NC - Erica Lynn Parsons, 13, Rowan County, 19 Nov 2011 - #3

[Ascha]

Parsons led through special entrance at Rowan Co. DSS for custody meeting

 

[graush26]

Basically, what I'm hearing is that Casey is now saying that she was lied to by Nan about everything (except the part about Carolyn being the intermediary). Do you see my point?

 

[prima.facie]

Do we have to keep calling her Nan? Even CP doesn't believe what she was told anymore. Can we just call her "the Facebook Granny"? Or the Seenior sitizin slooth?

how about "imaginary being"....

 

[prima.facie]

Nan is the name referenced in all MSM articles which we have to cite.
Personally I see no benefit to using other fake names ...
I am not into the whole ridiculing people aspect.
I think it is more appropriate to be serious when discussing a serious topic like a missing child.

Law Enforcement has said "there is no Nan". Therefore, I do not believe there is a nan except in the lies of casey.

Im not sure how long you have been active here, but many members here like to lighten such serious topics with a bit of humour now and then as it is how many cope with tragedies.. It is NORMAL here and it is appreciated by many.

 

[prima.facie]

I am very serious. MSM has said that Nan is not a real person. By continuing to refer to Nan gives credence to the story. There is no Nan. Everyone involved has agreed. We do know that Casey has met a woman in her late 70s, early 80s on Facebook and in person. We also have been told that this senior citizen convinced an adult through detail of numerous related people, that she was someone that she is not. I am making a point and not ridiculing anyone...much.

actually to be factual we do NOT know that casey ever met anybody in person who helped develop her fictional nan story. there is zero evidence of this...just the words of casey and sandy who are about as reliable as a dog giving testimony.


<modsnip> I have no problem ridiculing adults who adopted a child and have treated her they way they have and continue to do so. these people didn't give a sh.t about Erica and they STILL don't!!!!!!!!!!!!! but they sure did give a crap about the money she could create for them.

 

[bigflaw]

The fact is, nobody in their right mind would leave a child with someone they met on Facebook. Whether they are a relative or not, how would you know that you weren't sending the child to live in squalor? Additionally, who in their right mind takes custody of a child and then fails to seek state funding due to that child. This is a murder investigation, through and through. The authorities aren't going to charge them until they have enough evidence to get a grand jury indictment, and unfortunately, lying to the authorities is probably not enough to do that. I believe they are truly treating this as a murder investigation and they are taking their time to discover evidence and (ideally) to get a confession of one or both of them.

 

[beach]

Admin Note:

I've been removing some unnecessarily rude posts. Cut it out now.

Agree to disagree. Scroll & roll. Whatever, but stop the personal insults and attacks.

If I see anymore after this warning, lengthy TOs will be forthcoming.

 

[Esquire]

It still does not mean she truly does have direct knowledge about Erica's disappearance, though. All it means is she has been accused of having knowledge by the Parsons. Big difference.

True. I would have stopped talking about this a long time ago, I did not have to point out ad nauseum that she was named as someone with knowledge.

 

[ACandyRose]

Regarding the statement on Carolyn's Facebook page that she never introduced Casey and Sandy to "Nan", when that was first posted here, I asked how people know this. See, I am not her friend, and I do not see that on her page. grausch26 posted that he saw it on her Facebook page, and I asked if he was her friend and is that how folks are seeing her facebook page. I don't recall ever seeing an answer to that.

It's not that I am disputing she put it on there, it is just I am trying to rely on what I see and hear myself in trying to figure out what happened. I have heard through reporters and their attorney that the Parsons name Carolyn as someone with direct knowledge with Erica leaving. I saw Carolyn on camera being asked that question and she responds by saying Irene Goodman has been dead for 5 years. I have not heard her directly say the Parsons are lying, I had nothing to do with introducing them to a person with whom Erica went to live. I'd like to see her exact words on Facebook.

So, how do I see her Facebook page?

The post that Carolyn Parsons made on her Facebook is on her "public" section. Anybody can read it. I'm not her friend on Facebook but I can read it.

Unfortunately we can't post exact quotes from Facebook here on Websleuths, and this quote written by Carolyn, in my opinion, should not be paraphrased.

So if you still can't read it directly on Carolyn's Facebook then if are willing to go to my webpage link (see below), and go to the directory link for "Erica Parsons Timeline - August 1-15, 2013" and scroll down to August 7, 2013, and you can see a screen capture that I took of that posting Carolyn made.

