MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #7

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If we are going to do this, then it would be advantageous to do it chronologically, with dates, times, etc.

For example,
  • Jessica Chambers victim found with burned vehicle on Herron Rd. (link, time, date....)
  • Worked in Batesville (first MSM link referencing this fact, time, date....)
  • Her funeral was in Batesville (link, time, date....)
  • Jessica's mom. Lisa talked to Jessica, reportedly for 20 minutes. (first MSM link referencing this fact, time, date....)
  • ....and so on and so forth

This is not to suggest that your work is questionable; it is merely to suggest that a chronological timeline based upon the known facts is superior to a collection of data.

Once the cast of characters is named, everything is pretty much in chronological order. Someone spent far more time putting this together than I, or most of us would. I appreciate it and find it a useful resource. I am sure it can be copied into notepad and put into whatever order one feels works better for them. JMO
 
Once the cast of characters is named, everything is pretty much in chronological order. Someone spent far more time putting this together than I, or most of us would. I appreciate it and find it a useful resource. I am sure it can be copied into notepad and put into whatever order one feels works better for them. JMO

I really DO appreciate it, as well, but there are some inaccuracies which cannot be pointed out. JMO
 
Because this information like the vast majority of other information on this case is from the site no one dare talk about much less link to.
By forcing yourselves to rely strictly on MSM and not where people who actually knew those involved and have insight into the events surrounding the case you are severely handcuffing yourselves as to what information you have access to.
I am sure you guys have your reasons but it is near impossible to find answers in the MSM when no one is talking to them.

But the media thread still has the MSM articles with most of this information embedded therein.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?265079-MS-Jessica-Chambers-19-Panola-County-Dec-2014
 
To each his own. Personally, I prefer a chronological timeline, but I don't have time to prepare one right now. So I'm grateful for NineMilly's effort. It works for me.
 
To each his own.

Bessie...could we have a "parking lot" thread so we could exchange our own sleuthing and feel free to toss ideas out there? Or, is that still subject to legal issues?. TY JMO
 
NineMilly:
First thank-you!

In the time line portion I was thinking that it could be helpful to include a link to this WREG story.Or is it repetitive & speculative?


Authorities reportedly investigating possible confrontation from a week before Jessica Chambers’ death
PANOLA COUNTY, Miss. – Investigators in the Jessica Chambers case are reportedly exploring the possibility that someone might have aggressively confronted the teenager at a gas station a week before her death.
District Attorney John Champion confirmed gas station worker Ali Alsanai, who has received death threats, is cleared in this case.
Alsanai gave police surveillance video that showed Chambers only hours before her death, and some people online accused him of doctoring video or knowing too much about the crime a short time after it happened.
Alsanai denies altering the video and claims investigators told him about Chambers’ death.
He told WREG investigators recently returned to his gas station, asking him about a possible altercation in the parking lot involving Chambers a week before she died.
“I told them I wasn’t there that day,” Alsanai said.
Alsanai explained that investigators told him the altercation allegedly happened in the morning sometime about a week before she died.
He
said he usually doesn’t work in the mornings, and he didn’t know anything about an attack or fight.


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http://wreg.com/2014/12/18/authorit...on-from-a-week-before-jessica-chambers-death/
 
I'll have to get back to you on that, Cady. Right now, I don't see it happening, but we'll at least give the idea some consideration.
 
the arrest in Iowa is interesting, bc we all know per MSM that JC's ex-bf lives there.
 
Interesting indeed. Can you provide a link to this info?

oh, actually I got one of the arrests wrong! Boone was arrested! I didn't know that! When and why? anyone have the link info about GM and Sha Sha getting arrested?

found the link, but doesn't say what they were arrested for. anyone???
 
I am so sorry - I keep trying to keep up and so want to see someone 'connect the dots' but I keep getting a feeling there is something there with that arrest in Iowa.
I am looking back, but I just had back surgery a few days ago, regardless I saw a SM feed that linked the arrestee with Panola County. It was his FB but now I cannot link it. It is important because the arrestee was FB friends with SR who called Jessica to her on her way into the store. The nick names were and are important IMO, so if I have missed this discussion please forgive me..

Before I had to take a break I had some links which are now gone, so if anyone can get me up to speed on the Iowa arrest that would be nice :)
Or if it is off limits I understand.

(Iknowtheressomethingtherethoughsorry.)

ETA: I think I will just lurk for now, thanks so much.

LOL NM I have enough with the up-thread point by point post, thanks.

:cow:

yes, I saw the FB link between the fugitive and the FB friends list of people interviewed in the JC case too.
this case is a minefield. I honestly have no idea what we can talk about and why we can't. and yes, I've read the rules.
 
oh, actually I got one of the arrests wrong! Boone was arrested! I didn't know that! When and why? anyone have the link info about GM and Sha Sha getting arrested?

