GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #2

[stmarysmead]

Or it could have been the final straw for Jason he decided for definite this time he had had enough and he was going to leave and end the Marriage taking his children with him .Why did the parents arrive ? Imo Molly told them something very important that made them change their plans and leave their home immediately and go to NC. In the picture Jasons brother posted following his visit her parents were in those also . So they left 5 days before and then came back again . 5 days later why ?
IMO if he was going to choke her because of fat shaming he would have done it the night before when Mollys parents weren't in the house . Why wait till her parents arrive and try to kill her at 3 in the morning naked.Also how can defence use story of Molly victim of DV &. Fat shamer in the same sentence!!

Brilliant post!

 

[kittythehare]

I truly fear they will be acquitted - throw plenty of mud and enough of it will stick. They will keep going until they have enough for reasonable doubt and I am terrified a jury will be swayed. If they are acquitted they will appeal to the fullest possible extent and I am sorry to say I anticipate this will go on for years with no closure for the Corbetts. If they were only interviewed once, this does not augur well for the prosecution - that was a serious mistake. They should have been interviewed again and again to see if they tripped themselves up. Multiple interviews would have unearthed a lot. Now the Discovery issue... If this is an example of the investigation/prosecution competence I am really afraid they will get off either on technicalities or reasonable doubt.

IMO

They may have been interviewed only once but acc to link posted yesterday, several requests for further information have been complied with in the subsequent 5 months. I hope this is sufficient, but , like you I feel it will drag on for years possibly.
According to Holton the police are not appropriately following the rules of investigation. He did not cite evidence or examples where they may not be complicit so its not possible to explore this in greater depth right now.
The only way they can be acquited will be on technicalities but we also know by now that defence lawyers have been untruthful in the past. We have discussed their anomalies here in the past in some details. 'children being taken from their beds in the middle of the night' springs to mind. The fact that he actually made that remark in full knowledge that it was a lie suggests an attempt to paint the guardians as macabre child thieves. He would also have been fully aware that it was a co-ordinated multi agency mission and happened in the middle of the day with many witnesses including police.
His petty comments yesterday that police were treating it as a game is further insult. The triple press conference was in really bad taste. Including Mike Earnest in the interview, when he has already discredited himself and shown himself to be a liar was overkill.
Earnest is like a malevolent jack-in-the-box who pops up and spouts malice on cue.
So much for the investigation by sIGAR, yesterday's oration was indeed proof that SIGAR failed to take their alleged investigation seriously. It was triumphalism.. I got a mental image of a rat jumping up in a dirty sewer to spit and bite while watching his utter contempt for justice and truth.
It is high time sIGAR was investigated too. There were other serious allegations made which I am not allowed to publish here, I will if I can find a copy of of a US air marshll's report.
The very least sIGAR should have done is to have silenced him. Ordered him to remove himself from the investigation. They apparently did nothing at all which suggests they are complicit.. if they are it might suggest yet another motive for Jason's murder. It might be time to investigate sIGAR role in Afghanistan too.
He doth protest too much..
why?
He also managed to make the journey in double quick time on the day of the killing.. Its very strange indeed.

 

[kittythehare]

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Wi...mpts-to-access-murdered-Irishmans-office.html
Although Earnest denies that he is under investigation, his employer SIGAR confirmed they were investigating contact he made with MPS on August 3.

“SIGAR is conducting an administrative inquiry. We take all allegations seriously and review them thoroughly. Since this is a personnel matter we cannot comment further,” a spokesperson confirmed.
http://evoke.ie/news/irish-news/molly-martens-uncle-tried-to-get-access-to-jasons-office
quote from Mike
‘I did not,’ he said. ‘That is a complete lie and fabrication. There could be nothing further from the truth.’ He added: ‘It’s one thing to tell a lie about an average citizen. It’s another to tell a lie about a sworn US federal agent.’ He declined to comment on the SIGAR investigation.
No average citizen.
If SIGAR had indeed conducted an investigation they should at least have given him a gag order. They did not, thus embroiling themselves deeper into the case of homicide.
Mike must know that his family is vulnerable because of Mona's activities , particularly her public posts on the GOP candidates walls.. This makes me think that the stakes are very high indeed, to take such a foolish risk in the full knowledge that she herself had incited the fallout by both her GOP post lies and her deliberate posting of the childrens' images in the full knowledge that it was and is widely believed that such publicity places them in danger and is in breach of their real family's wishes and consent.

 

[Logic-lady]

does anyone see this as a possible motive for wanting to choke her?... she might could use this as part of her defense...IMO...