Hope this helps.

 

[ACandyRose]

Also this was from an interview that Carolyn Parsons gave the MSM back on August 8, 2013:

(screen captures done by me)

http://salisbury.wbtv.com/news/news/107112-missing-teens-parents-weve-done-nothing-wrong

"Carolyn Parsons (On The Phone): "She is my biological daughter. I am very very concerned for her safety. I'm very concerned about her whereabouts. I want her to know that I do still love her. I do care what happens to her. I always have and I always will."

Carolyn Parsons (On The Phone): "Call somebody. Call Rowan County. If the only thing you can think to do is pick up the phone and call 911 --- call 911 --- call anybody."

Carolyn Parsons (On The Phone): "Don't not do anything. This is a kid. This is my kid. Imagine if it was you. How would you feel. I feel like I'm in some body's nightmare and they will not wake up and let me out."

ACR

 

[2rose]

Hey those in NC ... about 30 minutes ago channel 14 tv announced
an update on the hearing coming up soon ... anybody catch what it said ?

http://www.wsoctv.com/videos/news/parsons-led-through-special-entrance-at-rowan-co/vCCKJq/

video of Parsons led through special entrance at Rowan Co. DSS for custody meeting

Later this month, a trial is scheduled in juvenile court where other family members are expected to testify about custody rights.

from http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/parsons-led-through-special-entrance-rowan-co-dss-/nZtjJ/

 

[ACandyRose]

Well, I appreciate you sharing that, but I have seen that, too. What I am looking for is the Facebook message reportedly denying the claims by the Parsons that Carolyn had a part in the introduction of "Nan." Is there another post she made privately? Or, are reporters presuming that based on the message you provided?

I don't know, I guess you'll have to ask the reporters !

 

[ACandyRose]

http://www.wsoctv.com/videos/news/parsons-led-through-special-entrance-at-rowan-co/vCCKJq/

video of Parsons led through special entrance at Rowan Co. DSS for custody meeting

from http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/parsons-led-through-special-entrance-rowan-co-dss-/nZtjJ/

Hmm, sound more like today is just another supervised visit if "a trial is scheduled in juvenile court where other family members are expected to testify about custody rights."

First I heard about a trial, although it will probably be closed to the public !!

 

[ACandyRose]

Well, I appreciate you sharing that, but I have seen that, too. What I am looking for is the Facebook message reportedly denying the claims by the Parsons that Carolyn had a part in the introduction of "Nan." Is there another post she made privately? Or, are reporters presuming that based on the message you provided?

Here's another MSM where they asked her directly if she could think of any reason for the disappearance.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/erica-parsons-biological-mother-explains-why-she-g/nZgxT/
Thursday, Aug. 29, 2013

Eyewitness News asked if she could think of any reason for the disappearance, and if there's a Nan.

"There is no 'Nan,'" Carolyn said. "There is no Irene."

Casey and Sandy Parsons have said Erica is with a woman called "Nan." Eyewitness News asked Carolyn Parsons if it's at all possible that somebody tricked the couple, if that would be farfetched.

"Nothing is farfetched," Carolyn Parsons said. "You see it every day. There are kids that are kidnapped in this manner every day."

She said not checking in on Erica Parsons, seeing where she was staying, is inexcusable.

"If I knew in January, what I've heard now, I would have been at Rowan County Courthouse fighting for my kid back," Carolyn Parsons said.

Hope this helps also.

 

[bessie]

And, how we change this site's Facebook policy? (g)!

You don't.

 

[2rose]

Here is another article from today which mentions that after the court appearance today,
the PARSONS couple had wanted to meet with investigators today,
but it fell through because of scheduling conflicts. Also says that tomorrow (Friday)
the `Salisbury Post' will follow up with another article about the case.

http://www.salisburypost.com/article/20130912/SP01/130919902/0/SEARCH&slId=1

 

[Shadow205]

Parents Use Social Networking Sites to Unload Unwanted Adopted Kids
SEPTEMBER 10, 2013

http://moms.popsugar.com/Parents-Try-Re-Home-Adopted-Kids-Online-31689806

Interesting article.

 

[bessie]

Parents Use Social Networking Sites to Unload Unwanted Adopted Kids
SEPTEMBER 10, 2013

http://moms.popsugar.com/Parents-Try-Re-Home-Adopted-Kids-Online-31689806

Interesting article.

