Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #24

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At this point we don't know if they belonged to Brad, Nancy or one of the girls, correct? Or exactly where they were found.
 
raisincharlie said:
From this one can conclude the only warrant seen by Brad and lawyer friend would have been for the residence. Actually, I'm still wondering why the DA wanted these sealed. Very much less incriminating than those in the MY case served on JY. Strange given past performances.
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I wonder the same thing. Why exactly was it deemed appropriate to seal them in the first place? What has changed since now and then to compel the judge to unseal them (surely not just the passing of time, and pressure from the media...)

Side bar: I'm still confused as to whether the person being searched receives a copy of the affidavit or not? If yes, the BC (and attorneys) have had access for some time to LE's view of the 7/12 AM timeline as provided by BC... Otherwise, they are (just as of yesterday) receiving it?
 
raisincharlie said:
Topsail have you had a chance to go through the warrants in detail yet ? In particular, the residence ?
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I have not as of yet. I had things going on with Michelle's case yesterday and will again tomorrow so I'm going to make it my goal to read through the warrants in this case today. Is there something in particular within the residence that I should be mindful of? I plan to print the out for my own use. It just makes it easier for me to have them right in front of me.
 
Topsail Girl said:
I have not as of yet. I had things going on with Michelle's case yesterday and will again tomorrow so I'm going to make it my goal to read through the warrants in this case today. Is there something in particular within the residence that I should be mindful of? I plan to print the out for my own use. It just makes it easier for me to have them right in front of me.
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I can wait for you to have the time to read through it - no problem. Afew things that jumped out for me actually, when viewing the floorplan is where the key to the X5 was found and the collection of the grey seat covers (although there is no location given for these - the floorplan demonstrates a possible location in comparison to where that key was found) Just wondering about your thoughts on that in particular. Unfortunately there is no location given for where Nancy's cell phone was found in the house.
 
raisincharlie said:
Well I have to say ladies wearing dresses to a neighborhood bbq party seems a bit strange to me as well but to each their own. You southern ladies still have that flare for the cotillion. I understand.

Lime green - could be worse :)
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RC, I'm an NCNative born and bred but I'll tell you I managed to choose to escape any and all cotillion/terpsichorean debutante and otherwise activities. My mom did make me take ballroom dance classes which included social graces, along with lessons on how not to sit while wearing a dress. (Ankles crossed, knees together so as not to preview the family jewels to any leering males of the 12 year old set.) We 12 year olds didn't give a rip at those lessons. We went for the prissy snacks and an excuse to meet boys. In the 1960s we girls had to wear dressed to school.

Some folks come down here to live, thinking that they will become one with the southern culture. The have the "verisimilitudes" going on in their minds about the appearances they should put forth in order to fit in. They may go and purchase Rainbow flip flops, rent beach cottages in Nags Head or Bald Head, put their kiddies in Ravenscroft, live in John Edwards' old Raleigh neighborhood and vie for their daughter's spot as a deb once she's gotten into Saint Mary's School, Peace or "Carolina". It just doesn't get past us natives though. We see through it. Besides, I never wanted the debutante thing, went to Meredith and NCSU, and forgot about my manners when I ate at Big Ed's and Mamma Dips. To that I'll add: who needs lip gloss when there's plenty of fried chicken grease left over from lunch?
 
Do children wear Rainbows?

FWIW, the rainbows were found in Brad's car. SW items 26 through 33 are from the 2001 BMW.

Did you all notice item 31?

"31. Trunk floor (2001 BMW)"

:eek:

fran
 
fran said:
Do children wear Rainbows?

FWIW, the rainbows were found in Brad's car. SW items 26 through 33 are from the 2001 BMW.

Did you all notice item 31?

"31. Trunk floor (2001 BMW)"

:eek:

fran
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Fran,

I'm not convinced the flip flops were found in Brad's car. If you will note - in the inventory LE has been very meticulous in identifying samples and collections from the 325 i by stating (2001 BMW, _______). I do not think the flip flops were taken from the car. JMO
 
I wonder which item of children's clothing they took and if it was for Bella or Katie?

