MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #7

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This discussion feels a lot like maneuvering carefully through a minefield. I believe I recall in the on camera interview with the EB fella who was questioned by LE that he lived on the road near the scene of the fire which killed JC.

There was also reportedly a party on the same road as the fire which has been alluded to by several in the MSM.

Question: Has there been any indication via MSM that the party was at the house of EB? Please, if the answer is no a simple one word NO is all I am requesting.
No. Not to my knowledge
 
I would especially appreciate a family tree kind of chart. So many people related, interrelated, married/but not legally married, the proliferate use of aliases and nicknames, multiple facebook pages for the same person.... I began doing a chart two days ago, puter crashed, Felicity frustrated.:gaah:

can't create a tree here because we can't mention many names since they are not in MSM and not POI's. <modsnip> JMO
 
Anybody have any thoughts as to how/if this relates to JC's case? TIA I'm confusing myself trying to connect the dots! :please::please::please:
The connections are very loose, non-existent, as far as we know.

Dots:

  • A fugitive was arrested in Iowa.
  • According to Tom Dees of FOX13, the man has connections to Panola County.
  • The man is said to have returned to Iowa in late December. From where isn't clear.
  • The man might be acquainted with JC's friends.

That's pretty much all of it. Worthy of a mention, but nothing more at this time, IMO.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...-arrests-wanted-fugitive-des-moines/21461497/

https://www.facebook.com/1755711525...5571152541819/722305431201719/?type=1&theater
 
Am I the only person who finds it interesting that Jessica's acquaintances are generally older than she by a significant number of years? Moreover that some of those immediate acquaintances were the first people LE sought out for interviews in the early days of the investigation?

It bothers me a great deal that a 19-year-old, high school graduate associates with people ten years older than she.
 
The connections are very loose, non-existent, as far as we know.

Dots:

  • A fugitive was arrested in Iowa.
  • According to Tom Dees of FOX13, the man has connections to Panola County.
  • The man is said to have returned to Iowa in late December. From where isn't clear.
  • The man might be acquainted with JC's friends.

That's pretty much all of it. Worthy of a mention, but nothing more at this time, IMO.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...-arrests-wanted-fugitive-des-moines/21461497/

https://www.facebook.com/1755711525...5571152541819/722305431201719/?type=1&theater

Thanks. Neither article mentions any ties to Panola County, or am I missing something? TIA
 
And the fact that JC's associates have sizable violent criminal records.


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Am I the only person who finds it interesting that Jessica's acquaintances are generally older than she by a significant number of years? Moreover that some of those immediate acquaintances were the first people LE sought out for interviews in the early days of the investigation?

It bothers me a great deal that a 19-year-old, high school graduate associates with people ten years older than she.
I think it is also another phenomenon of small town America. Age doesn't seem to matter much in a small town when everyone knows everyone. People gravitate to ones who have similar interests (such as partying or music etc).
 
<modsnip>

Task force arrests a Metro&#8217;s Most Wanted fugitive

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...-arrests-wanted-fugitive-des-moines/21461497/

Law enforcement officials arrested a Metro&#8217;s Most Wanted fugitive in Des Moines on Wednesday.

The Southern Iowa Fugitive Task Force, led by U.S. marshals, arrested Terry Maurice Young Jr., 28, in the 1000 block of 28th Street at about 6 a.m. Wednesday, according to a news release from the U.S. Marshals Service.
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Interesting info concerning digital billboard's effectiveness; The FBI began a National Digital Billboard Iniative a few years back. This iniative has been very productive by generating awareness and citizen tips in cases of fugitives from justice, missing & murdered persons investigations, etc.

Clear Channel Outdoor, Des Moines
January 3 at 2:02pm ·
A US Marshal Service fugitive currently running on 15 of our digital displays in Des Moines. Any information on Terry Maurice Young, Jr.

<See Billboard for Escapee Terry Maurice Young -->
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Gunther toody, I think yours above is in response to my question earlier about the E name fellow with a toothache who was questioned and what is the proximity of his residence to the crime scene. Are there any MSM links you could provide me regarding that proximity or the relationship you describe? Not being nitpicky. Just trying really hard to follow this case and this one has been tough for me due to so many variables and so much out there that is not within TOS to discuss. If there are no MSM links to back it things up a one word - no is fine.

I am not necessarily dismissing items not linkable but have no wish to cause problems with TOS or the thread if you follow. Thanks.
 
Gunther toody, I think yours above is in response to my question earlier about the E name fellow with a toothache who was questioned and what is the proximity of his residence to the crime scene. Are there any MSM links you could provide me regarding that proximity or the relationship you describe? Not being nitpicky. Just trying really hard to follow this case and this one has been tough for me due to so many variables and so much out there that is not within TOS to discuss. If there are no MSM links to back it things up a one word - no is fine.