Here is the original 2-part Reuters report:

Part 1: When a Liberian girl proves too much for her parents, they advertise her online and give her to a couple they&#8217;ve never met. Days later, she goes missing.

By Megan Twohey
Reuters
Editor's Note: Today's stories are the second installment in a series of online and broadcast reports on adoption by Reuters and NBC News.

HICKORY, North Carolina, Sept. 10 - When Megan Exon began moderating an Internet bulletin board in 2007, she viewed her effort as a way to help kids find better homes...

The North Carolina woman wasn&#8217;t a licensed social worker or an adoption specialist. She was a 41-year-old mother who had taken in a child herself less than two years before. Her husband had noticed a Taiwanese boy advertised on the Internet, in one of the online forums that support America&#8217;s underground market for unwanted adopted children.

The parents who were giving up the boy told Exon that the 4-year-old&#8217;s feet were too big and his ears looked funny. If parents could discard their adopted kids so callously, she reasoned, maybe she could help children find new families by moderating one of the Internet sites.

&#8220;We were just introducing people,&#8221; Exon says of the online group, where parents sought new homes for unwanted children in a practice known as &#8220;private re-homing.&#8221; (Much more at the link)

Part 2: A self-proclaimed &#8216;lil boylover&#8217; and a woman accused of neglect find a child on the Internet &#8211; and pick him up hours later in a hotel parking lot.

by Megan Twohey
Filed September 9, 2013

APPLETON, Wisconsin &#8211; Online, she called herself Big Momma; he went by the name lovethemcute. And in the summer of 2006, housemates Nicole Eason and Randy Winslow were surfing the Internet with a common objective.
Each was looking for children.

Winslow &#8211; lovethemcute &#8211; was 41, balding and paunchy. He swapped pictures of naked children and would later spend time in a chat room called baby&toddlerlove, where he described himself as a "lil boylover," court documents show. There, he would graphically boast of molesting boys and explain how to keep the abuse quiet: "Just have to raise them to think its fine and not to tell anyone," he wrote in a chat with an undercover federal agent. "What is done in the family stays in the family."

Eason &#8211; Big Momma &#8211; was about to turn 28. She had moved to Illinois from two states where authorities had taken away her biological children years earlier. In one report, authorities noted that a child she and friends were watching had died in her care...

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"I was desperate and sick to death of it," Mueller says of caring for the 10-year-old, whose name is withheld because Reuters could not reach him. "And I'm like, 'You know what? Take him for a visit. Let me know.'"

After less than an hour outside the Fairfield Inn, Eason and Winslow drove off with a young boy, a commodity in America's underground market for discarded adopted children.
(Much more at the link)

 

[floridamomma]

We know from MSM. My hope is to eliminate the name because MSM has said the Nan character is a trickster, thus feel free to refer to her however you want if needed, because MSM says we can.

i agree that at this point, there is no point in discussing her.

Which puts us at:

Had the Parsons never, ever come up with this story, where would we be?

 

[tlcya]

You asked, "Can you please provide a link where you found the information that Carolyn "is the only person who has been publicly named as having direct knowledge concerning Erica's disappearance other than Casey and Sandy Parsons?"

I believe I did. Do you deny that Carolyn has publicly been named as having direct knowledge about Erica's disappearance? I think that is the fact that I've been asked to provide links to. Do you deny that reporters have asked her about her involvement in introducing "Nan" and the Parsonses?

Actually, I was the member who asked that question. I believe I misunderstood your original post. I now see that you are newer to Websleuths and have no reason to know that in general when discussing a case and referring to someone as "named" members tend to read to that in the context of being named by Law Enforcement. My apologies for not realizing you joined the site right after this case broke and therefore would have no reason to know why your post caused others confusion.

You were referring to the fact that the Parsons (who LE has said are being untruthful and uncooperative with facts that could lead to the whereabouts of Erica) have "named" her and their attorney has "named" her.

Misunderstanding. When using the term named - I and other longer term members tend to think "named by LE or authorities"

I now understand that your original post on this matter was saying that you feel her worthy of looking at because the adoptive parents claim she needs looking at.

I do not agree with your assessment but now I see that there was no meeting of the minds as to what you were conveying in your post on the subject.

A belated welcome to Websleuths.