irishmartin
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Sorry if I transgressed the rules I thought I did it sufficient circuitously and obliquely dealing with what is I believe a pivotal time in the saga and supporting this I now find SM as a defendant in the civil suit. But those directly involved in the killing they have no excuses, everyone is directly responsible for their own actions. While I was not writing a forensic linked story I was giving flesh to what is in the public domain. I want to make it clear I have no association with the Corbett family or the online campaign Justice for Jason (RIP). I stated their local TD (parliamentary representative) took up the cudgels for them and that Irish Foreign Affairs were involved. This I got from local knowledge from a source in Limerick because at the time as I was astonished how a non-legal family got so organized with legal teams in the US and were in the US courts so quickly. There is a link to this and the TD is Willie O Dea who was a former Irish Government Minister and lawyer and when it comes to heavy hitting in such a humanitarian situation he is the best. This was with an unstoppable local support.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cri...s-of-irish-siblings-td-willie-o-dea-1.2314062
http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...rt-for-family-of-slain-irishman-31445737.html
http://www.ilovelimerick.ie/2015/ho...son-corbett-will-return-to-ireland-this-week/
And for Shannon Airport involvement again this was word of mouth but we can see this input on the marathon flight home, Shannon Airport was coordinating this from a far as bad weather cause a missed flight but alternative plans were quickly put in place and I’m sure the transit US airports and airways were on notice to receive their weary travellers and deal with them appropriately.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...t-childrens-39hour-journey-home-31470951.html
I have being reading some of the post on the advocates of a DV angle to the night of JC death and none of it has a shred of logic to and is full of holes and I can’t but wonder has it an alternative motive. Police reports make this clear that TM and MM had no injuries. The facts are JC was found naked in the floor of his own bedroom and one can presume from that he was in bed. I don’t believe for one second the JC was walking around the house in the nude while his in-laws were visiting. It’s more than likely he slept in the nude as so many do and it would appear this was a ground floor bedroom. I would also think he was in a deep sleep as this is the effect of the drug found in his body and if this was his first time in his system the effects would be even bigger. So if MM felt that abused why she didn’t she sleep in another bedroom and from the available information she had her clothes in the first floor bedroom so why didn’t she just go to sleep there and bolt the door. And why should MM feel so entrapped in a DV situation after all she was in a readymade family having no genetic links to, living in a property she had no financial input to and living an extravagant lifestyle she did not support. If she wanted a way out of the situation she had had no kinsfolk linkages or pecuniary all she had to do is call the removal truck and go right back to moms and pops and start all over again. It would have JC blessing. For the blood in the bathroom and hallway that would be easily explained as being transferred by those in the bloodbath. There also appears to be a discussion taking place in the background of the 911 call, wonder who it was.
JC had found a way out of the situation with his kids and he was exercising that option by returning back to Ireland. Unfortunately for the Ms this option was not to their liking especially the taking of his kids back to Ireland. It would not be of JC strategic interest to start any dramatics that night and that would be his professional way of doing things. It appears he was sick of the situation and he was moving on and had made the plans to so do. And for the Ms’ family their ungratefulness in attacking JC, the greatest period of stability for MM since the onset of her psychiatric illness was with JC. But what immediately came to my mind after JC death until explained here was what was a 22/23 yrs old from a US middle-class family, extremely attractive, family having all the right connections holding positions in federal administration coming to Ireland to babysit. It just didn’t make sense; one of that age would expect would be starting a career and looking to establish her own family. It now seems that she couldn’t, she was looking for a readymade family, one that financially supported her.
