Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #10

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Almost all of Nancy's friends' statements say that she didn't have enough money to run the household and needed to borrow money from family and friends. However, not one statement (that I remember) said that THEY gave Nancy money. Just who were these people giving her money then - if not the folks that have filled out affidavits?

Brad also states that he emailed Nancy AND HER FATHER - so that it was obviously very tense there - because he was copying someone else other than her - potentially to prove that he was trying to set up an account for her with a debit card. Did her father call Brad and read him the riot act based on what NC was saying to him and then he started copying him to prove he was trying?

I still find it odd that NC was the one driving the newer / more expensive car. That totally doesn't jibe with what folks are saying about BC.

I also can see that one a single salary - albeit a good one - that money was tight. Private preschool? I saw in the separation agreement that there was a loan against his 401K - not good, AND an increase in the HELOC, AND $45K in cc debt. Nothing points to a crisis driving up these bills temporarily - so it appears to be a trend of living beyond means. Certainly the paintings, and Louis Vuitton purses? Unless he was a pretty high VP level person - that was WAY beyond their means.

I suspect that his employer paid 100% for his MBA.

Lots of exaggeration here. Lots of things that can be verified in BC's statement.

The tension in that house was probably so thick you could cut it with a knife.

A note as to why he CC'd his Father in Law.... I tried to talk to my mother in law at the time because she loved me and her daughter and new the state her daughter was in. I included her in some discussions to help with dealing with my ex wife. I can't even begin to tell you how eerily similar this is to my own hell i went through.
 
Believe me, I've seen people spend 500K a year, on a 250K income. It doesn't matter how much you make, there are ways to go way beyond. The question is???? Who or which one is more incline to overspend? The one earning it, or the one not and waiting for it to be given to them by someone who's in control?...or both?????

We'll likely, never know. Nancy is not here to give her side.

JMHO
fran

Its allot easier to just spend and spend when you are not the one seeing it leave your accounts. I tend to believe from my own experiences and from whats been said that she was over spending which lead to more restricted funds. It's very easily tracked by looking at the credit card bills. Hearing her purse was 1200 dollars and 200 dollar pants and 200 dollar Pedicure, 8 thousand dollar paintings... I tend to believe him on this. She had the nicer newer car, reports she and the girls were always dressed nice...aka 50 dresses for a 2 years old is nuts. So I can see once her spending was controlled it upset her which can lead to over exaggerating complaints to friends. I have been there I have heard it.
 
Forgive me, I'm a little behind. But wanted to comment on the $200 designer jeans and $200 pedi. Which does seem high even in the best of spa's. Anyway, who's to say this was for Nancy?
The affidavit even mentioned that Brad had a tendency to spend lavishly on is girlfriends.
I'm inclined to think that Brad was spending the money on another woman especially since she was not able to use the CC's.
If she had access to them, she'd be using them for groceries and gas.
You never see her decked out, she's always dressed sporty as others have mentioned.
Hardly the high fashion and jewelery shopaholic Brad mentions.
 
They've reached an agreement on custody, but I can't find specifics....
 
Forgive me, I'm a little behind. But wanted to comment on the $200 designer jeans and $200 pedi. Which does seem high even in the best of spa's. Anyway, who's to say this was for Nancy?
The affidavit even mentioned that Brad had a tendency to spend lavishly on is girlfriends.
I'm inclined to think that Brad was spending the money on another woman especially since she was not able to use the CC's.
If she had access to them, she'd be using them for groceries and gas.
You never see her decked out, she's always dressed sporty as others have mentioned.
Hardly the high fashion and jewelery shopaholic Brad mentions.

Well besides that she was seen in the jeans and confirmed the Pedi. The purse that was hers and in her car was 1200. again easily traced by looking at the signatures on the CC slips. He is not going to admit something so traceable if it wasn't true.
 
They've reached an agreement on custody, but I can't find specifics....

They extended the temporary custody. Kids going to Canada. My friends Girlfriend reports for WRAL and is in the court room, he just got a text on his phone from her. No testimony was given.
 
they have reached an agreement regarding custody! per wral
 
The credit card statements would be the proof, though I really don't why they'd matter.



