and if they are correct in their judgement in this case some of these <modsnip> theories are no more than defamation of a murder victim who can no longer defend herself. It seems after the horrifically violent way her life ended even in death this poor girl just cannot catch a break.

<modsnip> ...our theories are well thought out. They are not defamation of a victim. (Suicide, to my knowledge, is not considered defamation.) Until they have absolute proof then all theories should be on the table. Yes, LE could be wrong. They could have jumped to a wrong conclusion from the beginning. It happens. But I respect and appreciate all theories on this case. We can continue to debate our various points of each one, but until this case is solved...no one can determine who has the better theory.

 

[MizStery]

Intelligence specialist talks Jessica Chambers case emotions
Therese Apel, The Clarion-Ledger 4:40 p.m. CDT April 13, 2015
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...alks-jessica-chambers-case-emotions/25734909/
Is the above suggesting that people are being threatened by criminal enterprises/criminals in the community because people are concerned that a young lady was HEINOUSLY MURDERED and talk about it. No one should be causing fear in law-abiding community, who are concerned about safety and LE catching perp(s), or helping make their locals safer, NO ONE. Appalling and if that's the case the cowards should be 100% ashamed of themselves. May be I am interpreting "frightening environment" wrong though? Idk/
<snipped>
Jmo/

<snipped>
Lord knows that county could stand a massive cleanup. Any thoughts??

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/Clip/...rder-case-on-4-month-anniversary-of-her-death

The citizens of this community have cast a ballot of no confidence & zero trust(by the deafing silence in response to calls for tips) in public safety.

As BirdycatNY concluded "frightening environment" is the correct toxic label for the criminal element strangling the citizens of this community.

In conclusion,I do not think unless by some miracle;someone with direct knowledge of Jessica's crime cop a 'plea bargain' is Jessica's case going to be solved in the imminent future or perhaps ever. :sigh:

Just my opinion.

:moo:

 

[LR1]

<modsnip> ...our theories are well thought out. They are not defamation of a victim. (Suicide, to my knowledge, is not considered defamation.) Until they have absolute proof then all theories should be on the table. Yes, LE could be wrong. They could have jumped to a wrong conclusion from the beginning. It happens. But I respect and appreciate all theories on this case. We can continue to debate our various points of each one, but until this case is solved...no one can determine who has the better theory.

I haven't been informed of all the evidence they have to classify this as murder and neither has anyone in this thread yet that's what they're telling us it was, that's what I meant by uninformed. You have several different agencies that have looked at this case with absolutely no ambiguity in their determination. If they didn't have absolute proof I seriously doubt there would be such a sizable reward and billboards in several states. I can only go by what they tell us and local state and federal investigators are all saying she died at the hands of other/s and that's enough for me.


http://www.fbi.gov/jackson/press-re...ward-in-jessica-chambers-murder-investigation

 

[wfgodot]

I haven't been informed of all the evidence they have to classify this as murder and neither has anyone in this thread yet that's what they're telling us it was, that's what I meant by uninformed. You have several different agencies that have looked at this case with absolutely no ambiguity in their determination.

snip

And yet no arrests have been made; nor are there named suspects; nor are there named persons of interest.

130 days after the death by fire -- and no nothing; yes, plenty of room for ambiguity on the basis of that fact.

 

[well-intentioned]

I'm holding out every hope that this case will be solved.
All we can do is listen, watch and wait.
I'd also like to believe that LE are just trying to get enough evidence to take to a grand jury/make an arrest.
My instincts are often wrong, but time teaches us all. Something is wrong with this investigation, IMO. I don't happen to think they even have a real suspect on radar. Just chasing every possible lead, but they come up with nothing valid.
Seems more likely now than ever that there may be a rouge killer out there that will have to kill again to be caught. Somewhat like Morgan Harrington's case.
Not all repeat offenders continue to use the same signature.
:moo:
~~ and strongly hoping I am very wrong ~~

I guess I'm thinking on the lines of what you have said. I too believe there are no suspects. Or, they need real hard evidence. I appreciate the news article put out several days ago. It sounds like LE is a bit frustrated in all the negative comments from posters out here. There's consolation in knowing they care very much about solving this case and how dedicated they still are -- we cant know that unless they inform us. I realize they have to be protective of what they know in order to conceal evidence. However, they should be checking in fairly often to let the public know they haven't dropped this thing. Maybe the people really close to Jessica, through word of mouth, already know this.