I still find this difficult to comprehend, suppose the Ms’ got custody of the kids and this is not farfetched as MM did get an initial custody order despite she being the prime suspect in the killing of the kids father and she only stepmother. Two scenarios arise, the first, there was no criminal prosecution and MM continues as primary care giver and the second there was and those directly responsible for JC death imprisoned for it. How this would be explained to Jack and Sarah down the line. Kids are not jewellery accessories or puppy dogs and no matter how much lies, Jack was going to pry to the truth to his dad’s death in the next 2yrs and have the ability to Google it and be able to read his father’s horrific autopsy report. And if he didn’t he would have one of his peers tell him this. What was he then expected to do then, he and his sister living with a mommy and a grand-pops or them in prison if convicted with mama-bear as their primary caregiver and she taking them on prison visits to visit their dads killer who brutally pulverised him to death. And this mama-bear was present in the house the night of his father’s death and did nothing to save him. No amount of mollycoddling could pass this off, it bears incomprehension the effect it would have on them. One thing I know of my own experience where there has being a family trauma such for me as a house fire of the past and kids come to the age of getting knowledge of it is how they forensically go through it till they are satisfied they have built a full picture of it. At least now Jack has the full knowledge he had a loving caring family back in Ireland that immediately rode into to battle fearlessly to his rescue and save him and his little sister. I can’t imagine how he is now coping even knowing the love of his Limerick family. He is now of the age of establishing his adolescence masculinity. He has no father, gone is the figure of his life that he shared his thoughts with and hung out with and that is irreplaceable. And we do know that Jack had an over reliance of his father as the primary caregiver and was well aware that MM was not his mother and there was constant friction with her, he refusing to call her what she demanded, mommy. We do know Jack is asking his now caregivers why are not the killers of his dad in prison and I would imagine find it incomprehensible. At his age waiting two yrs is a lifetime.
It could be worse and more complicated just imagine the complications if MM had offspring with JC and trying to solve this and all the complications it would bring and these siblings of little Jack and Sarah. At least in this situation for Jack and Sarah there's an option of a clean break.
Looking at MM claim to her mommy status especially the letter she states was from Jack and Sarah one thing is quite clear its seems its written with the same hand and for clear evidence is the lower case ”you” both said to be from both Jack and Sarah are the same, the “m” are the same and another example the “g” in August at top of letter is the same as what’s used for Jack. There is no doubt this is a forgery and for the circumstance around it so farfetched that’s its inexplicable. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208839096481358&set=pcb.10208839098561410&type=3&theater
I would think the prosecution have a case full of holes on the night of the JC death. While TM and MM cooperated with police and it would seem made statements and recordings. Telling a convincing lie and two people getting it straight all the time immediately after the incident is an impossible. But no doubt JM believed his past in law enforcement would allay this and these provincial police would not have the experience to deal with it and he would wrap the whole thing immediately. I know from my own angle if I was being questioned as a suspect about a serious crime and I totally innocent of I would be deferring all answers “that my lawyer would deal with it”. There is a well know saying "A man who is his own lawyer - has a fool for a client.".
A “donnybrook” referred in TM 911 call is an Irish term and refers to the old Irish cattle fairs affrays. One of such was held in Donnybrook in Dublin. Often at these events extended families engaged other families with stick and stones often the cause being land issues as Ireland was then under British rule and Irish native landholding was that of tenant farmers at the pleasure of the Anglo-Irish landlord. Evictions were often and the replacement tenant was often the focus of the dispossessed wrath.
As for the Irish views of the US criminal justice system, we are only fully aware of its un-forgivingness to wrongdoers but we have still memories of the circus of the OJ trial. For this trial what we expect the case being played out of the saga of the damsel in distress like the race distraction of the OJ trial. And pops of long unblemished experience in law enforcement having to come to the rescue to save her. And no doubt the villainy of JC and total disregards for little Jack and Sarah. I have no doubt the Ms’ initial statements to Police are full of holes and there is a clear distinct motive of the Corbett kids. There is no doubt we are among a terrible evil and a warped evil and this is for the extended M family. Mona Earnest FB page is a taunting of the C family is an evil sick taunting using little kids.
https://www.facebook.com/mona.earnest1?pnref=friends.search
and mama-bear self-righteousness is very twisted mind-set and the audaciousness in its sheer brazeness
https://www.facebook.com/sharon.martens.16
As for this an Irish v US, it’s anything as such. The Ms’ FB support some are identifiable Irish people living in Ireland. I can only presume some of these are blind to the truth or are too stupid to acquire the full story. There is also the fact that evil attract the same and that even the serial killer Ted Bundy had an extended fan base.