Excellent point. Food for thought there. What molly will say is the reason he was allegedly choking her....we have discussed at length the possible reasons she had to attack him but not really examined what possibilities she could come up with for him supposedly attacking her....

I am sure he probably had had enough at that point, but the fact that he walked away that night rather than displaying any form of aggression (the MSM quotes were that he 'took it to heart and it upset him', I think it would be hard to link it to the following nights events. Especially given that they socialised again the following evening with neighbours, I'm sure their testimony will play a big part in how Molly and Jason behaved towards each other in the hours leading up to what happened.

 

[anniejay]

You make great points.
Did the yahoo screengrabs by any chance have dates on either the posts or the replies, particularly to her questions? I have been searching and even though I did locate earlier copies which had 10 answers they did not have the dates. Just the number of years. i saw a message too that yahoo did not preserve pages but I thought there would still be a way. I discovered they allow one to alter details or further clarify posts okay.

On one or two searches, which must have been free searches it gave access to all addresses she had occupied.. I'm not sure whether the discussion took place here though. There were , maybe 5 or 6.. but your theory makes much more sense.
It does not explain the absence of prom photos, normal incidental print photos.. the usual..
You know her father worked Oakridge, counter intelligence? It has been subject to various scandals over the years, not black-hat exactly but some articles I read left room for doubt. the kind of sense you get while watching horror movies about human genetic experiments going on in 'there'.. 'there' being some building that looks exactly like Oakridge does. Just my thoughts.
Its very frustrating to say the least.. wonder whether we should consider exploring it psychically at this stage..
Only half joking.

No specific dates on the screenshots but it does say 9 years ago. I can pop them on here if ya think its helpful.

 

[kittythehare]

No specific dates on the screenshots but it does say 9 years ago. I can pop them on here if ya think its helpful.

Thanks, I saw ones with either dates on the comments or the posts, I'm trying since to access older copy that includes dates. drawing a blank. the next time I looked at it, I must have hit the site when either year was being updated or the posts and only the year remained. as in number of years since it was posted. I found it on the same day I found the request for info re her older email retrieval.. I feel there must be a way to access though I cannot.. Any ideas on how to access old sites and posts?
Did you get a sense, in the course of your investigation, that her records had been electronically wiped, at all?
I did.. Really need someone who is proficient tech to search I think.
Of particular interest should be the 6 months leading up to his death..

 

[fido]

I didnt know there was a press conference. When was this? Was mike earnest speaking at it? It's ironic-they claim the defendants can't get a fair trial due to publicity yet they are turning it into a media circus with statements to media, interviews with chat shows and now a press conference!!! How hypocritical. I am not familiar with this - in Ireland there is limited evidentiary info available to public prior to a trial usually. No public statements, no interviews usually just a statement once a verdict is reached.

 

[kittythehare]

I didnt know there was a press conference. When was this? Was mike earnest speaking at it? It's ironic-they claim the defendants can't get a fair trial due to publicity yet they are turning it into a media circus with statements to media, interviews with chat shows and now a press conference!!! How hypocritical. I am not familiar with this - in Ireland there is limited evidentiary info available to public prior to a trial usually. No public statements, no interviews usually just a statement once a verdict is reached.

I am calling it a press conference. I dont know what media are calling it. Last week he made the ridiculous comment regarding the post mortem blood alcohol levels..
I agree they are making it a media circus because they desperately want to shift the trial from NC which suggests they will receive a more favorable reception elsewhere.

 

[Logic-lady]

Need direction and if we co-ordinated, made lists etc, form a strategy? Just a suggestion for a direction forward. Reason being I dont like to dance to their mad tunes anymore.. they are setting agendas left right and centre, Its their narrative and theirs only and they can afford and have access to expensive media outlets.
I feel they will waste our energy.
any ideas on moving forward? Paths to investigate?

I agree Kitty....I think a review of what we can actually establish would be helpful and focus the sleuthing towards uncovering something. It is hard not to become emotionally invested in this one when we see behaviours so alien to ourselves, but I think it serves only to distract us from the main objective. Personally, I always think there is a level of truth to a lie, so it is easier to assume someone is telling the truth and to disprove it as a falsehood rather than reacting to the lie itself.

So on that basis, we know Molly went to Clemson (there is a yearbook photo to corroborate this) - SearchinGirl made some interesting observations regarding sororities...perhaps this is worth following up? Is there a way we could establish if Molly did in fact belong to one? It might throw up something of what she did when she left. Early on there was a really helpful contributor who was able to ask a friend about Molly's involvement in the swimteam there...perhaps they would have more specific info on the sororities at Clemson?

