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Caylee was so adorable I really wonder who the father is. It stands to reason he would be a good guy, she had to get her goodness from someone...
I agree. Her 'goodness' sure didn't come from the maternal side.
 
Against popular opinion, I do not trust JG at all. I realize people deal differently with grief, but if I were truly grieving about Caylee as much as he attempted to act like he was, I sure wouldn't be appearing on NG. I would be at home crying.
I don't think JG had anything to do with Caylee's sad demise, I just can't see a reason to appear on NG other than to be in the spotlight.
 
:clap: Thats bothered me from the start....I think the timeline is much narrower and the death may have occured in the house...maybe or in the car not long after she left.

IMO it's going to be VERY close to the big fight....and another reason for the grandparents to go all out defensive to the point of fantasy.

I think Caylee's death WAS a direct result of that fight...the duct taping, the wrapping the head...was rage as another poster pointed out.

Now, since it's in the teens here & snowing...how do I get to FL for the first trial and be on the jury?

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:clap: Thats bothered me from the start....I think the timeline is much narrower and the death may have occured in the house...maybe or in the car not long after she left.

I was thinking this too or her death happened in the backyard.Did George say he saw Casey and Caylee the next morning before they disappeared?
 
Against popular opinion, I do not trust JG at all. I realize people deal differently with grief, but if I were truly grieving about Caylee as much as he attempted to act like he was, I sure wouldn't be appearing on NG. I would be at home crying.
I don't think JG had anything to do with Caylee's sad demise, I just can't see a reason to appear on NG other than to be in the spotlight.

I think if there was a memorial and gathering of the people that loved Caylee, private or public, he would be saying these things there instead of on TV. His reputation has been maligned. He is grieving, and as with everything in this case nothing is normal. A body is found and no one sets aside their differences and comes together as a group. No funeral can be or is planned. I don't find it fair to judge peoples reactions in grief, but I think this situation really takes the cake on their being a wide range of acceptable responses.
 
I am a Grandmother, and I have said to my Granchildren..."come to Mama" but I correct it really fast to Grandma. But how many more of us out there have ever done the same thing? Jesse is stating all over the airwaves that Cindy referred to herself as "Mama". But that is not enough information to think she did it all of the time, and it was not a slip of the tongue.

I've got a 1yr old granddaughter that lives with me. She calls us ALL Mama, and we all respond. I do the Mama..err Grandma all the time!!
 
Poor wee Jessie. He just cant seem to grasp that he got played. The "KC he knew" was an ACT. Did not exist. She just saw her mark and she latched right on.

Had RG not insisted on the DNA test, I can see Jessie being left at home constatly looking after Caylee while KC went out on her "photography" assignments. Jessie would have been treated like CA and GA were. Duped into providing money, housing, babysitting serves etc.
She wanted to escape CA and GA and was looking for a way out, but not before she found someone who could keep her in the manner to which she had become accustomed.

RG threw a spanner in her works when he convinced Jessie to get the paternity test and then KC decided to punish him for it. I believe she was making a statement - "Ok so you dont believe you are her Daddy? YOU DARE TO QUESTION ME?" and that was it. Jessie was cut off. Thats what KC does to people who dont tow the line. Case in point, (to Lee during first jailhouse visits) "And dont even f'ing BOTHER coming up here for my bond hearing..." after seeing CA's "cameo's".

Oh what a punishment. Being denied the wonderful glow of being in KC presence. *snort*

Bolded by me - if that would've happen, Caylee would still be alive!
 
Thank you very much.This is a great help.I was brought up in Orlando Florida.I was wondering Do you know where in Orange County they lived?

I personally have no idea. I am Texas born and raised. I have only been to Tampa and even that was YEARS ago.
 
I personally have no idea. I am Texas born and raised. I have only been to Tampa and even that was YEARS ago.

Ok,Thank you.Is says Casey went to Colonial High School?I was just wondering if they were still in that area when this happened.
 
Yes, they still live in that area. I believe the house is actually right near Chickasaw and Surburban... not too far from the Lee Vista area.
 
