MSM coverage of Baby Lisa, 11/4/11

[Michelle129th]

Yes you're right thanks for the link. The interview I watched didn't have Jim Spellman's commentary at the end. Why would they cut that fairly sensational statement out of the interview and then just have the reporter add it at the end? I still wonder if it's media rewording/twisting going on

Forgive me if the link of the mom actually saying it on video is floating around here. I've been trying to follow the case on here for the past 2 weeks and it's quite busy with all the different threads. I'm working my way through them all to avoid asking already asked questions

Michelle

 

[Eileen730]

That depends on which version of the timeline. :angel:

True that lol!

But....I thought i read he came home and found the door unlocked lights on.

He said he checked on the boys... not lisa went in to debs room..

If thats fact i think what really happened was he came home to find the door unlocked and lights on,,, he goes in to debs room and sees the baby dead and Deb drunk and passed out...He runs to check on the boys... does not go to lisa room... gets deb up and moving and they then decide to cover this up..

JMO but food for thought

I really think she maybe rolled over on the baby in her sleep...

 

[norest4thewicked]

I'm also waiting for the 2 new people added to this case today.

 

[DeAnn]

True that lol!

But....I thought i read he came home and found the door unlocked lights on.

He said he checked on the boys... not lisa went in to debs room..

If thats fact i think what really happened was he came home to find the door unlocked and lights on,,, he goes in to debs room and sees the baby dead and Deb drunk and passed out...He runs to check on the boys... does not go to lisa room... gets deb up and moving and they then decide to cover this up..

JMO but food for thought

I really think she maybe rolled over on the baby in her sleep...

Jeremy would literally have 15-20 minutes, 30 minutes tops to cover it up. Can he do such an elaborate coverup that leaves seemingly little evidence during such a brief period of time?

The cops apparently think no, which is why they didn't hone in on him or expect him to take a polygraph in those first days. They believed that he was genuinely traumatized at 4 a.m. and that it was unlikely he could have come home, found her, covered it up and managed to call the cops and sound believeable in 30 minutes or less.

 

[In da Middle]

True that lol!

But....I thought i read he came home and found the door unlocked lights on.

He said he checked on the boys... not lisa went in to debs room..

If thats fact i think what really happened was he came home to find the door unlocked and lights on,,, he goes in to debs room and sees the baby dead and Deb drunk and passed out...He runs to check on the boys... does not go to lisa room... gets deb up and moving and they then decide to cover this up..

JMO but food for thought

I really think she maybe rolled over on the baby in her sleep...

When would he have time to do this??? He is said by LE that he is on tape until 3:30 AT WORK. That does not leave enough time to do all that is needed to be done in that amount of time before calling 911.:waitasec:

 

[Eileen730]

Jeremy would literally have 15-20 minutes, 30 minutes tops to cover it up. Can he do such an elaborate coverup that leaves seemingly little evidence during such a brief period of time?

The cops apparently think no, which is why they didn't hone in on him or expect him to take a polygraph in those first days. They believed that he was genuinely traumatized at 4 a.m. and that it was unlikely he could have come home, found her, covered it up and managed to call the cops and sound believeable in 30 minutes or less.

OH ok!

Thanks i didnt think of that..

 

[Aedrys]

Jeremy would literally have 15-20 minutes, 30 minutes tops to cover it up. Can he do such an elaborate coverup that leaves seemingly little evidence during such a brief period of time?

The cops apparently think no, which is why they didn't hone in on him or expect him to take a polygraph in those first days. They believed that he was genuinely traumatized at 4 a.m. and that it was unlikely he could have come home, found her, covered it up and managed to call the cops and sound believeable in 30 minutes or less.

Is there a link saying that cops don't think he could have done it in thirty minutes? I only ask because you'd be amazed how fast things can be covered up. If Lisa wasn't breathing, and there weren't any or very little bodily fluids, he could have easily picked her up, maybe wrapped her in something, and disposed of her somewhere close that the police haven't found yet, then came back and called the police. Heck, maybe covering it up is what traumatized him the most. I heard the river isn't far from their house. I'm just saying that it's not impossible that he covered this up.

 

[Eileen730]

When would he have time to do this??? He is said by LE that he is on tape until 3:30 AT WORK. That does not leave enough time to do all that is needed to be done in that amount of time before calling 911.:waitasec:

yup not enuff time..
thanks!

 

[JeannaT]

Is there a link saying that cops don't think he could have done it in thirty minutes? I only ask because you'd be amazed how fast things can be covered up. If Lisa wasn't breathing, and there weren't any or very little bodily fluids, he could have easily picked her up, maybe wrapped her in something, and disposed of her somewhere close that the police haven't found yet, then came back and called the police. Heck, maybe covering it up is what traumatized him the most. I heard the river isn't far from their house. I'm just saying that it's not impossible that he covered this up.

Since it appears LE was not interested in polygraphing Jeremy, although they polygraphed others, it seems LE doesn't believe Jeremy is involved.

 

[Eileen730]

Is there a link saying that cops don't think he could have done it in thirty minutes? I only ask because you'd be amazed how fast things can be covered up. If Lisa wasn't breathing, and there weren't any or very little bodily fluids, he could have easily picked her up, maybe wrapped her in something, and disposed of her somewhere close that the police haven't found yet, then came back and called the police. Heck, maybe covering it up is what traumatized him the most. I heard the river isn't far from their house. I'm just saying that it's not impossible that he covered this up.