It was very revealing to hear that this is the most frustrating case ever worked -- or something relative to that statement. I took a couple of things from that -- they either have nothing or just cant get a break with evidence. I guess what makes this so difficult in understanding why this case isn't solved is because the population is so small and everyone knows each other for the most part. I guess because I have friends in the law enforcement there who say "they have nothing" is why I believe they really don't. I still believe the person(s) involved just became enraged with Jessica. I think they were really out of their minds on drugs, etc. Jessica happened across their paths. Maybe because she was trying to get her life together made her an even bigger target. I do believe it was drug related but maybe not in the way that most believe. Just my own opinion. Maybe its because I've heard and have seen so many users in the local area(s) who stay in trouble with their anger and drug issues. Be it selling or buying. There are a lot of angry people in that area. Kids who grew up and continue to grow up in a bad environment. Surrounded by drugs and no real leadership. Its not just Panola County, MS with these issues. These issues are everywhere. I have folks who live in a small community in Texas who have the same issues; so this isn't a negative against Panola County. This just happens to be the location we're talking about because of Jessica. Unfortunately there are a lot of "Panola Counties" and "Jessica's" out there.

 

[menmo]

This is one of my theories of what I think could have happened to Jessica. Not exactly, of course, but I do think there probably some jealousy and I do think she was targeted because of such, but by more than one person.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2015/0...x-boyfriend-girlfriend-fire-ann-marie-parsell
A Texas woman allegedly terrorized her ex-boyfriend’s new girlfriend and threatened to set her on fire with a propane torch.

 

[4senthia]

Basic thought: does this perp(s) have a fascination with burning things?
Or did this happen to cover up/get ride of evidence?
I don't know the answer. Maybe no one but the perp does.
Jealousy can cause severe rage and lead to such a horrible thing.
This is where the difference in psychopathy and sociopathy come in, IMO.
We are obviously dealing with someone who has no conscience. Zero.
Bring in hard drugs and loss of touch with reality can occur. IOW the perp may disassociate with the act and we can end up with a situation like this.
Certainly there is someone fitting this description in every area. The highway system is also full of these traveling offenders and they are extremely difficult to find.
Just some rambling thoughts and the responses since my post yesterday have all been enlightening.
I'll keep tuning in for updates.
Edited to add:
Aviation fuel isn't that hard to come by and it is used in some forms in drag racing etc. That area of MS is full of tracks used by people from many areas including Memphis metro.
Her feet weren't burnt? So she wasn't walking or she was instead lying down. Did the fire spread from her to the car or was it simultaneous?
It is all very mysterious.
:moo:

 

[flatfootjoe]

snip

And yet no arrests have been made; nor are there named suspects; nor are there named persons of interest.

130 days after the death by fire -- and no nothing; yes, plenty of room for ambiguity on the basis of that fact.

They either have absolutely nothing, or what is known has been buried so deeply it will never see the light of day. If I were a member of any of the federal agencies involved in this case, I'd call for an investigation of the investigation. I've long since surpassed my frustration limit with this case and the people in charge of the investigation. No ambiguity indeed...



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[New1]

I was just reviewing DA Champion's video release from the 4-month anniversary again, and noticed something again that I had made a note of when I first heard it, but just kinda blew off. At about the 1:35 mark, the interviewer asked Champion what agencies are still working the case, and Champion replied that all of the same agencies are working on it that have been all along. He then began to list them off, and his words were "the Marshals, the ATF, the DE, uh I mean, excuse me, the FBI, the MBI...". As I said, I initially just blew that off as the man speaking without notes, and misspeaking, but I really wonder if it was an "oops" moment, and the DEA is in fact one of the agencies investigating her murder? If so, I would think it may very well signal a much larger investigation than just Jessica's death, and that may be at least one reason that no charges have been brought against anyone yet. Perhaps at some point there will be a much bigger roundup than just one or two people, and they are waiting until all charges will be brought before bringing any charges. Lord knows that county could stand a massive cleanup. Any thoughts??

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/Clip/...rder-case-on-4-month-anniversary-of-her-death

It could also mean he started to name the DEA then realized this agency was NOT involved in the investigation. Could be read either way, IMO.