Was hoping to build a fuller picture if the Ms of what is known of the family how long have they being in the US and what are their ethnic background. I associate this area are to be of the “bible belt” and having association of being heavily settled by the Scots-Irish and to a lesser by Anglo-Saxon settlers in the 18 & 19[SUP]th[/SUP] century. But SM FB states she is from Tallahassee, Florida and went to high-school there don’t know if TM is from there.
The prosecution will open its case tomorrow let’s see justice served and the wicket punished.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cri...s-of-irish-siblings-td-willie-o-dea-1.2314062
http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...rt-for-family-of-slain-irishman-31445737.html
http://www.ilovelimerick.ie/2015/ho...son-corbett-will-return-to-ireland-this-week/
And for Shannon Airport involvement again this was word of mouth but we can see this input on the marathon flight home, Shannon Airport was coordinating this from a far as bad weather cause a missed flight but alternative plans were quickly put in place and I’m sure the transit US airports and airways were on notice to receive their weary travellers and deal with them appropriately.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...t-childrens-39hour-journey-home-31470951.html
I have being reading some of the post on the advocates of a DV angle to the night of JC death and none of it has a shred of logic to and is full of holes and I can’t but wonder has it an alternative motive. Police reports make this clear that TM and MM had no injuries. The facts are JC was found naked in the floor of his own bedroom and one can presume from that he was in bed. I don’t believe for one second the JC was walking around the house in the nude while his in-laws were visiting. It’s more than likely he slept in the nude as so many do and it would appear this was a ground floor bedroom. I would also think he was in a deep sleep as this is the effect of the drug found in his body and if this was his first time in his system the effects would be even bigger. So if MM felt that abused why she didn’t she sleep in another bedroom and from the available information she had her clothes in the first floor bedroom so why didn’t she just go to sleep there and bolt the door. And why should MM feel so entrapped in a DV situation after all she was in a readymade family having no genetic links to, living in a property she had no financial input to and living an extravagant lifestyle she did not support. If she wanted a way out of the situation she had had no kinsfolk linkages or pecuniary all she had to do is call the removal truck and go right back to moms and pops and start all over again. It would have JC blessing. For the blood in the bathroom and hallway that would be easily explained as being transferred by those in the bloodbath. There also appears to be a discussion taking place in the background of the 911 call, wonder who it was.
JC had found a way out of the situation with his kids and he was exercising that option by returning back to Ireland. Unfortunately for the Ms this option was not to their liking especially the taking of his kids back to Ireland. It would not be of JC strategic interest to start any dramatics that night and that would be his professional way of doing things. It appears he was sick of the situation and he was moving on and had made the plans to so do. And for the Ms’ family their ungratefulness in attacking JC, the greatest period of stability for MM since the onset of her psychiatric illness was with JC. But what immediately came to my mind after JC death until explained here was what was a 22/23 yrs old from a US middle-class family, extremely attractive, family having all the right connections holding positions in federal administration coming to Ireland to babysit. It just didn’t make sense; one of that age would expect would be starting a career and looking to establish her own family. It now seems that she couldn’t, she was looking for a readymade family, one that financially supported her.
I still find this difficult to comprehend, suppose the Ms’ got custody of the kids and this is not farfetched as MM did get an initial custody order despite she being the prime suspect in the killing of the kids father and she only stepmother. Two scenarios arise, the first, there was no criminal prosecution and MM continues as primary care giver and the second there was and those directly responsible for JC death imprisoned for it. How this would be explained to Jack and Sarah down the line. Kids are not jewellery accessories or puppy dogs and no matter how much lies, Jack was going to pry to the truth to his dad’s death in the next 2yrs and have the ability to Google it and be able to read his father’s horrific autopsy report. And if he didn’t he would have one of his peers tell him this. What was he then expected to do then, he and his sister living with a mommy and a grand-pops or them in prison if convicted with mama-bear as their primary caregiver and she taking them on prison visits to visit their dads killer who brutally pulverised him to death. And this mama-bear was present in the house the night of his father’s death and did nothing to save him. No amount of mollycoddling could pass this off, it bears incomprehension the effect it would have on them. One thing I know of my own experience where there has being a family trauma such for me as a house fire of the past and kids come to the age of getting knowledge of it is how they forensically go through it till they are satisfied they have built a full picture of it. At least now Jack has the full knowledge he had a loving caring family back in Ireland that immediately rode into to battle fearlessly to his rescue and save him and his little sister. I can’t imagine how he is now coping even knowing the love of his Limerick family. He is now of the age of establishing his adolescence masculinity. He has no father, gone is the figure of his life that he shared his thoughts with and hung out with and that is irreplaceable. And we do know that Jack had an over reliance of his father as the primary caregiver and was well aware that MM was not his mother and there was constant friction with her, he refusing to call her what she demanded, mommy. We do know Jack is asking his now caregivers why are not the killers of his dad in prison and I would imagine find it incomprehensible. At his age waiting two yrs is a lifetime.