I'm very curious about the 'piece of green plastic' that they sealed in an envelope.
 
ncnative said:
RC, I'm an NCNative born and bred but I'll tell you I managed to choose to escape any and all cotillion/terpsichorean debutante and otherwise activities. My mom did make me take ballroom dance classes which included social graces, along with lessons on how not to sit while wearing a dress. (Ankles crossed, knees together so as not to preview the family jewels to any leering males of the 12 year old set.) We 12 year olds didn't give a rip at those lessons. We went for the prissy snacks and an excuse to meet boys. In the 1960s we girls had to wear dressed to school.
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OMyGoodness!

I'd forgotten all about the ballroom dance classes. We took them here in California too.

Of course, the classes didn't help much by the time we got old enough to go out dancing by ourselves and the 'surfer stomp' was the most popular dance around So. California. :crazy:

fran
 
raisincharlie said:
Fran,

I'm not convinced the flip flops were found in Brad's car. If you will note - in the inventory LE has been very meticulous in identifying samples and collections from the 325 i by stating (2001 BMW, _______). I do not think the flip flops were taken from the car. JMO
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You may be correct RC, as they were the last item there.....Or it could be they weren't sure who's they were and what relevance they had.

I still think it's interesting the 'trunk floor,' though.

fran
 
fran said:
You may be correct RC, as they were the last item there.....Or it could be they weren't sure who's they were and what relevance they had.

I still think it's interesting the 'trunk floor,' though.

fran
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Yes, the trunk floor is interesting. Also interesting that there was no odor of gasoline, cleaning products, or fragrance in the boot when LE looked in it that weekend. I wonder if there was a difference noted in the boot when the warrant was executed though. Something is saying there was a difference IMO.
 
wondering about the unidentified dried stain on the sheet........... if it had been blood, don'tcha think BC would have done something about it? Wonder just what it was....and why the mad launderer hadn't taken care of it???
 
Star12 said:
wondering about the unidentified dried stain on the sheet........... if it had been blood, don'tcha think BC would have done something about it? Wonder just what it was....and why the mad launderer hadn't taken care of it???
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Yes Star, that caught my attention too. Then again, Brad may not be disposed to noticing 'stains on sheets' since he has no problem sleeping in his yellow/brown ones. :eek:
 
The dog that found the body could have easily wandered down the path that lead to the berm and got behind the silt fence to sniff the body. The depth of the water could vary at times from completely dry to several feet depending on the amount of rain, evaporation etc. Heavy unconscious firemen are carried out of buildings all the time during actual training or real fires. BC would have tremendous upper body strength from swimming. I wonder if she came into the house by the side garage door and he was waiting for her and hit her with the car just to knock her down so he could render other blows easily. He could have thought that this might prove the "hit by a car while running" theory. This might explain the hair under the car. Long ago I said I thought he might have dumped her over the silt fence in order to be more out of site and she crawled into the water instead of out of it. Or she just couldn't maintain consciousness long enough to get out of the water maybe due to head injury. I really admire all of the thought that has been tossed out on this site. Ya'll are really a bunch of verrrry smart sleuthers.
 
Star12 said:
LOL!!! I was just going to google rainbows -- I'm soooo out of fashion -- I've been wearing crocs all summer! (dang - $80 for a pair of flip flops. I like shoes, but that's more than I would pay for flip flops!!!)

And verisimilitude -- :saythat: sorry......"the appearance or semblance of truth; likelihood; probability: The play lacked verisimilitude."
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I was going to buy a pair of Crocs but they are so d**m ugly. (no offense, star) But when I read they get stuck in escalators, that sealed it for me.
 
I'd be curious if the dress LE confiscated had been recently laundered.

IMO, it's significant they took dna samples from the door knob, driver side, inside and out, of Brad's car. Wonder if Nancy's dna is mixed up there?

I know each one of these items don't point toward guilt on Brad's part. However, IMO, IF LE is able to find enough of these 'evidence' items, they COULD point to guilt. Like a big puzzle, putting them all together pointing to MURDER.

Bet Brad has been frantically looking all over the internet the past 24 hours and is NOT like the headlines.

JMHO
fran
 
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