We also have the yahoo questions, I have been pondering these today! I do believe there is an element of truth to her posts. If we could establish a pattern of behaviour I think this would be helpful to the case.

Molly also spoke to a divorce lawyer two years prior to Jason's death - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/jason-corbett-slain-mans-wife-6285576 It would make sense that if the domestic violence was a factor at this point in the marriage that she would have been advised of the best way to protect and retain custody of the children despite Jason being their biological parent. In my mind, we are missing something here. If Molly was to retain custody, she would surely have to have been able to provide the court with evidence that she could financially support herself and the children if she divorced Jason. If she has done no actual work since college, how would she have gone about gaining employment? She must have something to her CV given that she was hired by Chico's after the event, or do you think they would have accepted returning to work after raising children as an explanation for her lack of job experience? It is niggling at me!

Everything else is bound up by the case IMO, the mud slinging etc, will all boil down to the crime scene evidence...if we can find out whether Molly was building a case to leave Jason and take the kids, it would surely amount to a level of premeditation that could explain the explosive anger that occured that night?

 

[stmarysmead]

Re: Chicos. One does not need a resume of note to work there. Many women get part-time work while the children are at school, get a discount on their clothes and make a little money. You need no degree or past job experience...it can be a fun way to enhance ones wardrobe.This is a high turnover minimum wage or slightly higher job....very popular with women who have been stay at home Moms...where salary is not an issue.

When Molly visited that divorce attorney she would have been advised of her rights. One avenue to custody would be proving DV. The children could be given to her in that situation according to links posted here before. Additionally, she would be due both spousal and child support from Jason's income. I do have divorced friends who have no need to work though not living in quite the comfort as before. All this would have been explained to Molly.

So she needn't supply the court with her documentation...Jason would be required to provide for spousal support.

Without the children, however, in such a short marriage, her lifestyle would definitely change.

I don't recall that we found a Clemson photo. I believe our poster who had the friend on the swim team reported back ...she had no memory of Molly. Not every young woman at Clemson is in a sorority. Though it could be interesting research...though arduous.

 

[stmarysmead]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemson_University_Greek_life

Twelve sororities...only 23% of students in Greek life.

 

[fido]

I posted a few pages back that the girl believed to have been Molly in the Clemson year book was named in the photo key as Samantha Barnes.

 

[searchinGirl]

I posted a few pages back that the girl believed to have been Molly in the Clemson year book was named in the photo key as Samantha Barnes.

I didn't see a photo key...is it on the same page?

 

[kittythehare]

Re: Chicos. One does not need a resume of note to work there. Many women get part-time work while the children are at school, get a discount on their clothes and make a little money. You need no degree or past job experience...it can be a fun way to enhance ones wardrobe.This is a high turnover minimum wage or slightly higher job....very popular with women who have been stay at home Moms...where salary is not an issue.

When Molly visited that divorce attorney she would have been advised of her rights. One avenue to custody would be proving DV. The children could be given to her in that situation according to links posted here before. Additionally, she would be due both spousal and child support from Jason's income. I do have divorced friends who have no need to work though not living in quite the comfort as before. All this would have been explained to Molly.

So she needn't supply the court with her documentation...Jason would be required to provide for spousal support.

Without the children, however, in such a short marriage, her lifestyle would definitely change.

I don't recall that we found a Clemson photo. I believe our poster who had the friend on the swim team reported back ...she had no memory of Molly. Not every young woman at Clemson is in a sorority. Though it could be interesting research...though arduous.

EXACTLY!
The only thought I have on the subject is that perhaps Jason's reputation was too good, he was well liked and did not fit into any of the typical DV men profiles. It would have been impossible for her to prove DV and she had no witnesses.
So she had to create a scenario where DV would be witnessed by none other than her father, former fed himself.
It is possible that she consulted him, it is possible that he consented to the charade so she could acquire both new/old boyfriend and Jason's children as well.
If that was the scenario, she would have pre-planned the event. She would have set the timing. The place. The geography. The histrionics that most upset or aggravated him and she would have called a 'Midnight Tribunal'.
(a head frying argument about one of her narcissistic themes, and it would have been a lengthy one.)
this time she was ready to finally get her much longed for evidence and witnesses.
But they killed him instead.
Of course she knew the law of NC.
But Jason wan't an abuser.
She NEEDED him to be an abuser to take full advantage of the laws, so she set it up.
Molly is not unintelligent in her snake emissions, she is clever and she is conniving and she is utterly ruthless.
It had to be a weekend because Daddy was a 9-5 man on weekdays.
Either her new, though I suspect, if he exists at all, he is not new, boyfriend put her under pressure or she finally realised Jason would really leave her this time- he may even have already taken legal advice and told her what the outcome would be.
Something brought it to a head.
These are just my thoughts springing from what you just posted..
Just thoughts.

