GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #1

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stmarysmead said:
Great post! I am leaning now toward Molly killing Jason and then calling her parents to come down there. In several articles, it mentioned communications between Molly and her Father being pertinent to the charges. I wonder if this could be a record of calls between the two as the parents were driving down.
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Cheers. There'll be a record of the calls made but does anyone know if the authorities in the US can request the audio content of the calls from the service provider/phone company?
 
sshhh! said:
Quite possible. He only booked the tickets earlier that day after all and one would assume that after what happened the night before, MM and JC may not have been on speaking terms that day.

I just feel with the level of injuries JC received, that those injuries were as a result of uncontrollable rage. He was battered. So to me, the attack is most likely to have happened soon in the aftermath of a heated row. It's plausible to think that JC decided to go to bed after the row rather than stay up and argue some more. He was attacked while in bed some time in the following hour. This is why I don't believe the Martens were present when it all went down. MM probably called them in the meantime, which possibly contributed even more to her rage. The timelines are crucial here, they will paint the picture. If you go back and listen to the 911 call again, TM sounds like a man who has walked in to the house and come upon this whole mess. He refers several times to the mess JC was in, blood everywhere etc. He doesn't sound like a a man who took part in the actual slaying because if he did, the "mess" wouldn't be an issue IMO.
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Yes that is true re 911 call. while he was calm and controlled at the situation he was faced with, he does sound perhaps a little in despair when he talks about the mess and him being covered in blood. while I am keeping an open mind on this, i did always feel that molly did the damage.... she lost absolute complete control of her emotions when she realised the enormity of the situation in her husband leaving and more importantly to molly, taking the children away from her. I do feel there is more to come of the landscaping stone.... was this stone removed by police because it looks to be a weapon and out of place in the room? . I havent seen anything released about blood or hair being found on it, only the bat.

I think as was posted above in the thread that the timings are what are the most important things here..... the timeline of phone calls and messages between molly and her parents, when they arrived at the home and the actual official time of death. Does anyone know if her parents attended the gathering at the house with the neighbours or did they arrive much later and the neighbours had left.....
 
emmalpage81 said:
Regarding au pairs, i recall watching an RTE show some time before Christmas which covered the issue of au pairs in Ireland. This is an unregulated sector. They had investigators pose as both hosts and au pairs with agencies to see what background checks were done. There was nothing, no background checks, no references.

I find it extremely strange that anyone with a college degree would sign up for work that earns you probably less than 150 euro a week.
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That is why I wonder why Jason's family is not revealing how Molly was hired.
 
Hotchips said:
It just occured to me... perhaps Jason mentioned to some of the friends that were at this gathering that he was taking a trip to Ireland, and if molly at that point was not aware of it, i imagine she would have been quite embarrassed in front of her neighbours about the fact that he told people and she was not aware of it. that certainly would set the mood for a blazing row after the guests left..... the row ensued as to why she wasnt made aware of it and in retort he said he was actually thinking of not coming back at all............that could certainly have got the ball rolling.....
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Excellent speculation. It is probable that something happened during the visit with those guests that triggered a later attack by MM on JC. Although my gut still leans to daddy being the physical perpetrator.
I think the blood spatter, etc. crime scene evidence is as important here as it has ever been. If spatter indicated that Jason was lying in bed (or lying anywhere) when he was struck, then that is damning indeed. Nothing about "saving Molly" from Jason adds up. Nothing.
 
lisette said:
.http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...over-jason-corbetts-possessions-34400418.html

Looks like hearing was postponed, perhaps due to bad weather here this week...I am just now catching up on this case. This happened not far from me and I can't believe I didn't even know about it until recently.
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I can't imagine Molly's excellent attorney allowing her to defy a court order and pull a stunt like this. She appears uncontrollable.

This woman is on trial for a horrendous crime where someone lost control in the most frightening way. Isn't there anyone around her who can stop her from reinforcing the public image that she acts out without regard to consequences?

This is soooo bad for her.
 
