"My gut feeling is she is OK"

[wallflower67]

The problem that I have with the behavior of the Anthonys is that at NO TIME did they ever make an emotional plea to the kidnappers. This behavior has no excuse. .

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I think they did make one or two pleas, like on day one or two after KC was arrested. Prob to cover KC's butt.

After that, I'm sure they "had a gut feeling" that KC killed her Caylee.

 

[catnron]

My gut feeling is: That if Ca had got off her a.. and searched she would have found the baby 100 feet away, maybe 400 steps, or a 40 second car ride. None of which she did. She did nothing at all to help search . So the lies go on

 

[debs]

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I think they did make one or two pleas, like on day one or two after KC was arrested. Prob to cover KC's butt.

After that, I'm sure they "had a gut feeling" that KC killed her Caylee.

I know what you're talking about. I recall when Cindy came out of the bond hearing and said "We have to find Caylee."

That is a far cry from saying "Please, please give us back our granddaughter. Whoever has her, please give her back. There's a reward. We'll double it if only you'll return Caylee to our family."

You can determine that any variation of this plea would have been acceptable. I never heard one. Ever.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Funny. I keep hearing the words, "There is NO evidence" Cindy A. from the first bond hearing.

 

[txanmom]

Casey doesn't have "feelings" like normal people so this is her pretending to have "maternal instincts" because she has heard other people (probably Cindy) mention them.

didn't she even say this in the jailhouse with lee "mom would know what i mean" or something to that effect?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

didn't she even say this in the jailhouse with lee "mom would know what i mean" or something to that effect?

Yes. She did say that to Lee in the videotaped jailhouse call.

 

[tiredofthis]

It makes me ill to watch Casey tell her parents there is hope when she actually saw Caylee's corpse. She is playing with them.

It shows how selfish and cruel she is.

It's a cruel, sick and twisted game to her. She is laughing on the inside when she tells them Caylee is close.

 

[Anais]

Their position was that Caylee was alive. The arguments can go ad infinitum that the evidence showed that she was not. In all things, I can allow them this blind obsession with avoiding the truth without proof position. I would have a hard time thinking Princess PeePee was gone and that people were going to stop looking for her. Their behavior was to say that she was alive.

The problem that I have with the behavior of the Anthonys is that at NO TIME did they ever make an emotional plea to the kidnappers. This behavior has no excuse. In defense of their desire to believe she is alive, they did nothing other than to gather monies in order to fly hither and yon to get on national television. Tell me one time they traveled to a big city where they didn't also make a press appearance. Point to me the time that they called for people to release their granddaughter. Give me one symbol of being distraught that their granddaughter was kidnapped. I saw plenty of anger and venom toward people saying Caylee was dead. I saw an almost peaceful acceptance that she'd been stolen.

Even in the world of upside-down emotions, this does not make sense.

Debs I so agree with you! The Anthony's never, ever came out and made a direct plea to the so-called kidnappers for the return of Caylee. There were some minor and rather indirect we have to find her type comments but never pleading!

Funny. I keep hearing the words, "There is NO evidence" Cindy A. from the first bond hearing.

You know I have seen CA make this comment many times now over the past few months! It is quite troublesome to me as I would have expected her to be pleading for the return of Caylee instead of evaluating the evidence!

 

[GeorgieFayne]

It's a cruel, sick and twisted game to her. She is laughing on the inside when she tells them Caylee is close.

Agreed...she is enjoying every minute of having her whole family under her thumb.

 

[charo]

yea Casey- the only way Caylees ok is shes out of arms way of YOU- everyone else is suffering- I can only imagine the life she would of had with Casey if she didnt kill her and continued to keep her partying ways up- what a life for Caylee- Maybe the angels felt she would have a better life with them and this happened for a reason, as sad as it is. Can you imagine Caylee going to school and saying "my mom used to take me to the bars, or leave me in a trunk- talk about a traumatized child later on- Heaven knows what her next ordeal in life would of been.

 

[Dr. Pennypacker]

She is very good at it with THEM but they wanted to be fooled. They wanted to believe the lies. A normal family would never have believed any of her lies. There is something very hidden and dark they are all still hiding and I can't put my finger on it yet. ......It may be true what she said about the molestation, but I have a feeling it is much darker than even that.

KC "thought" that her ability to deceive others would carry over to LE, but she was wrong.

True. The whole family operates under this assumption that the BS that they tell each other and subsequently believe,that this modus operandi will work the same way with the general public/LE etc.

 

[kathryann]

As far as I'm concerned Casey was abused. When you give your children everything they want, and not teach them to be independent, and never make them pay consequences for their actions, and when you cover up their bad behaviour you are abusing them.