 

[searchinGirl]

EXACTLY!
The only thought I have on the subject is that perhaps Jason's reputation was too good, he was well liked and did not fit into any of the typical DV men profiles. It would have been impossible for her to prove DV and she had no witnesses.
So she had to create a scenario where DV would be witnessed by none other than her father, former fed himself.
It is possible that she consulted him, it is possible that he consented to the charade so she could acquire both new/old boyfriend and Jason's children as well.
If that was the scenario, she would have pre-planned the event. She would have set the timing. The place. The geography. The histrionics that most upset or aggravated him and she would have called a 'Midnight Tribunal'.
(a head frying argument about one of her narcissistic themes, and it would have been a lengthy one.)
this time she was ready to finally get her much longed for evidence and witnesses.
But they killed him instead.
Of course she knew the law of NC.
But Jason wan't an abuser.
She NEEDED him to be an abuser to take full advantage of the laws, so she set it up.
Molly is not unintelligent in her snake emissions, she is clever and she is conniving and she is utterly ruthless.
It had to be a weekend because Daddy was a 9-5 man on weekdays.
Either her new, though I suspect, if he exists at all, he is not new, boyfriend put her under pressure or she finally realised Jason would really leave her this time- he may even have already taken legal advice and told her what the outcome would be.
Something brought it to a head.
These are just my thoughts springing from what you just posted..
Just thoughts.

Do you know many men who would kill another man to take care of his children?

 

[stmarysmead]

Do you know many men who would kill another man to take care of his children?

Do you know a man who, with not one blow landed on HIM, would keep beating, beating, beating until his victim was a bloody mess of injuries? A man who would be party to that rage-killing, in my opinion, is capable of anything.

 

[kittythehare]

Do you know many men who would kill another man to take care of his children?

No, but I know loads who rear highly narcissistic daughters and will do almost anything for a quiet life.
But who said he killed him?
that might not have been the original plan at all..
If the only plan had been for molly to scream jason was killing her so she would have witnesses, and if through such an act she obtained custody and child support, Jason would have always been taking care of her. Not Pops.
But Jason's skull was pulverised to the extent that pieces of his skin and his scalp was on the walls and furniture.. Molly had a party.. She let loose entirely.

 

[searchinGirl]

Do you know a man who, with not one blow landed on HIM, would keep beating, beating, beating until his victim was a bloody mess of injuries? A man who would be party to that rage-killing, in my opinion, is capable of anything.

second degree murder...

 

[stmarysmead]

second degree murder...

In my opinion, there is nothing "normal" about this family. They would like to portray themselves as the modern day Waltons who were dismayed when their daughter married King Kong. Now their daughter had much time on her hands between shopping and expensive vacations and one day, decided to consult an attorney about ditching King Kong, but apparently decided to stick it out. Meanwhile, the Waltons, oops, Martens, visited and were carted on vacations and had a "very good" relationship with King Kong and even considered him a golfing buddy.

One night however, King Kong decides to strangle little Molly. Apparently, King Kong has a weak grip because Mr Marten has time to wake up, get out of bed, find a baseball bat and a brick and then hightail it to the bedroom...where the strangulation was still in lengthy process.

At this point, only to save Little Molly, TM administers countless killing blows and even switches weapons just to add variety. Or maybe Little Mary grabs that brick paving stone, that all Americans keep on the bedside table,and joins in the fun. Luckily for them King Kong has marshmallow hands and bad eyesight...so they can keep killing him without getting a scratch!

When he's dead, his body destroyed...they THEN decide to call the authorities, because Mom Marten wouldn't want to call 911 until the Daddy-Daughter Duo had finished their "defense."

Next day, Mom Marten...finally calls the family of King Kong and full of empathy and compassion and human kindness, utters the fact that Their Loved One is dead. Then hangs up immediately. Like a prank call about death.

Next day, busy, busy. Trying to get King Kong cremated before the autopsy. Running to banks, filing custody papers. Doing everything that pertains to THEIR WANTS...and refusing to speak or allow the children to communicate with the grieving family in shock.

The family arrives and what does this fabulous Perfect family do? Deny even a moment of solace with their lost brothers children.