No, we dont have any information on the dose taken. We have been told that this was not a prescribed drug for Jason, but the source of that information was allegedly a friend of MM,It is referenced here a few days ago.
Drug is contra-indicated in bipolar disorder, Molly was on lithium, remember?
Re the bat , read the past posts and the story of the bat is well explained. Bat was not new.
Re time of death, coroner would have that info. We do not have it.

Good point from Hotchips regarding the unlikliehood of a social gathering occurring in the midst of a domestic tension.
Possibly the row occurred much later and may not have concerned the proposed visit home.. We simply do not have any of that info. It is rather strange that lawyer would chose to misrepresent facts in his initial interview.. I am wondering whether the children were driven off somewhere on the night of the murder, after the event? Did Seecu take them away? It is out of keeping in light of his excellent reputation to make such errors.. the one, reference to their being more adults present could be perceived as attempt to throw off the investigation, away from his clients entirely and cast doubt? The ref to thye children mid of night flight would have been attempt to cast aspersions on the guardians..
 
Some years ago, we decided to hire an au pair to care for our children, as both of us traveled for a living. We carefully chose an agency, who had a local representative, to go through. We wanted a young lady from Germany, since we both spoke a little German. We were given a list of young women, showing photos, and giving profile info, so we could make a choice. Our first au pair arrived, and after a few days of sitting around, letting me wait on her, not showing interest in the children, we called the local representative, to say it wasn't working out. The rep came to pick her up, and said she knew of another young lady, who was here in the US, that we might like better. Enter au pair # 2, who was older (23), and was so much better than au pair # 1. During the four months # 2 worked for us, we learned that she and her previous family had parted ways in an unfriendly manner. Then I came across photos of # 2 entertaining # 1 in our home while we were out of town!!! They were dressing up in my clothes, taking photos of each other!!! I immediately called the rep, and asked her to remove # 2 from our home. I rearranged my travel schedule, and hired a local sitter.

My point: We hired two au pairs through an agency, who had supposedly been checked out ( I doubt they were ) and both had " issues." I am still haunted by the fact that I left my precious children in the care of these young ladies.
 
stmarysmead said:
I can't imagine Molly's excellent attorney allowing her to defy a court order and pull a stunt like this. She appears uncontrollable.

This woman is on trial for a horrendous crime where someone lost control in the most frightening way. Isn't there anyone around her who can stop her from reinforcing the public image that she acts out without regard to consequences?

This is soooo bad for her.
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The outcome of this hearing re the belongings in the home will be interesting. I wonder was there an inventory of the items in the house done when the estate lawyers took over? obviously this inventory would have not included mollys personal clothing, jewellery, and cosmetic items etc, but how will executors know exactly what she took of his belongings unless there is an inventory. a house that size can hold a huge amount of items, not all of course are of monetary value. if she indeed took furnishings and items of value , she would have to be able to prove she bought these from her own personal funds or they were gifts say perhaps from her family when they moved in. I think with having such a good lawyer and her wanting to appear squeaky clean, that it wasnt done without permission but perhaps she thought she could take more items that she thought wouldnt be missed. Id say that lawyer of hers would drop her like a hot potato if she is lying to him and not taking his advice..... from a professional point of view, he cant take the risk of getting caught up in lies.
 
Vast changes occur in the human body post mortem. I am pretty sure it would have been stated already if Jason had been dead for 4 hours when the emt got there. Its a 4 hr or a 2 hr drive? I think I read somewhere its a 2hr drive? Which? If it was 4 hrs, it would have been stated in the search warrants when they were investigating it as murder in first degree. A coroner would tell very quickly what the estimated time of death had been.. then again the emt spent a very short time there before pronouncing death..Whereas most details of the case are unavailable to us, its unlikely this point would have gone unmentioned.
 
kittythehare said:
No, we dont have any information on the dose taken. We have been told that this was not a prescribed drug for Jason, but the source of that information was allegedly a friend of MM,It is referenced here a few days ago.
Drug is contra-indicated in bipolar disorder, Molly was on lithium, remember?
Re the bat , read the past posts and the story of the bat is well explained. Bat was not new.
Re time of death, coroner would have that info. We do not have it.

