Nicolesque
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All I can say is from my own experience of the effects of delirium following overdose - though in my case very different: I have never touched any drugs recreationally, but took a massive dose of [a very common antihistamine which you can buy in any pharmacy here] in a serious attempt to end my life.
Now in my incident, I woke up 36 hours later in an Intensive Care Unit. This is my first thought here: Is there knowledge of whether this person was checked out medically after the incident? It would seem odd that someone could take enough of a cough syrup to induce hallucinations/delirium/loss of any control and police or paramedics not want that person checked over, even just from their own point of view to prevent potential harm in custody? From reading the effects of the drug he took, it has potential to be fatal, or at the very least to cause serious harm at very high levels.
I absolutely without a doubt know that you can have absolutely no control or awareness of what you do whilst experiencing delirium. The first thing I was told after I regained consciousness was not to be scared, but that I had a lot of bruises because the police officers who accompanied me to hospital had had to restrain me so hard (apparently because I did not treatment) because I was so combative, agitated and confused as a result of said medication - never in any trouble for this, because police said they absolutely knew that it was a result of being very very medically ill. I am not ever in any way aggressive, violent, it's about as far from 'me' as you could possibly get, but I am told I fought incredibly hard. So absolutely drugs can cause extreme behaviour.
[Oops, apologies for essay!]
Welcome to Websleuths, Livness- or, posting here, at least.
And no- thank you for your essay. Much more organized than mine had been regarding my own DXM experiences and knowledge.
I had the same question of medical care. There is no way in human biology that he took an OD even if his body is as accustomed to it as mine, and did not have an alarming BP or pulse to require medical treatment.
I've only been combative when totally blacked out drunk once, and this was in response to EMTs treating me because after being hospitalized, I was afraid of being "taken". Unfortunately the police were not as understanding in this incident and I have no recollection of it. But I fought hard enough to kick an officer's hand (allegedly) and get myself in trouble simply for that action.
I digress, but I've also unfortunately done what you described once in my life and it was so much worse than any experience I ever had on DXM. The hallucinating, the blacking out.. I was lucky to survive really of the last ten years.
I'm not surprised he is a bit underachieved and unstable. As I've been throughout my phases of functioning and then not functioning as well. But unfortunately, society expects men to be family-supporting individuals with stronger qualifications or at least EQUAL to his wife. If only she'd waited and seen some of his darker side before she decided to wed...
I just wanted to say I appreciate your anecdote and contribution, Livness. It is a helpful one to shed some insight from a personal POV on this case, even if it wasn't exactly the same drug because many people do not respond the same to various medications. While I myself have never been violent or aggressive on DXM, he may have been.
As for everyone finding it peculiar that he directly named the substance and his intention for overdosing, I will say that I have told countless, clueless EMT personnel of my escapades. They have to ask, and I was only too eager to tell. I even had one ask me to spell the name of a sub-active ingredient in Mucinex (very similar to Coricidin but the DXM is extended-release and paired with expectorant guafensin). So while there is a 75% chance IMO this was an alibi-forming move during the 911 call, I do recall instances of being highly specific with emergency staff because I knew they'd have no idea what I took or was even talking about.
I can only hope there is more medical and psychological research done on this drug to maybe mainstream information to physicians on it, but I won't be conducting any or writing a thesis on it myself. It's already consumed enough of my life and while I'm still recovering from it (day 9 now yay), I want nothing to do with it beyond keeping up with this case.
However, writing about true crime cases and profiling is a newfound aspect for my academic and professional career aspirations. I've practically lived in "darkness" for half of my life now, and it's too familiar for me to be emotionally affected by most of it. I've had to in order to analyze my own self-destructive side in an attempt to stifle it so analyzing others' would be of no ailment to me other than maybe physically should I have to evaluate some pretty evil people in my future i.e. Clarice Starling in Silence of the Lambs.
Sorry for MY essay now. I'm happy we have more information on possible motive and marital discourse and it's totally plausible he was much disliked by the wife's family prior to this incident just based on his finances alone. I wonder if Lauren had ever been "warned" about amotivated individuals like MP by her parents or family members but she just didn't see it until it was too late.