It could be worse and more complicated just imagine the complications if MM had offspring with JC and trying to solve this and all the complications it would bring and these siblings of little Jack and Sarah. At least in this situation for Jack and Sarah there's an option of a clean break.
Looking at MM claim to her mommy status especially the letter she states was from Jack and Sarah one thing is quite clear its seems its written with the same hand and for clear evidence is the lower case ”you” both said to be from both Jack and Sarah are the same, the “m” are the same and another example the “g” in August at top of letter is the same as what’s used for Jack. There is no doubt this is a forgery and for the circumstance around it so farfetched that’s its inexplicable. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208839096481358&set=pcb.10208839098561410&type=3&theater
I would think the prosecution have a case full of holes on the night of the JC death. While TM and MM cooperated with police and it would seem made statements and recordings. Telling a convincing lie and two people getting it straight all the time immediately after the incident is an impossible. But no doubt JM believed his past in law enforcement would allay this and these provincial police would not have the experience to deal with it and he would wrap the whole thing immediately. I know from my own angle if I was being questioned as a suspect about a serious crime and I totally innocent of I would be deferring all answers “that my lawyer would deal with it”. There is a well know saying "A man who is his own lawyer - has a fool for a client.".
A “donnybrook” referred in TM 911 call is an Irish term and refers to the old Irish cattle fairs affrays. One of such was held in Donnybrook in Dublin. Often at these events extended families engaged other families with stick and stones often the cause being land issues as Ireland was then under British rule and Irish native landholding was that of tenant farmers at the pleasure of the Anglo-Irish landlord. Evictions were often and the replacement tenant was often the focus of the dispossessed wrath.
As for the Irish views of the US criminal justice system, we are only fully aware of its un-forgivingness to wrongdoers but we have still memories of the circus of the OJ trial. For this trial what we expect the case being played out of the saga of the damsel in distress like the race distraction of the OJ trial. And pops of long unblemished experience in law enforcement having to come to the rescue to save her. And no doubt the villainy of JC and total disregards for little Jack and Sarah. I have no doubt the Ms’ initial statements to Police are full of holes and there is a clear distinct motive of the Corbett kids. There is no doubt we are among a terrible evil and a warped evil and this is for the extended M family. Mona Earnest FB page is a taunting of the C family is an evil sick taunting using little kids.
https://www.facebook.com/mona.earnest1?pnref=friends.search
and mama-bear self-righteousness is very twisted mind-set and the audaciousness in its sheer brazeness
https://www.facebook.com/sharon.martens.16
As for this an Irish v US, it’s anything as such. The Ms’ FB support some are identifiable Irish people living in Ireland. I can only presume some of these are blind to the truth or are too stupid to acquire the full story. There is also the fact that evil attract the same and that even the serial killer Ted Bundy had an extended fan base.
Was hoping to build a fuller picture if the Ms of what is known of the family how long have they being in the US and what are their ethnic background. I associate this area are to be of the “bible belt” and having association of being heavily settled by the Scots-Irish and to a lesser by Anglo-Saxon settlers in the 18 & 19[SUP]th[/SUP] century. But SM FB states she is from Tallahassee, Florida and went to high-school there don’t know if TM is from there.
The prosecution will open its case tomorrow let’s see justice served and the wicket punished.