In his rebuttal, he says that he asked her to also prepare a will, but she didn't and he never completed his, then he gives the web addy for the service that he was using. (This actually might be relevant, but most of the rest has very little to do with the crime)

You're right, the credit card statements will be proof. That ought to be interesting.

Well, according to Nancy, she did have a will. The question is, where is it?

Oh, yeah, Brad said she didn't make one up. Since she can't speak for herself, we'll just ASSume he's telling the truth. I'm sure he wouldn't rip it up or anything.:rolleyes:

The will has EVERYTHING to do with custody, IF Nancy did in fact make out one and said she wanted her sister to have the children. She MAY have meant IF both of them died at once. But we'll never know now, will we?

See, I look at it this way, people can believe whatever the husband says as truth. But when there are opposing statements, one must stop and ponder. Why would he lie? Well, because IF he's lying about things that are detrimental to him it's to PROTECT himself, of course.

The first thing is, was he abusive? He says he wasn't. HIS friends and family say he wasn't. OTOH, Nancy's friends and family say he WAS. Whos' telling the truth?

Oh, let's ask Nancy, she would know!

Oh, wait,...........she was MURDERED.

And I believe we have the usual Suspect #1.

While Nancy's case is being investigated, and IF and until he's arrested, Brad doesn't want the judge to have ANOTHER possible reason to leave the kids with Nancy's parents, because first a foremost it would have been the victim's wishes.

No, no, no.

But you know what? I'm not a lawyer, know nothing about the custody laws. But, IMHO, I believe the judge would have given Brad back the kids if he had NOT written one thing and just showed up in court. He didn't have to have all of his friends and family throw their little digs in on the good name of his recently MURDERED wife. IMO, the judge would probably feel better towards him than he most likely will now that he's begun throwing mud on the victim.

JMHO
fran
 
They extended the temporary custody. Kids going to Canada. My friends Girlfriend reports for WRAL and is in the court room, he just got a text on his phone from her. No testimony was given.

Hmmm......

That's interesting.

Thanks for the info!

fran
 
Thanks for that info. I must have missed the post that is was confirmed it was hers. :waitasec:
Wow, definitely changes the looks of things.
 
You're right, the credit card statements will be proof. That ought to be interesting.

Well, according to Nancy, she did have a will. The question is, where is it?

Oh, yeah, Brad said she didn't make one up. Since she can't speak for herself, we'll just ASSume he's telling the truth. I'm sure he wouldn't rip it up or anything.:rolleyes:

The will has EVERYTHING to do with custody, IF Nancy did in fact make out one and said she wanted her sister to have the children. She MAY have meant IF both of them died at once. But we'll never know now, will we?

See, I look at it this way, people can believe whatever the husband says as truth. But when there are opposing statements, one must stop and ponder. Why would he lie? Well, because IF he's lying about things that are detrimental to him it's to PROTECT himself, of course.

The first thing is, was he abusive? He says he wasn't. HIS friends and family say he wasn't. OTOH, Nancy's friends and family say he WAS. Whos' telling the truth?

Oh, let's ask Nancy, she would know!

Oh, wait,...........she was MURDERED.

And I believe we have the usual Suspect #1.

While Nancy's case is being investigated, and IF and until he's arrested, Brad doesn't want the judge to have ANOTHER possible reason to leave the kids with Nancy's parents, because first a foremost it would have been the victim's wishes.

No, no, no.

But you know what? I'm not a lawyer, know nothing about the custody laws. But, IMHO, I believe the judge would have given Brad back the kids if he had NOT written one thing and just showed up in court. He didn't have to have all of his friends and family throw their little digs in on the good name of his recently MURDERED wife. IMO, the judge would probably feel better towards him than he most likely will now that he's begun throwing mud on the victim.

JMHO
fran

Yes but the things he is defending and stating can all be verified by phone records and CC statements. If he is lying its pretty easy to figure out.
 