I dont have the link handy but Bessie posted it this afternoon, maybe around the end of the last thread? I will look for the link, but she said they both bonded out.
 
yes, I saw the FB link between the fugitive and the FB friends list of people interviewed in the JC case too.
this case is a minefield. I honestly have no idea what we can talk about and why we can't. and yes, I've read the rules.

We can talk about the weather....pretty chilly here. :)
 
Here are the links for the arrest yesterday of people who have been talked about here before:

https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/d...=25000&agency=60&id=36208&searchType=offender

https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/d...=25000&agency=60&id=35198&searchType=offender

FYI I figured out why I could not find these earlier. For some reason the search does not work if you put in the entire name but does work if you do the partial name search.

WhyTF are they both smiling in their mug shots??????????????????????????
 
All I can say at this point is I sure hope LE has a better handle on this case than I do. I used to be pretty good at the board game 'Clue', but honestly, I think there are about a dozen Col. Mustards in this case, and they all could have done it.
 
True 'dat! But looks like it's getting HOT in Courtland, MS. [emoji41]

Yes....maybe?!

On a positive note, arrests lead to DNA being entered into databases which can assist in linking cases.
Let's hope that forensics will give a little clarity for lady justice.

Moo
 
Good info! But I'm not certain that Auntie Sha Sha lives across from mom. Does anyone have the link for that to remind me? Thanks!
1. Jessica Chambers victim found with burned vehicle on Hurron Rd. Worked in Batesville. Her funeral was in Batesville.

2. Lisa Chambers. Jessica's mom. Lisa talked to Jessica, reportedly, for 20 minutes.

3. Ben Chambers – Jessica's dad, lost son Ben Allen in a brutal car accident.

4. Ray McClenic - Reported loud suspect vehicle.

6. Charlotte Wilkerson = Auntie Sha Sha, who lives across the street from Jessica's mom. According to mom, Sha Sha is the only friend Jessica really visited much since getting on the "right track," and Jessica mostly stayed at home. Charlotte was interviewed by the news saying that Jessica was going to a party that night. (We don't even know if Auntie Sha Sha is actually anybody's aunt; it's a nickname.)

7. Cole Haley - Fire Chief, thought to have been told Perp info from dying Jessica.

8. Ali Alsania - Gas station owner/one of last known to see Jessica alive. Reportedly gave all video equipment to LE.

9. Cassandra Market AKA Sandy Rudd - Asked Jessica for a smoke but she had wrong brand. Drove off with Ben Byers. Gave differing names. Aunt of Bryan Rudd. Cassandra Markett is in fact Sandy Rudd, yes, one in the same. She just gave the name Cassandra Market, for whatever reason, when she was interviewed outside of M&M and admitted to being the one who asked Jessica for a cigarette shortly before Jessica met her fate. She is also the one who was driving the car that Bejaun Byers rode in that night, seen on the video filling up a gas can, shortly before Jessica was murdered. Sandy Rudd gave the name Market, which was apparently her married name from an earlier marriage. Sandy Rudd admits to being the woman out of view in the M&M security camera footage, the one who asked Jessica for a cigarette, but turned it down since it either was or wasn't menthol (can't remember which she smokes). Sandy Rudd is not Brejuan Byers' girlfriend, but is related to his girlfriend/common law wife. Nephew Bryan Rudd.

10. Bejuan Byers (or Buyers, depending on the source), gas can man, . Bejuan Byers - filled up gas container, drove away with Sandy Rudd aka Casandra Markett. Brejuan Byers is gas can man in the striped shirt. He leaves M&M in Sandy Rudd's car. Sandy Rudd is not Brejuan Byers' girlfriend, but is related to <modsnip>.

<modsnip>

12. Bryan Rudd - Jessica lived with Bryan and Theresa for some time prior to her death. Nephew of Sandy Rudd son of Theresa Rudd Flemming. Said to of lived in Iowa for past two years.

13. Theresa Rudd Flemming, is Bryan Rudd's mother. She was interviewed (not outside of the M&M, for once) by MSM as well. Jessica lived with Bryan and Theresa for some time prior to her death.

14. Derek Turner - 31 yrs. Old. 1st person to be interviewed by LE. Knew Jessica, claims he doesn't know why he was questioned.

15. Eric Bibbs - Lived near car fire, interviewed by police.

16. George Mister - has a lengthy criminal history, including gang activities and an active case against him for kidnapping and robbing a local woman (http://www.panolian.com/v2/content.a...=george+mister). Give this link a look and help yourself to some of his many recent criminal mishaps in Panola County. George Mister stated in his interview with the news that Mr. Mister (who is named in the Panola paper as a local gang leader awaiting trial for kidnapping, assault, robbery, etc.) had texted Jessica a few days before her murder.