I am not necessarily dismissing items not linkable but have no wish to cause problems with TOS or the thread if you follow. Thanks.
I answered the question about "proximity" earlier today. He lives "just down the road" from the crime scene. To my knowledge, there's no MSM regarding "relationship", but I could be mistaken.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11380273
 
1. Jessica Chambers victim found with burned vehicle on Hurron Rd. Worked in Batesville. Her funeral was in Batesville.

2. Lisa Chambers. Jessica's mom. Lisa talked to Jessica, reportedly, for 20 minutes.

3. Ben Chambers &#8211; Jessica's dad, lost son Ben Allen in a brutal car accident.

4. Ray McClenic - Reported loud suspect vehicle.

6. Charlotte Wilkerson = Auntie Sha Sha, who lives across the street from Jessica's mom. According to mom, Sha Sha is the only friend Jessica really visited much since getting on the "right track," and Jessica mostly stayed at home. Charlotte was interviewed by the news saying that Jessica was going to a party that night. (We don't even know if Auntie Sha Sha is actually anybody's aunt; it's a nickname.)

7. Cole Haley - Fire Chief, thought to have been told Perp info from dying Jessica.

8. Ali Alsania - Gas station owner/one of last known to see Jessica alive. Reportedly gave all video equipment to LE.

9. Cassandra Market AKA Sandy Rudd - Asked Jessica for a smoke but she had wrong brand. Drove off with Ben Byers. Gave differing names. Aunt of Bryan Rudd. Cassandra Markett is in fact Sandy Rudd, yes, one in the same. She just gave the name Cassandra Market, for whatever reason, when she was interviewed outside of M&M and admitted to being the one who asked Jessica for a cigarette shortly before Jessica met her fate. She is also the one who was driving the car that Bejaun Byers rode in that night, seen on the video filling up a gas can, shortly before Jessica was murdered. Sandy Rudd gave the name Market, which was apparently her married name from an earlier marriage. Sandy Rudd admits to being the woman out of view in the M&M security camera footage, the one who asked Jessica for a cigarette, but turned it down since it either was or wasn't menthol (can't remember which she smokes). Sandy Rudd is not Brejuan Byers' girlfriend, but is related to his girlfriend/common law wife. Nephew Bryan Rudd.

10. Bejuan Byers (or Buyers, depending on the source), gas can man, . Bejuan Byers - filled up gas container, drove away with Sandy Rudd aka Casandra Markett. Brejuan Byers is gas can man in the striped shirt. He leaves M&M in Sandy Rudd's car. Sandy Rudd is not Brejuan Byers' girlfriend, but is related to <modsnip>.

<modsnip>

12. Bryan Rudd - Jessica lived with Bryan and Theresa for some time prior to her death. Nephew of Sandy Rudd son of Theresa Rudd Flemming. Said to of lived in Iowa for past two years.

13. Theresa Rudd Flemming, is Bryan Rudd's mother. She was interviewed (not outside of the M&M, for once) by MSM as well. Jessica lived with Bryan and Theresa for some time prior to her death.

14. Derek Turner - 31 yrs. Old. 1st person to be interviewed by LE. Knew Jessica, claims he doesn't know why he was questioned.

15. Eric Bibbs - Lived near car fire, interviewed by police.

16. George Mister - has a lengthy criminal history, including gang activities and an active case against him for kidnapping and robbing a local woman (http://www.panolian.com/v2/content.a...=george+mister). Give this link a look and help yourself to some of his many recent criminal mishaps in Panola County. George Mister stated in his interview with the news that Mr. Mister (who is named in the Panola paper as a local gang leader awaiting trial for kidnapping, assault, robbery, etc.) had texted Jessica a few days before her murder.

17. Rachael Tutor <modsnip>

18. Lynnsey Fowler - Friend/worked at Sonic frequently visited by Jessica/Crappie fishing night of incident.

19. Amber Sheilds - HS Friend/with Lynnsey Fowler at incident scene day after.

Jessica was involved in three different churches outside of Batesville and Courtland.
21. Crowder Baptist Church--Rev. Larry Kilgore, 15 miles from Batesville. Jessica confided in him personal information.
22. Charleston Community Church of God--Rev. Eric Greggs, 25 miles from Batesville
23. Pope, Liberty Hill Baptist Church, --Linda Oliver, 7 miles from Batesville Linda Oliver - Spoke at funeral, talked with Jessica about publishing a book about her life.