Then we have the custody suit...and the Facebook campaign STARRING...Little Molly as the VICTIM...never a mention just WHY those children are orphaned.

After The Waltons...oops The Martens are charged, the Estate is held in abeyance for all till after the trial, since the Slayer Statue may well occur. Then Miss Molly defies the Court and stages her unbelievable GreedGrab...to get her hands on everything she can.

The mind boggles at the sense of outrageous entitlement.

Presently Little Molly is apparently trying to destroy reputations of the THREE judges that ruled on the custody case, Brian Shipwash, the Sheriiffs Department, and assorted investigators. Take their jobs and reputations.

Soon she will malign her husband's reputation. Her final "gift" to his children she claims to love.

I think ANYTHING is possible from these people. No manner of inhumanity, cruelty or outrage is out of bounds with people like this.

My opinion only. You may find them quite different.

 

[searchinGirl]

In my opinion, there is nothing "normal" about this family. They would like to portray themselves as the modern day Waltons who were dismayed when their daughter married King Kong. Now their daughter had much time on her hands between shopping and expensive vacations and one day, decided to consult an attorney about ditching King Kong, but apparently decided to stick it out. Meanwhile, the Waltons, oops, Martens, visited and were carted on vacations and had a "very good" relationship with King Kong and even considered him a golfing buddy.

One night however, King Kong decides to strangle little Molly. Apparently, King Kong has a weak grip because Mr Marten has time to wake up, get out of bed, find a baseball bat and a brick and then hightail it to the bedroom...where the strangulation was still in lengthy process.

At this point, only to save Little Molly, TM administers countless killing blows and even switches weapons just to add variety. Or maybe Little Mary grabs that brick paving stone, that all Americans keep on the bedside table,and joins in the fun. Luckily for them King Kong has marshmallow hands and bad eyesight...so they can keep killing him without getting a scratch!

When he's dead, his body destroyed...they THEN decide to call the authorities, because Mom Marten wouldn't want to call 911 until the Daddy-Daughter Duo had finished their "defense."

Next day, Mom Marten...finally calls the family of King Kong and full of empathy and compassion and human kindness, utters the fact that Their Loved One is dead. Then hangs up immediately. Like a prank call about death.

Next day, busy, busy. Trying to get King Kong cremated before the autopsy. Running to banks, filing custody papers. Doing everything that pertains to THEIR WANTS...and refusing to speak or allow the children to communicate with the grieving family in shock.

The family arrives and what does this fabulous Perfect family do? Deny even a moment of solace with their lost brothers children.

Then we have the custody suit...and the Facebook campaign STARRING...Little Molly as the VICTIM...never a mention just WHY those children are orphaned.

After The Waltons...oops The Martens are charged, the Estate is held in abeyance for all till after the trial, since the Slayer Statue may well occur. Then Miss Molly defies the Court and stages her unbelievable GreedGrab...to get her hands on everything she can.

The mind boggles at the sense of outrageous entitlement.

Presently Little Molly is apparently trying to destroy reputations of the THREE judges that ruled on the custody case, Brian Shipwash, the Sheriiffs Department, and assorted investigators. Take their jobs and reputations.

Soon she will malign her husband's reputation. Her final "gift" to his children she claims to love.

I think ANYTHING is possible from these people. No manner of inhumanity, cruelty or outrage is out of bounds with people like this.

My opinion only. You may find them quite different.

Actually, I don't think you are too far off track ... Molly reminds me of my know it all sister which is how I dare to assess what she might be thinking...she has a remarkable way of creating troublesome situations where everyone involved is to blame except her...the children in my family were expected to go to college and my brothers and sister quickly joined Greek life... I however, chose to go to a small school about 30 miles from Winston Salem that has no sororities and have ever since been deemed Black Sheep of the family... I survived an abusive first marriage some 25 years ago and when my ex-husband decided to shut me up by jumping on me and suffocating me I saw my life ending...it is obviously something I will never forget...and if there had been a rock or anything within reach I would have hit him with it and kept hitting him until I was sure he was no longer a threat...however, had my Dad walked in at that moment I can't help but believe he would have done the same thing for me without regret...it's difficult to say how my Dad would have come out of the fight ... I think his fear would have caused overkill because he was no match for the ex-husband..but I'm speculating anyway... my biggest concern would be that my Dads life not be ruined for it but, I would not have been so concerned about filing for custody of my stepchildren...believe it or not IMO Molly believes that is what she had to do to show those children that she loves them... but she doesn't get it... not at all ...Did Molly know about Jason's will?...