 

[Tally CIT]

It´s weird that Cindy does call her daughter a sociopath but still she talks about what a good mother she was.

And even if Casey is carrying psychological problems why hasn´t her parents then tried to put her in therapy?



There are some issues that all the therapy in the world will not help, and sociopathy is one of them.

I have a son who I believe is a textbook sociopath. He was never abused, mentally or physically, and was raised up going to church, with loving parents and grandparents. In a nutshell, I spent 18 years trying to figure out why this child would not tell the truth, even when all the evidence in the world pointed out that he was lying. Why could we confront him with this evidence, and STILL be told the lies. It was only about a year ago, when I read up on sociopaths, that I realized that he fit the descriptions, and that it was not something I had done in raising him.

Some people are just wired that way, and NOTHING can change it. (he went to several therapists, spent hours in therapy, was even medicated, we tried everything in our power and he still to this day lies to everyone about everything.)

Also, sociopaths are not about being alone, some sociopaths are the most charming people imaginable.

 

[Clock's Tickin]

It's possilbe. In several instances she talks about Caylee but actually refers to herself, in my opinion. The one that sticks out in my mind is her reply to CA's question, "What do you want to tell Caylee?" The tart mom says, "Mommy loves her. She's the most important thing in the world to me. Tell her to be brave." (not her exact words, but very close) She cries real tears as she says this because these are the words she wants CA to say to her. When one considers the symbiotic nature of the CA/KC/Caylee relationship, it's not so far-fetched.

I'll post more examples later after I've had coffee.

I think you are 100% correct. KC can't stand that, even without Caylee around, Caylee is still the center of attention. She uses her "words"/ "KCspeak" to bring the attention back to herself repeatedly on every visit. There are a lot of not so subtle jabs KC takes at her mother and then almost begging to be acknowledged. The whole ado about the bagels and cream cheese....

But the "She's still OK" is IMO a self directing statement.

 

[GreenEyes727]

Their position was that Caylee was alive. The arguments can go ad infinitum that the evidence showed that she was not. In all things, I can allow them this blind obsession with avoiding the truth without proof position. I would have a hard time thinking Princess PeePee was gone and that people were going to stop looking for her. Their behavior was to say that she was alive.

The problem that I have with the behavior of the Anthonys is that at NO TIME did they ever make an emotional plea to the kidnappers. This behavior has no excuse. In defense of their desire to believe she is alive, they did nothing other than to gather monies in order to fly hither and yon to get on national television. Tell me one time they traveled to a big city where they didn't also make a press appearance. Point to me the time that they called for people to release their granddaughter. Give me one symbol of being distraught that their granddaughter was kidnapped. I saw plenty of anger and venom toward people saying Caylee was dead. I saw an almost peaceful acceptance that she'd been stolen.

Even in the world of upside-down emotions, this does not make sense.

Debs, very well said!

This whole case is so mind-boggling that I think we will all need a trip to the Bahamas when all is said and done. Since a group trip isn't possible, maybe we should all have a Bahama Mama or a Pina Colado together, once the trial is done.

What do you all think of KC's text message to AL on 7/16/08 about "If they find her, guess who is going to spend an eternity in jail?" Initially, I thought it meant that she was telling AL that he knows the person who is responsible for Caylee being missing/dead and therefore he knows the "who" in the text. I had been thinking that it was Cameron for a long time - his nickname - Killa Cam. I thought he came up in my first inkblot about this case. He's in a band called Fuzzy Red Balloons and was a roommate of ALs. He goes to Full Sail with AL. The somewhere between 9:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. sticks out to me because those are the hours that one of the other roommates, perhaps Nathan, said are their school hours. Here's my inkblot with the question: Caylee, who hurt you?

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/HappyChic727/KatieandInkblotforCaylee044.jpg

Wendy Murphy said the other night on Nancy Grace or one of the shows that there is more to Apartment #210 at Sawgrass Apts. I think that can be true. Again, I bring you to the youtube video of the guy who felt the need to state his innocence. He is in the entertainment business. I can't find the video tape at the moment but I have recently posted it. Check it out. The guy's name is Derrick and he lived at Apartment #210 awhile ago. This is him but in a different video:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ddw9699

 

[essies]

yea Casey- the only way Caylees ok is shes out of arms way of YOU- everyone else is suffering- I can only imagine the life she would of had with Casey if she didnt kill her and continued to keep her partying ways up- what a life for Caylee- Maybe the angels felt she would have a better life with them and this happened for a reason, as sad as it is. Can you imagine Caylee going to school and saying "my mom used to take me to the bars, or leave me in a trunk- talk about a traumatized child later on- Heaven knows what her next ordeal in life would of been.