Unkowns
24. Unknown name - Female gas clerk delivering "chicken" to customers outside of station.
25. Unknown Name &#8211; 911 caller
26. Unkown Name &#8211; Tow Truck Driver

Timeline
Chambers lost his son in a horrific car accident a couple of years ago.
MSM Source: http://wreg.com/2014/12/07/father-sp...re-and-killed/

Sunday, November 30, 2014 (approx)
Authorities reportedly investigating possible confrontation from a week before Jessica Chambers&#8217; death
PANOLA COUNTY, Miss. &#8211; Investigators in the Jessica Chambers case are reportedly exploring the possibility that someone might have aggressively confronted the teenager at a gas station a week before her death.

He [Ali Alsani] told WREG investigators recently returned to his gas station, asking him about a possible altercation in the parking lot involving Chambers a week before she died.
&#8220;I told them I wasn&#8217;t there that day,&#8221; Alsanai said.
Alsanai explained that investigators told him the altercation allegedly happened in the morning sometime about a week before she died.
He said he usually doesn&#8217;t work in the mornings, and he didn&#8217;t know anything about an attack or fight.
http://wreg.com/2014/12/18/authorit...on-from-a-week-before-jessica-chambers-death/

Saturday, December 6th 2014 approximately 8:15 p.m.
Jessica's car found fully engulfed
According to Panola County Sheriff Dennis Darby, a passing motorist alerted his department and the fire department to the scene. Darby says by the time rescue workers got on the scene the car was fully engulfed in flames. The driver tried to tell rescuers something but she was so badly burned she could not be understood. She was transported to Regional One where she later died
MSM Source: http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/2...ting-death-of-woman-found-burned-near-her-car

Sunday, December 7th 2014 1:39 p.m.
MSM Source: http://wreg.com/2014/12/07/father-sp...re-and-killed/
The sheriff said deputies are on the lookout for two men they believe Jessica may have been with on Saturday night.

Monday, December 8th 2:04 p.m.
MSM Source: http://www.wave3.com/story/27575901/...heinous-murder
Several people are being questioned by detectives, but no arrests have been made. The teen's car, and any potential clues inside, are charred black. Investigators did find a cell phone at the scene. "We do have a phone that we believe is hers and that is what we are attempting to gather the information from," said Hale. Detectives spent Monday going through the phone for clues.

Reporter Mike Clark turns over gas station video evidence to the police department
MSM Source: http://www.wave3.com/clip/10932258/g...bers-last-hour

December 9th 8:51 p.m. - Charlotte Wilkerson Party Statement & Investigation Information
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...victim-before-
"There was a party going on and she was there," said Chambers' acquaintance Charlotte Wilkerson. "When she left the party, that's when it happened to her."There is surveillance video of Chambers at a convenience store near her home a couple of hours before she died. Panola County Deputies watched it and shot video of at least an hour of it, paying attention to any people who walked in and out of the store. Champion says a judge signed an order so investigators can get Chambers' phone records. He expects to receive those Wednesday.

<modsnip>

December 10th &#8211; Lynnsey Fowler and Amber Shields visit crime scene
MSM Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...fire/20195725/
Lynnsey Fowler and Amber Shields, who said they were close to Jessica Chambers, wanted to see the spot where their friend was attacked.
Fowler kept shaking her head in disbelief as she stared at the charred, rutted ground where Jessica Chambers' car sat after it apparently ran up a slight embankment. Fowler remembers the teen from her sleepovers with her sister.
Fowler said she passed by the scene Saturday on her way to fish for crappie at Enid Lake.
"Sunday morning, I took my phone off the charger and looked at Facebook, like I almost always do, and I saw the Fly High Jessica Chambers page," Fowler said, referring to the digital memorial Chambers' friends and family had set up.
"I got sick to my stomach," Fowler said once she realized what had happened. "I can't believe I didn't see anything when I passed by here. I wish I had. I would have helped her. I would have fought for her if I had to."
Fowler works at the Batesville Sonic Drive-In where Chambers was a frequent customer. She often would order one of those massive Route 44 drinks "that was almost as big as her," Fowler said.
"She was my Sonic baby. She was up there all the time, just all the time," Fowler said. "She always had that smile on her face, always looking in her mirror fixing those eyelashes."
Shields &#8212; who, like Fowler, lives close to the crime scene &#8212; went to school with Jessica Chambers at South Panola High School where Jessica Chambers graduated in 2013. They hung out there and socially.
"She had fun with life, Shields said. "She was a very likeable person and ready for anything. She got along with everybody."