17. Rachael Tutor <modsnip>

18. Lynnsey Fowler - Friend/worked at Sonic frequently visited by Jessica/Crappie fishing night of incident.

19. Amber Sheilds - HS Friend/with Lynnsey Fowler at incident scene day after.

Jessica was involved in three different churches outside of Batesville and Courtland.
21. Crowder Baptist Church--Rev. Larry Kilgore, 15 miles from Batesville. Jessica confided in him personal information.
22. Charleston Community Church of God--Rev. Eric Greggs, 25 miles from Batesville
23. Pope, Liberty Hill Baptist Church, --Linda Oliver, 7 miles from Batesville Linda Oliver - Spoke at funeral, talked with Jessica about publishing a book about her life.

Unkowns
24. Unknown name - Female gas clerk delivering "chicken" to customers outside of station.
25. Unknown Name – 911 caller
26. Unkown Name – Tow Truck Driver

Timeline
Chambers lost his son in a horrific car accident a couple of years ago.
MSM Source: http://wreg.com/2014/12/07/father-sp...re-and-killed/

Sunday, November 30, 2014 (approx)
Authorities reportedly investigating possible confrontation from a week before Jessica Chambers’ death
PANOLA COUNTY, Miss. – Investigators in the Jessica Chambers case are reportedly exploring the possibility that someone might have aggressively confronted the teenager at a gas station a week before her death.

He [Ali Alsani] told WREG investigators recently returned to his gas station, asking him about a possible altercation in the parking lot involving Chambers a week before she died.
“I told them I wasn’t there that day,” Alsanai said.
Alsanai explained that investigators told him the altercation allegedly happened in the morning sometime about a week before she died.
He said he usually doesn’t work in the mornings, and he didn’t know anything about an attack or fight.
http://wreg.com/2014/12/18/authorit...on-from-a-week-before-jessica-chambers-death/

Saturday, December 6th 2014 approximately 8:15 p.m.
Jessica's car found fully engulfed
According to Panola County Sheriff Dennis Darby, a passing motorist alerted his department and the fire department to the scene. Darby says by the time rescue workers got on the scene the car was fully engulfed in flames. The driver tried to tell rescuers something but she was so badly burned she could not be understood. She was transported to Regional One where she later died
MSM Source: http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/2...ting-death-of-woman-found-burned-near-her-car

Sunday, December 7th 2014 1:39 p.m.
MSM Source: http://wreg.com/2014/12/07/father-sp...re-and-killed/
The sheriff said deputies are on the lookout for two men they believe Jessica may have been with on Saturday night.

Monday, December 8th 2:04 p.m.
MSM Source: http://www.wave3.com/story/27575901/...heinous-murder
Several people are being questioned by detectives, but no arrests have been made. The teen's car, and any potential clues inside, are charred black. Investigators did find a cell phone at the scene. "We do have a phone that we believe is hers and that is what we are attempting to gather the information from," said Hale. Detectives spent Monday going through the phone for clues.

Reporter Mike Clark turns over gas station video evidence to the police department
MSM Source: http://www.wave3.com/clip/10932258/g...bers-last-hour

December 9th 8:51 p.m. - Charlotte Wilkerson Party Statement & Investigation Information
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...victim-before-
"There was a party going on and she was there," said Chambers' acquaintance Charlotte Wilkerson. "When she left the party, that's when it happened to her."There is surveillance video of Chambers at a convenience store near her home a couple of hours before she died. Panola County Deputies watched it and shot video of at least an hour of it, paying attention to any people who walked in and out of the store. Champion says a judge signed an order so investigators can get Chambers' phone records. He expects to receive those Wednesday.

December 10th 9:06 p.m. - Derek Turner officially questioned
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...mbers-released
Thirty-one-year-old Derrick Turner says he was picked up Monday morning and was taken to the Panola County jail where he was questioned in the death of 19-year-old Jessica Chambers. "I was just called in for a situation I didn't know nothing about." Turner said he knew Chambers. "But I don't just know her like that because I'm way older than her. So I've seen her around at stores and everything, but I don't just know her like that." Turner said he was not in Courtland, Mississippi when Chambers was discovered lying next to her car on fire. She died not long after she was found. "They was just asking me did I know her or was I sleeping with her, you know," said Turner. "Like I said, I didn't know her like that."Turner did know, "the times I was around her you know, she carried herself she was a good girl. She was a sweet girl so that's why I'm messed up about it, whatever happened to her, I hate it happened you know. "Turner said investigators never told him why he was being questioned in Jessica Chambers death.

