Nancy Grace - Friday 11/14/08 (Anthony's Cancelled.)

[kaelieanne]

Maybe he's having a breakdown over this whole thing.

I've been fearing that myself.

 

[sweetmop]

I know about that but he didn't say he was sorry or wrong when he called.

I thought that was his way of apologizing.

 

[Ocean Lover]

KC's car still reeks!!!!!

I've said this before but they should put all of the A's in the car and close the windows. No potty breaks, etc until someone tells something or makes someone else confess.

Wonder why the A's cancelled. I never heard her say.

 

[SuziQ]

I've been pondering lately those four cameras at the Amscot, and what they may have captured when Casey parked her car next to their dumpster.

It does seem as if LE could be more actively searching in areas where Casey may have disposed of Caylee. So why aren't they?

Certainly resources would be a big issue, but they could have had small search teams systematically going through the ping areas for weeks.

Makes me wonder why they haven't - do they know something we don't? Did they hint to Tim Miller what they know? (We know they wouldn't tell Leonard - he blabs.)

Lol, I just saw your post after I posted mine. Great minds think alike and all that.

 

[Busylady]

I have realistic expectations as well. IMO he misled people on what his intentions were, couldnt even bother to complete the search areas that he had made a comittment to search. Went on national TV bashing someone who at least kept their word and continue to look for Caylee. I had dealt with TES over a year ago, and thought things had maybe changed and been straightened out so I donated to his organizaton again to search for Caylee boy I was wrong.

Did you feel like you were promised a search that guaranteed Caylee's remains would be found? I never got the sense that there were any guarantees, I hoped for the best and I feel extremely sad that Caylee is still out there somewhere and we can't find her but it's not the fault of TM. I guess I had realistic expectations and therefore I don't need to take my disappointment out on TM. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst. It makes all disappointments in life a little easier to take.

 

[Lovejac]

Sorry...but no...no he did not. He did not take responsibility for anything nor did he apologize.

I just hit rewind on the DVR. Listened more carefully, you are right, he did not specifically apologize. I am a sucker (I admit) when confronted with tears.

A point I would make though is I don't believe that Tim has ever encountered a family like this before, not to mention a strong BH, spokesperson, PR, and on and on and on. He should have just searched and stayed away from all of this......craziness. But as I mentioned, I feel, as a whole, he has helped more people in his lifetime than hurt. Of course that is just my opinion and you know how much I value yours!:blowkiss:

 

[SuziQ]

What miffed me is Tim saying something like everyone needs go get control of their emotions. Imo, he's the one having the problem.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't remember reading you got into trouble for trying to assist but then, I don't read everything here, or I'd never have a life. What happened, or can you point us to your original post. please?

I thought about making the 600 mile trek to help out, but when I checked the TES website, they made it clear (to me) they really wanted experienced searchers (which I'm not) who could be leaders, plus they needed people with pickup trucks (which I don't have). I also remembered how they pulled out the first time without any notice and thought I couldn't possibly go for just one and a half days! I'd plan to stay a while since I'd be coming from a few states away. Then, again, I heard the search was abruptly halted after one and a half days! WTH? It's those inconsistencies between TM's statements and his performance that cause confusion.

While I don't have experience searching for bodies or remains, I do have experience in swamps dodging alligators and snakes.

There wasn't a post about it as I was on Murt's site and got yelled at by Murt (who had obviously gotten chewed out by someone else!).

TES was requesting more food as there wasn't enough coming in to feed the searchers lunch and we already knew that the number of volunteers was way under expectations for Saturday (they were requesting more). They indicated the need was immediate. IIRC, there were posts about that on here.

My first thought was how to make it happen fast...and my second thought was radio stations. So I asked people call them to request they mention the need for both. Boy...did I ever get yelled at for that suggestion!! You would have thought I had called in the National Guard without asking the Governor or something. What I thought was filling an immediate need was obviously not what they wanted at all! I guess instead...they wanted us to cough up the money as we had been doing to buy sandwiches, pizzas, etc. and to get off our @sses to fly down to search (at least...it is certainly the way it made me feel.) Never will I offer to help again! I don't do things half-@ssed and to me it made perfect sense to go straight to the public for those requests. When someone asks that an immediate need be filled...I fill it any way I can. If they don't want it...why ask in the first place?! :furious:

 

[LI_Mom]

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Ya like when she answers the question posed to her by Detectives, Did you sell your daughter, she gets reallly upset and defensive "If really wanted to get rid of my daughter.....". When she is asked if she "did something to Caylee" she just answers very calmly "no sir".

She probably gets upset because it's NOT true & she is angry that she's being blamed for something she's innocent of. She even told us she didn't want to go to LE because she was afraid they'd "pin it on" her.

She's calm when questioned about what she DID do because she's been expecting that question from the very beginning....

"Did you do something to your daughter?" is a pretty typical question in EVERY missing child case, isn't it?