December 12th 11:09 p.m. - Eric Bibbs officially questioned
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...d-not-know-her
One of the people investigators questioned is Eric Bibbs.
"That day that it happened. I had been here with a toothache since about 6 p.m.," said Bibbs. "I think maybe they came by here about 9:30 p.m., they even went to my grandma address. They called my mom."
Bibbs, a married father, lives just down the road from where Jessica Chambers was discovered horribly burned lying next to her burning car. Investigators say Chambers was able to talk with the first responder. Bibbs says the investigator mentioned to him that Chambers had said the name Derrick or Eric.*"He said there was an accident I think down the road and your name was mentioned," said Bibbs. "And he said I think one of the other people said the only Eric I know in this area is Eric Bibbs."
Bibbs told the detective he did not know Jessica Chambers and wasn't even aware of what had happened to her. The investigator never told him why he was being questioned.

December 16th &#8211; Ali Alsania Gas Station Store owner interview
MSM Source: http://www.clarionledger.com/media/c...-to-his-store/

December 19th 6:02 p.m. - Mr. Mister and Rachael Tutor officially questioned
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...cted-next-week
George Mister and Rachael Tutor say they're the latest to be questioned in Jessica Chambers murder.
"They kept us up there for like 6,7,8 hours," said Mister. "I took a lie detector test, I took a swab test."
Investigators wouldn't confirm the pair was questioned, but a jail log shows Mister's name on the date in question.
"They questioned me about a text message that I sent Jessica, two days before, and I guess that was why they may have thought something, I don't know," said Tutor.

December 16th &#8211; Ray McClenic reports of suspected vehicle
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...rs-murder-case
"I called the sheriff's department and I told them everything that I knew," said tipster Ray McClenic. "I said, 'What y'all are looking for, I don't know what kind of vehicle.' I said, 'But it's got really, really loud pipes on it.'"
McClenic said he heard a vehicle driving fast down his street the night Jessica Chambers was discovered burning next to her car in Courtland, Mississippi more than one week ago.

December 16th &#8211; Ex Boyfriend Bryan Rudd cleared
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...l-media-claims
One thing is clear, investigators say Jessica's ex-boyfriend is not a suspect, despite what social media is saying.

Friday, December 29th 4:51 p.m. - Cause of death
MSM Source: http://www.clarionledger.com/story/n...ects/21005697/
Chambers was found on Herron Road in Courtland a little after 8 p.m. Dec. 6, walking away from her burning vehicle with burns over 98 percent of her body. Coroner Gracie Gulledge said the cause of the young woman's death was thermal injury. Officials classified Chambers' death as a homicide, but in spite of interviewing what they have said is more than 100 potential witnesses, they say they still have yet to emerge with a prime suspect.
 
I am so sorry - I keep trying to keep up and so want to see someone 'connect the dots' but I keep getting a feeling there is something there with that arrest in Iowa.
I am looking back, but I just had back surgery a few days ago, regardless I saw a SM feed that linked the arrestee with Panola County. It was his FB but now I cannot link it. It is important because the arrestee was FB friends with SR who called Jessica to her on her way into the store. The nick names were and are important IMO, so if I have missed this discussion please forgive me..

Before I had to take a break I had some links which are now gone, so if anyone can get me up to speed on the Iowa arrest that would be nice :)
Or if it is off limits I understand.

(Iknowtheressomethingtherethoughsorry.)

ETA: I think I will just lurk for now, thanks so much.

LOL NM I have enough with the up-thread point by point post, thanks.

:cow:
 
Am I the only person who finds it interesting that Jessica's acquaintances are generally older than she by a significant number of years? Moreover that some of those immediate acquaintances were the first people LE sought out for interviews in the early days of the investigation?

It bothers me a great deal that a 19-year-old, high school graduate associates with people ten years older than she.

About whom are you speaking? JMO
 
1. Jessica Chambers victim found with burned vehicle on Hurron Rd. Worked in Batesville. Her funeral was in Batesville.

2. Lisa Chambers. Jessica's mom. Lisa talked to Jessica, reportedly, for 20 minutes.

3. Ben Chambers – Jessica's dad, lost son Ben Allen in a brutal car accident.

4. Ray McClenic - Reported loud suspect vehicle.....

<snipped just for convenience>

If we are going to do this, then it would be advantageous to do it chronologically, with dates, times, etc.

For example,
  • Jessica Chambers victim found with burned vehicle on Herron Rd. (link, time, date....)
  • Worked in Batesville (first MSM link referencing this fact, time, date....)
  • Her funeral was in Batesville (link, time, date....)
  • Jessica's mom. Lisa talked to Jessica, reportedly for 20 minutes. (first MSM link referencing this fact, time, date....)
  • ....and so on and so forth

This is not to suggest that your work is questionable; it is merely to suggest that a chronological timeline based upon the known facts is superior to a collection of data.
 
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