Hi,

I have not had a chance to read through the whole thread. I do think last nights NG, it was a BOMBSHELL when JG said the reason they broke off their engagement was b/c KC thought JG loved Caylee more than her. I mean psycho! That is why she probably killed Caylee. B/C CA felt the same way. She has real attention problems.

I cant wait to hear more about the naughty photos found on her computer and why she was looking up escort sites and what she was doing for "work"
 
This situation is so shockingly similar to one in my own family-minus the murder. My ex SIL is just like KC. Totally narcissistic and sociopathic. When I learn more about KC I am shocked at how similar she is to my ex-sil. And CA is to my ex sil's mother. They're very alike too. Now that I think about it, there seem to be a lot of sociopathic people in my family. Anyway...

LIke JG said last night on NG, once KC thought he loved Caylee more than her, she left.

KC is the center of her universe-not Caylee. I don't think she put a lot of thought into it-these socio's are very shallow people. She wasn't the light of his life anymore and she wasn't getting what she needed from him.

While pregnant, she couldn't party and carry on like she wanted to. But she needed someone's attention focused on HER. JG seems like he met that need and was very sweet to her. Once the baby came and she slimmed down, the baby was getting JG's attention and she was ready to leave.

It's irritating to me that she left him-he loved the baby like his own and seemed so ready to be a daddy and husband. Same thing with my ex sil-my brother would've been so good to her and for her, but nope. She also had a baby girl from another man and my brother loved her as his own. Today, she's 15 years old and prefers to live with him (b/c she said her mother is too crazy) and he actually has legal custody of her-a child that isn't his biologically. Which is something everyone told us couldn't be done.

It's so hard to understand sociopathic behavior because they are so different than anyone else. They wear many hats and play many roles. They "morph" into whatever they think YOU want them to become. They are very good con artists. JG probably is remembering their good times and is definitely grieving the loss of Caylee. I felt bad for him last night. I hope he finds a nice girl.
 
Hi,

I have not had a chance to read through the whole thread. I do think last nights NG, it was a BOMBSHELL when JG said the reason they broke off their engagement was b/c KC thought JG loved Caylee more than her. I mean psycho! That is why she probably killed Caylee. B/C CA felt the same way. She has real attention problems.

I cant wait to hear more about the naughty photos found on her computer and why she was looking up escort sites and what she was doing for "work"


Bingo!! My eyes flew open WIDE when he said that!! Now I get it. Casey can't stand anyone stealing her thunder!!
 
those were my thoughts exactly. Something happened to her shortly after Caylee was born.

From all that I've read and heard and some of the statements by her former friends, I think Casey started to change when she got into this last group of friends, including Tony L., and started hanging out at Fusian. This is what Jesse and his father says as well... that the Casey who is sitting in jail is not the same Casey they knew when Caylee was born and for the first year or two of Caylee's life. The friends she went to school with pretty much say the same thing. I'm in no way blaming anyone else, new or old friends... but I think the change started in the past year, maybe a few months before Caylee died... not right after she was born. Maybe that is why her parents found it so hard to accept that Casey could hurt Caylee. They couldn't accept the "new" Casey.
 
I think he proved himself a decent young man long ago. :) They tried to throw him under the bus and it didn't work because the truth prevails.

As for the interviews, he is highly emotional and it is heartbreaking to watch. It is possible he thought getting it out at this point may be theraputic for him as well for others. For many people, it's important and even healing to expose feelings of grief; to express the what if's and why's, and how much it hurts that a loved one is no longer here. He adored Caylee, and knows she is loved and mourned all over the world- it makes sense to me that he would share it with others.

My heart aches for Jesse. I see a sensitive young man who is wracked with heartache and confusion. He will heal, but he will never be the same. Casey has destroyed so many lives.


Like you, I find Jesse's interviews heart-wrenching. It makes sense to me also that he would choose to share. Jesse's sincerity also gives others someone to identify with when they are filled with sorrow for the loss of a little girl who touched many lives - and not just through her loss.

We will never know how her family grieves, but JG gives a focal point for sending very specific, heartfelt wishes for comfort.
 
Trying here again....if KC is innocent...what concern does anyone have...her, her parents, her lawyers, if she goes to the funeral?
 

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