janewall
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It would seem very probable to me that ALL the kids in those programs have mental health challenges, behavioral issues, or emotional struggles. It's what those "camps" are for. Otherwise, you send your kids to regular camp.
I would say, kids who don't have trouble with severe issues might be okay with some kinds of deprivation (e.g. no showers) for extended periods in the name of fun. We certainly were, when I was at camp. It was a kind of group bonding thing, too. Also, there are groups of young people with State-run CCC's who go to wilderness locations for extended periods for e.g. for trail repair, and it's kind of a thing with them, too (those seem to be good programs, BTW). They get super dirty (no showers for weeks at a time, stinky, no laundry, etc) and very bonded IMO.
But IMO there's a limit to the challenges you'd want to present to already challenged kids. And they might not be able to bond with each other at all because they just can't with anyone. It would seem to me, letting them have showers every day, enjoying some hot water, and maybe clean clothes....then you can work on the other stuff. But inducing a huge amount of unnecessary discomfort, along with the discomfort of whatever the therapy camp imposes as far as treatment, is way too much. It's the least you can do to provide troubled kids with some creature comforts that provide basic human pleasure. I mean, why treat them like Neanderthals?
I assume this Carolina Trails camp doesn't use heated cabins (it's likely a summertime camp they lease in winter). Although it looks like a beautiful setting, it's bloody cold this time of year! And they've had WEATHER this year. Why, oh, why, would they impose this on troubled kids?
I stayed at a resort just a couple of miles down the road from Lake Toxaway for a long weekend a few years back, in early November. I was not aware of this camp's proximity at the time. I also can't find its location on Google Maps or Google Earth - in fact searching for Trails Carolina leads to a location in Asheville NC approximately 50 miles from the lake, presumably an administrative center. I find this seemingly deliberate lack of transparency/concealment of the actual camp property to be deceptive and a bit troubling.
I can say Lake Toxaway lies in in a very rural area, sparsely populated year-round aside from tiny hamlets, located in rugged terrain (the foothills of the Great Smoky Mountains). Much of the surrounding territory is national or state park or forest land. Wildlife abounds, including bears, and it was freezing cold every night we were there. If these kids are out in the woods at night with just a tarp and their clothes for protection, that's not just deprivation - it's neglect and abuse. IMO it also demonstrates depraved indifference by the camp to the well-being of displaced and isolated troubled children who have been entrusted to the camp's care by their guardians, and thus have no agency to help themselves even if they could find their way to an adult who would assist them.
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