Actually i agree.
20 or 30 mins is long enough to hide a baby.

 

[DeAnn]

Is there a link saying that cops don't think he could have done it in thirty minutes? I only ask because you'd be amazed how fast things can be covered up. If Lisa wasn't breathing, and there weren't any or very little bodily fluids, he could have easily picked her up, maybe wrapped her in something, and disposed of her somewhere close that the police haven't found yet, then came back and called the police. Heck, maybe covering it up is what traumatized him the most. I heard the river isn't far from their house. I'm just saying that it's not impossible that he covered this up.

The river may be close "as the crow flies" but getting to the river and back via vehicle in the matter of minutes we're talking about re Jeremy is pretty much physically impossible. There are only so many spots that have access to the river via vehicle versus on foot. Yes, access is possible via the casinos but those also have lots of folks coming and going. Maybe someone knows of an access point in the Northland that I don't know of that Jeremy could have gotten to and back in 10 minutes. Sugar Creek's LaBette (sp) is the best spot (that's where I wrongfully thought the Porter children were) but he could not have gotten there and back. He wouldn't have had time to have walked to a remote spot (now someone else would have. I'm referring specifically to Jeremy).

And you really think he comes home, finds his daughter dead, doesn't have lots of questions and literally in a matter of seconds decides to cover it up for his wife or someone else? Doesn't spend any time getting emotional, asking questions etc etc? Neighbors have said they heard him sprinting from his home to Samantha's bellowing tell me you have Lisa.

Nothing is impossible, of course, I just don't see that it's probable.

 

[Aedrys]

Since it appears LE was not interested in polygraphing Jeremy, although they polygraphed others, it seems LE doesn't believe Jeremy is involved.

True, that's a good point. However, the police might be more interested in who actually killed the child, not who covered up for the death. JI might not feel any guilt and not show it because all he did was cover up the death, not actually kill her. I sure hope the police are not overlooking him. And I will be happy to be wrong, believe me.

 

[epiphany]

CaseSignal Case Signal (BeanE)

RT @jimspellmancnn: taking break from reporting on #hln to chase leads. need to nail some things down. Will tweet to warn first #lisairwin
14 minutes ago

 

[Aedrys]

I also wonder if initally she was hidden in one spot, and then maybe moved later, accounting for the disturbed earth in the backyard. It could be that she wasn't put into the river until later. But who knows. This case is so confusing and complex. I just don't want something ruled out and then later on it comes back to bite the case. I would hate to see that happen.

 

[DeAnn]

True, that's a good point. However, the police might be more interested in who actually killed the child, not who covered up for the death. JI might not feel any guilt and not show it because all he did was cover up the death, not actually kill her. I sure hope the police are not overlooking him. And I will be happy to be wrong, believe me.

I hope that the police are actually looking for the child whether alive or dead and pray that she's still alive. Missouri has had miracles before. Elizabeth Smart and Jaycee Duggard went through hell but are alive and back with their families. I pray for another Show-Me State Miracle. I think the police are interested in what happened to baby Lisa. Period.

 

[frankie069]

OMG I just got home and see that there is something about 2 new players in this case. Can someone update me, I was at the hospital all day today with my mom. I am going to try and read as much as I can but I am exhausted. If someone doesnt mind please...

 

[Michelle129th]

I also wonder if initally she was hidden in one spot, and then maybe moved later, accounting for the disturbed earth in the backyard. It could be that she wasn't put into the river until later. But who knows. This case is so confusing and complex. I just don't want something ruled out and then later on it comes back to bite the case. I would hate to see that happen.

I would think if the body was hidden somewhere close by that the dogs would have picked up a scent of that? They had the dogs all over the neighbourhood didn't they? I would think in the matter of 15 mins dad had to not only absorb the entire scenario but to wake up mom and decide what to do and dispose of the body he couldn't have gone too far from home.

Michelle

 

[SyraKelly]

OMG I just got home and see that there is something about 2 new players in this case. Can someone update me, I was at the hospital all day today with my mom. I am going to try and read as much as I can but I am exhausted. If someone doesnt mind please...

The report is coming from a reporter from CNN.But he just tweeted that he needs to nail a few things down before he reports it!

 

[BritsKate]

I also wonder if initally she was hidden in one spot, and then maybe moved later, accounting for the disturbed earth in the backyard. It could be that she wasn't put into the river until later. But who knows. This case is so confusing and complex. I just don't want something ruled out and then later on it comes back to bite the case. I would hate to see that happen.

You could well be right, Aedrys. Your theory fits in with DB's reluctance to go into the backyward...assuming of course that's where the overturned earth was.

 

[luckyme]

OMG I just got home and see that there is something about 2 new players in this case. Can someone update me, I was at the hospital all day today with my mom. I am going to try and read as much as I can but I am exhausted. If someone doesnt mind please...

jimspellmancnn jim spellman
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@Amys1867 yes...2 new charcters added if i can nail a few things down
16 hours ago



jimspellmancnn jim spellman
taking a break from reporting on #hln today to chase leads. Still need to nail some things down. Will tweet to warn first.thanks
27 minutes ago