December 10th – Lynnsey Fowler and Amber Shields visit crime scene
MSM Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...fire/20195725/
Lynnsey Fowler and Amber Shields, who said they were close to Jessica Chambers, wanted to see the spot where their friend was attacked.
Fowler kept shaking her head in disbelief as she stared at the charred, rutted ground where Jessica Chambers' car sat after it apparently ran up a slight embankment. Fowler remembers the teen from her sleepovers with her sister.
Fowler said she passed by the scene Saturday on her way to fish for crappie at Enid Lake.
"Sunday morning, I took my phone off the charger and looked at Facebook, like I almost always do, and I saw the Fly High Jessica Chambers page," Fowler said, referring to the digital memorial Chambers' friends and family had set up.
"I got sick to my stomach," Fowler said once she realized what had happened. "I can't believe I didn't see anything when I passed by here. I wish I had. I would have helped her. I would have fought for her if I had to."
Fowler works at the Batesville Sonic Drive-In where Chambers was a frequent customer. She often would order one of those massive Route 44 drinks "that was almost as big as her," Fowler said.
"She was my Sonic baby. She was up there all the time, just all the time," Fowler said. "She always had that smile on her face, always looking in her mirror fixing those eyelashes."
Shields — who, like Fowler, lives close to the crime scene — went to school with Jessica Chambers at South Panola High School where Jessica Chambers graduated in 2013. They hung out there and socially.
"She had fun with life, Shields said. "She was a very likeable person and ready for anything. She got along with everybody."

December 12th 11:09 p.m. - Eric Bibbs officially questioned
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...d-not-know-her
One of the people investigators questioned is Eric Bibbs.
"That day that it happened. I had been here with a toothache since about 6 p.m.," said Bibbs. "I think maybe they came by here about 9:30 p.m., they even went to my grandma address. They called my mom."
Bibbs, a married father, lives just down the road from where Jessica Chambers was discovered horribly burned lying next to her burning car. Investigators say Chambers was able to talk with the first responder. Bibbs says the investigator mentioned to him that Chambers had said the name Derrick or Eric.*"He said there was an accident I think down the road and your name was mentioned," said Bibbs. "And he said I think one of the other people said the only Eric I know in this area is Eric Bibbs."
Bibbs told the detective he did not know Jessica Chambers and wasn't even aware of what had happened to her. The investigator never told him why he was being questioned.

December 16th – Ali Alsania Gas Station Store owner interview
MSM Source: http://www.clarionledger.com/media/c...-to-his-store/

December 19th 6:02 p.m. - Mr. Mister and Rachael Tutor officially questioned
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...cted-next-week
George Mister and Rachael Tutor say they're the latest to be questioned in Jessica Chambers murder.
"They kept us up there for like 6,7,8 hours," said Mister. "I took a lie detector test, I took a swab test."
Investigators wouldn't confirm the pair was questioned, but a jail log shows Mister's name on the date in question.
"They questioned me about a text message that I sent Jessica, two days before, and I guess that was why they may have thought something, I don't know," said Tutor.

December 16th – Ray McClenic reports of suspected vehicle
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...rs-murder-case
"I called the sheriff's department and I told them everything that I knew," said tipster Ray McClenic. "I said, 'What y'all are looking for, I don't know what kind of vehicle.' I said, 'But it's got really, really loud pipes on it.'"
McClenic said he heard a vehicle driving fast down his street the night Jessica Chambers was discovered burning next to her car in Courtland, Mississippi more than one week ago.

December 16th – Ex Boyfriend Bryan Rudd cleared
MSM Source: http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...l-media-claims
One thing is clear, investigators say Jessica's ex-boyfriend is not a suspect, despite what social media is saying.

Friday, December 29th 4:51 p.m. - Cause of death
MSM Source: http://www.clarionledger.com/story/n...ects/21005697/
Chambers was found on Herron Road in Courtland a little after 8 p.m. Dec. 6, walking away from her burning vehicle with burns over 98 percent of her body. Coroner Gracie Gulledge said the cause of the young woman's death was thermal injury. Officials classified Chambers' death as a homicide, but in spite of interviewing what they have said is more than 100 potential witnesses, they say they still have yet to emerge with a prime suspect.
 
Yes....maybe?!

On a positive note, arrests lead to DNA being entered into databases which can assist in linking cases.
Let's hope that forensics will give a little clarity for lady justice.

Moo

Sadly, I am guessing most of these characters already had their DNA in the system for one felony or another, and either DNA from Jessica and her car have not yet come back, or I fear there may have been none recovered.
 
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