Forgive me, I'm a little behind. But wanted to comment on the $200 designer jeans and $200 pedi. Which does seem high even in the best of spa's. Anyway, who's to say this was for Nancy?
The affidavit even mentioned that Brad had a tendency to spend lavishly on is girlfriends.
I'm inclined to think that Brad was spending the money on another woman especially since she was not able to use the CC's.
If she had access to them, she'd be using them for groceries and gas.
You never see her decked out, she's always dressed sporty as others have mentioned.
Hardly the high fashion and jewelery shopaholic Brad mentions.

I'll go along with you mom2boys.

He couldn't even buy her a Xmas present last Christmas!

Wonder what he bought himself?:waitasec:

JMHO
fran
 
Just found out the terms of his visitation rights. They have to at the very minimum allow him 4 hours a day on each day of two separate weekends before October 13th. The visits are supervised. He is allowed more if he wants or can. He at the very minimum must be allowed to call them or Web Chat at least 4 times a week. Meaning he can do more but he must be allowed at least that by the Grandparents. These are the minimum.
 
I'll go along with you mom2boys.

He couldn't even buy her a Xmas present last Christmas!

Wonder what he bought himself?:waitasec:

JMHO
fran

So what will you say when the receipts come out and you clearly see her signature making all the purchases?
 
They must have something more than the affidavits from friends, because I can't imagine they would take his children away from everything they know based on hear-say. He may very well be guilty, but based on the info we have been privy to, he should have his kids IMO. It's scary to think someone can take your children away that easily. I hope they have a lot more to base the decision on than we do....I'm actually shocked and sick at the same time. I certainly think he's a bottom feeder, but I'm very unsure about this!!
 
Yes but the things he is defending and stating can all be verified by phone records and CC statements. If he is lying its pretty easy to figure out.

See, this is the way it works. He's thinking that this isn't going to come down to that type of thing. Getting SW or whatever for the CC statements over custody. He's thinking just his word is good enough.

I seem to recall when Scott Peterson, all the way into his trial and used in his defense attorney's opening statement, the witnesses at the marina who worked there saw him, he talked to them, yadda, yadda, yadda...........seriously, the jury was give this in the opening for the def. There were also SEVERAL alleged eye witnesses who SAW Laci that day in the park. THAT was in the opening also.

Did you watch or hear about the trial. The pros was ridiculed for the beginning of their case, boring!!!!

The problem is, people did NOT get it. The pros brought out, witness, after witness, after witness, everyone working at the marina that day. Did they see Scott? NO. NO. NO. NO

Eye witnesses that saw Laci that day. Did they testify for the defense? No, no, no, no.............

You cannot always believe what a liar says. Is Brad a liar? I dunno for sure,.............yet.....

Time will tell.

JMHO
fran
 
They must have something more than the affidavits from friends, because I can't imagine they would take his children away from everything they know based on hear-say. He may very well be guilty, but based on the info we have been privy to, he should have his kids IMO. It's scary to think someone can take your children away that easily. I hope they have a lot more to base the decision on than we do....I'm actually shocked and sick at the same time. I certainly think he's a bottom feeder, but I'm very unsure about this!!

Not knowing all that much about this type of thing, I'm with you. I actually thought he'd get the kids.

There must be some information that isn't in the public, that the judge knows?

curious, really,
fran
 
They must have something more than the affidavits from friends, because I can't imagine they would take his children away from everything they know based on hear-say. He may very well be guilty, but based on the info we have been privy to, he should have his kids IMO. It's scary to think someone can take your children away that easily. I hope they have a lot more to base the decision on than we do....I'm actually shocked and sick at the same time. I certainly think he's a bottom feeder, but I'm very unsure about this!!

After reading everything I believe he should have his kids as well. Think of it this way... its better to do this verse heaven forbid he did something with them. From what I read I don't think he would and I think he should get his girls but I think its easier to scare authorities into being over protective now due to the lack of evidence or knowledge in the case. This is being done out of fear of not knowing much of anything. More so a better safe than sorry.
 
Not knowing all that much about this type of thing, I'm with you. I actually thought he'd get the kids.

There must be some information that isn't in the public, that the judge knows?

curious, really,
fran

It was a public hearing.
 
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