I have often felt this way, but didn't know how to put into words. Perhaps God let her come home early because He knew what her future with KC would have been! However, her short, little life wasn't without purpose. We will all see that Caylee's life has impacted lives around the world. From simpl little things like taking time to give your child/grandchild an extra hug or kiss to perhaps making a grandma or aunt or uncle check out that nagging feeling they have about that child and their parent.
Caylee and all the little ones who have lost their lives,at the hands of a loved one or a complete stranger, have not lost it in vain. RIP CAYLEE:blowkiss:

 

[Lil'E]

The problem that I have with the behavior of the Anthonys is that at NO TIME did they ever make an emotional plea to the kidnappers. This behavior has no excuse. In defense of their desire to believe she is alive, they did nothing other than to gather monies in order to fly hither and yon to get on national television. Tell me one time they traveled to a big city where they didn't also make a press appearance. Point to me the time that they called for people to release their granddaughter. Give me one symbol of being distraught that their granddaughter was kidnapped. I saw plenty of anger and venom toward people saying Caylee was dead. I saw an almost peaceful acceptance that she'd been stolen.

Even in the world of upside-down emotions, this does not make sense.

Hi Debs. This disturbed me as well. I once had a missing young daughter, when the press came to our door I answered it in my tshirt and underwear, no bra and puffy eyes from crying all night and did not think twice about using this opportunity to publically beg form her returned. I never heard this family pleas or see them unkept as I was.

 

[birgitta_ice]

It´s weird that Cindy does call her daughter a sociopath but still she talks about what a good mother she was.

And even if Casey is carrying psychological problems why hasn´t her parents then tried to put her in therapy?



There are some issues that all the therapy in the world will not help, and sociopathy is one of them.

I have a son who I believe is a textbook sociopath. He was never abused, mentally or physically, and was raised up going to church, with loving parents and grandparents. In a nutshell, I spent 18 years trying to figure out why this child would not tell the truth, even when all the evidence in the world pointed out that he was lying. Why could we confront him with this evidence, and STILL be told the lies. It was only about a year ago, when I read up on sociopaths, that I realized that he fit the descriptions, and that it was not something I had done in raising him.

Some people are just wired that way, and NOTHING can change it. (he went to several therapists, spent hours in therapy, was even medicated, we tried everything in our power and he still to this day lies to everyone about everything.)

Also, sociopaths are not about being alone, some sociopaths are the most charming people imaginable.

I see your point, but what I´m trying to pin out with my poor english is that why does Cindy talk that way to the media?

The Anthony family seam to be used to cover up for each chather, why would she be so straight forward about that issue?

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[birgitta_ice]

As far as I'm concerned Casey was abused. When you give your children everything they want, and not teach them to be independent, and never make them pay consequences for their actions, and when you cover up their bad behaviour you are abusing them.

That´s true!


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[inquiringmindz]

There are some issues that all the therapy in the world will not help, and sociopathy is one of them.

I have a son who I believe is a textbook sociopath. He was never abused, mentally or physically, and was raised up going to church, with loving parents and grandparents. In a nutshell, I spent 18 years trying to figure out why this child would not tell the truth, even when all the evidence in the world pointed out that he was lying. Why could we confront him with this evidence, and STILL be told the lies. It was only about a year ago, when I read up on sociopaths, that I realized that he fit the descriptions, and that it was not something I had done in raising him.

Some people are just wired that way, and NOTHING can change it. (he went to several therapists, spent hours in therapy, was even medicated, we tried everything in our power and he still to this day lies to everyone about everything.)

Also, sociopaths are not about being alone, some sociopaths are the most charming people imaginable.

You are exactly right. I knew someone that was a sociopath. He had everyone I knew fooled and appeared to be a caring, loving, fun, easy going person. Unfortunately, it was all a lie - he lied to cover up lies and then lied some more. He wasn't capable of telling the truth - why he felt the need to lie, I'll never know. Therapy didn't help and he had a wonderful family that eventually cut him out of their lives and that didn't even stop him from lying. He just moved somewhere else and started a new set of lies. This person has been across the US telling lies and disrupting lives. It was scary to think not one of those lies, or how the lie affected everyone else, ever bothered him. I never did hate him but sure wish I could have. I felt more sorry for him than anything else because he couldn't feel the pain he caused nor did he care. It was almost like he believed all of his lies and if he thought it didn't happen then it must not have. I hope that makes a bit of sense and gives an inside view to being involved with a sociopath.