 

[Zoe Bogart]

A point I would make though is I don't believe that Tim has ever encountered a family like this before, not to mention a strong BH, spokesperson, PR, and on and on and on. He should have just searched and stayed away from all of this......craziness. But as I mentioned, I feel, as a whole, he has helped more people in his lifetime than hurt. Of course that is just my opinion and you know how much I value yours!:blowkiss:

I have to agree with you, Lovejac, this is probably the first family TM has encountered who really DIDN'T want a baby's body found. Add in all the media hoopla and an 'unusual' character here and there, I think it probably took him by surprise - or shock. Every time he said he was going to look for Caylee, Cindy was on the tube blasting him and obstructing the LE investigation. I wouldn't be shocked if the poor man went hide in a cave somewhere trying to get that woman's excessive criticizing out of his head.

 

[Lovejac]

There wasn't a post about it as I was on Murt's site and got yelled at by Murt (who had obviously gotten chewed out by someone else!).

TES was requesting more food as there wasn't enough coming in to feed the searchers lunch and we already knew that the number of volunteers was way under expectations for Saturday (they were requesting more). They indicated the need was immediate. IIRC, there were posts about that on here.

My first thought was how to make it happen fast...and my second thought was radio stations. So I asked people call them to request they mention the need for both. Boy...did I ever get yelled at for that suggestion!! You would have thought I had called in the National Guard without asking the President or something. What I thought was filling an immediate need was obviously not what they wanted at all! I guess instead...they wanted us to cough up the money as we had been doing to buy sandwiches, pizzas, etc. and to get off our @sses to fly down to search (at least...it is certainly the way it made me feel.) Never will I offer to help again! I don't do things half-@ssed and to me it made perfect sense to go straight to the public for those requests. When someone asks that an immediate need be filled...I fill it any way I can. If they don't want it...why ask in the first place?! :furious:

SS, that is awful! This is the first I am hearing of this. WTH, I am so sorry that happened to you, totally uncalled for.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

SS, that is awful! This is the first I am hearing of this. WTH, I am so sorry that happened to you, totally uncalled for.

Thanks, Lovejac. I was very discouraged to be yelled at for trying to help. I thought it was a good idea at the time. I certainly won't make that mistake twice.

 

[Sammi99]

I have realistic expectations as well. IMO he misled people on what his intentions were, couldnt even bother to complete the search areas that he had made a comittment to search. Went on national TV bashing someone who at least kept their word and continue to look for Caylee. I had dealt with TES over a year ago, and thought things had maybe changed and been straightened out so I donated to his organizaton again to search for Caylee boy I was wrong.

I believe TM was doomed from the start. He was put under intense pressure, under a microscope, the # of searchers he counted on never materialized, dealing with a wacky family, expectations from people who are emotionally invested in this case, and the magnitude of the task of finding a little girl in a huge area. Well the search was unsuccessful, let's bash him now. The A's will love that people are ripping him apart, let's give them what they want. LP should be commended for searching and TM criticizing him was wrong but I can understand his frustration. I guess we just all need to stop pointing fingers when things don't go the way we wanted.

 

[Reality Orlando]

Didn't someone say (somewhere here) that there were no hits on the As' EZPass. I find that really odd. Any local here to verify that GA would have definitely gone through a toll plaza?

408 is definitely a toll plaza. There is a toll right around the Lake Underhill exit which would be S. Conway Rd. Exit. If he had Epass and was on the 408 for over a mile or two, he would have definitely hit at least one toll.

 

[OneLostGrl]

I thought that was his way of apologizing.

I guess it very well could be. Everyone says sorry in their own way.

 

[sweetmop]

Did anyone ever hear why the Anthonys canceled with Nancy Grace for tonight's show?

 

[cyberborg]

IMO Tim has been hearing from people (?) and just might realize now he has been played....?

I think so

 

[LI_Mom]

What miffed me is Tim saying something like everyone needs go get control of their emotions. Imo, he's the one having the problem.

He's been TOO personally involved with the very dysfunctional psycho dynamics of this crazy case.... he's trying to work around a VERY ungrateful & nasty family & uphold his end of the bargain at the same time.

I think he should just move on completely & concentrate on searches where the families COOPERATE.... before this destroys him & his organization.

This case has never been & will never be "all about Caylee." That's sad but it's the truth.

I don't care how many times we hear it OR who says it.... it's become little more than an empty phrase.


LP has a better ability to deal with the search than Tim at this point because he's not relating to the very ungrateful grandparents as one victim to another.

LP doesn't have to let the Anthony's feelings get in his way.... he gives what he gets..... he can laugh them off or curse them out & still focus on Caylee.

 

[kaelieanne]

:clap::clap: Totally agree :clap::clap:

To me, for TM to call into the show and try to make ammends -- I applaud him :clap: I can forgive him :clap: He is/was more of a man than most.

It wasn't easy for him to do that and he was obviously very emotional about it -- I can respect that.

He is under an immense amount of strain and folks are pulling him in different directions and also abusing him, to their own evil dastardly ends. There has been a lot of manipulation recently and we should move on and get the focus back on Caylee -- as TM said.

TM did the wrong thing but, to me he has apologized and I am willing to forget it, cut him a break and put it behind me. I love TM!! :blowkiss:

I absolutely, completely and totally agree with you Cy!!

 

[sweetmop]

I guess it very well could be. Everyone says sorry in their own way.

Well that's not an appropriate apology, I don't think so anyway, but...
My ex also apologized like that also, without ever saying " I'm sorry " lol!