Good point from Hotchips regarding the unlikliehood of a social gathering occurring in the midst of a domestic tension.
Possibly the row occurred much later and may not have concerned the proposed visit home.. We simply do not have any of that info. It is rather strange that lawyer would chose to misrepresent facts in his initial interview.. I am wondering whether the children were driven off somewhere on the night of the murder, after the event? Did Seecu take them away? It is out of keeping in light of his excellent reputation to make such errors.. the one, reference to their being more adults present could be perceived as attempt to throw off the investigation, away from his clients entirely and cast doubt? The ref to thye children mid of night flight would have been attempt to cast aspersions on the guardians..
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From what i have read on some bipolar forums trazodone in low doses and lithium can be prescribed to the same person. It actually seems quite common.

Will be interesting to see what happens in Court on Tuesday. Am i correct in that MM has two separate lawyers - her criminal lawyer and a lawyer dealing with the estate issues? I have an vague recollection that ME referenced her estate lawyer when giving his statement about the removal of property.
 
From the Independent article:

"According to court documents, the alleged removal of his belongings violated an earlier ‘consent order’ issued in September.
That order directed Ms Martens not to remove any tangible personal property owned by her husband from the house."

If she had notified the court that she was going there to remove her "personal items", surely the Corbetts attorney would have then been notified by the Court so they could monitor the removal.

Didn't a neighbor say that there was a claim that Molly had permission, papers of some sort? Apparently, this latest court that has summoned her to appear hasn't seen these "papers."
 
Hotchips said:
The outcome of this hearing re the belongings in the home will be interesting. I wonder was there an inventory of the items in the house done when the estate lawyers took over? obviously this inventory would have not included mollys personal clothing, jewellery, and cosmetic items etc, but how will executors know exactly what she took of his belongings unless there is an inventory. a house that size can hold a huge amount of items, not all of course are of monetary value. if she indeed took furnishings and items of value , she would have to be able to prove she bought these from her own personal funds or they were gifts say perhaps from her family when they moved in. I think with having such a good lawyer and her wanting to appear squeaky clean, that it wasnt done without permission but perhaps she thought she could take more items that she thought wouldnt be missed. Id say that lawyer of hers would drop her like a hot potato if she is lying to him and not taking his advice..... from a professional point of view, he cant take the risk of getting caught up in lies.
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Completely agree, the last thing any lawyer wants is to be made look bad in front of the Courts. They have their professional reputation to maintain.
 
good points raised here.
I am wondering whether there are any local yardsale adverts hanging around where the goods may have been advertised already?
 
emmalpage81 said:
Will be interesting to see what happens in Court on Tuesday. Am i correct in that MM has two separate lawyers - her criminal lawyer and a lawyer dealing with the estate issues? I have an vague recollection that ME referenced her estate lawyer when giving his statement about the removal of property.
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My understanding is that she has a family law lawyer to deal with custody issues and a criminal defence lawyer to deal with the murder charge. She may also have someone to deal with the estate but I haven't seen anything about it. Is that generally handled separately in the US?
 
heres some links on forensics
http://jcp.bmj.com/content/54/5/348.long
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1680107-overview
http://www.forensicpathologyonline.com/E-Book/injuries
Theres lots of info on search.
ALansby I am interested in why you believe the injuries were caused by father? Is it the strength of the blows that must have been used in order to inflict that amount of damage? I did see a media report, it was quite possibly on the same Irish Times article I referenced before.. describing the crime scene and some spatterings, it was a sparse report, but contained some detail..
 
There are different kinds of legal specialties, so it makes sense that she has different lawyers on retainer. However when you are indicted on a charge that will forfeit 40 years of your life, if convicted, usually the criminal attorney has precedence.

To put it another way, if you have serious heart problems and are seeing a specialist, you will be advised not even to have dental work without checking with that cardiologist.

I think Miss Molly can't stand being ignored and now that her social media is shut down, she just had to lash out and get attention.




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