Found Deceased NC - Mariah Woods, 3, Onslow County, 27 Nov 2017 #9 *Arrest*

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I really had thought that there would be additional charges before EK Monday court appearance but I am beginning to think that isn't gonna happen. I know it takes time and they don't wanna rush but I would think by now they know how Mariah died.
 
Hey, folks! I've been following the MW case closely, as I live a few counties away from the area. Stumbled across your forum searching for new info, and I've been reading the threads the last few days. I think it's great that there's a place dedicated to finding answers and justice for MW, as well as all of the others who have been lost. Finally decided to join and maybe take part in the discussions.
I've had a lot of time on my hands, as I've been staying with my grandmother who's been in the hospital, so I decided to dig into the case and those involved. I was able to find a couple things I haven't seen posted here so far, but of course I'm way behind and unsure what's allowed exactly.
I found a complete criminal history for EK listed on an online news page that seemed somewhat sketchy but stated it's source as Alamance County clerk of courts. I have the link if y'all are interested in that.
I also found FB profiles for both AW and HC that I found interesting but it's my understanding from what I've seen here that they aren't up for review. FB also has pages dedicated or relevant to the case and I've heard the same rumors about KW's history with AW, her location etc, but no sources of where those rumors came from, and I know that this is a place for facts and not conjecture. I don't know if these things are allowed to be discussed, though.
Please let me know if any of this can be useful and thanks for all you guys do to find peace and justice for those that can't speak for themselves!

Welcome Mamabear!
 
Kelly Kerr, allowed agents to examine the area beneath her rental property after she and other residents in the home heard a loud sound emanating from their home late Sunday night.
“It sounded like something hitting a piece of wood real hard,” said Kyle Bonitz, who shares the home with Kerr.

It's confusing because it reads like Kerr heard the loud sound from under her own trailer?

Ugh, yes it is confusing. This drives me bonkers about the press these days. It is like the people writing the stories never made it past 9th grade English. Sentence structure is just not there and lends nothing to reading comprehension.
 
Hey, folks! I've been following the MW case closely, as I live a few counties away from the area. Stumbled across your forum searching for new info, and I've been reading the threads the last few days. I think it's great that there's a place dedicated to finding answers and justice for MW, as well as all of the others who have been lost. Finally decided to join and maybe take part in the discussions.
I've had a lot of time on my hands, as I've been staying with my grandmother who's been in the hospital, so I decided to dig into the case and those involved. I was able to find a couple things I haven't seen posted here so far, but of course I'm way behind and unsure what's allowed exactly.
I found a complete criminal history for EK listed on an online news page that seemed somewhat sketchy but stated it's source as Alamance County clerk of courts. I have the link if y'all are interested in that.
I also found FB profiles for both AW and HC that I found interesting but it's my understanding from what I've seen here that they aren't up for review. FB also has pages dedicated or relevant to the case and I've heard the same rumors about KW's history with AW, her location etc, but no sources of where those rumors came from, and I know that this is a place for facts and not conjecture. I don't know if these things are allowed to be discussed, though.
Please let me know if any of this can be useful and thanks for all you guys do to find peace and justice for those that can't speak for themselves!

Welcome! We are glad to have you & I hope things go okay with your grandmother
 
I think it means the Kerr's trailer, knowing LE went underneath it.

If it meant KW's trailer Kerr wouldn't know where the loud sound emanated from IMO.

"Something hitting a piece of wood real hard" -

From the report it doesn't even sound as if they might be right next door. Don't they know we want all the facts, what time, did it wake them up, was it before EK went out, was it one bang or more..? :D

If it was a flimsy chipboard internal door being slammed (pure speculation) I don't think it would make that loud of a sound outside, and inside Kerr's home, or even sound like something hitting against wood. I'm imagining someone throwing something heavy like a hammer on top of a wooden object in a shed, or chucking objects around in the shed looking for something. I think there was activity that night in/around the shed because they spotted something there and moved the crime scene tape (link provided recently). If EK put the dressers in the shed (speculation) what evidence would they see? A gouge out of the grass, could have been made anytime. I don't think they were that interested in a couple of $40 dressers anyway. Maybe something like a little hairband, Mariah could have played there, unless it had blood on it. Blood drips? maybe. Little indentations in the ground that show a certain object was put there? A piece of rope or something. (** see below note). It seems that items were flown to Quantico that day or early the next.

The 3D scanners set up Thursday. IMO they are certain by that time Mariah died at home, because Wednesday they said they believed it was a focused incident. If they thought she died at the abandoned house the crime scene would be there. Why would a trial need a 3D scan of the outside of the property? I can see the possibility that at some stage these trailers could be moved and the land redeveloped, and a jury would not be able to do a site visit. But what puzzles me is that this was a scan of the outside, and I don't see how that could have a bearing on what happened inside the trailer. Perhaps it is so that it can be proved a witness who said they saw something could actually see what they saw from their viewpoint, but then I would think the scanners would be set up from their viewpoint, not within the crime scene tape.

Photographs of the property would show just as well that EK left through a certain exit door carrying Mariah and walked to the van. I've read that these 3D scanners are used in trials to build replica models and diagrams but that seems to be a convoluted method if photographs of a patch in the grass could suffice, and whatever he did outside of the trailer doesn't seem to be dependent on or only made possible by the lay of the land or features of the trailer's exterior. I'm beginning to wonder if by setting up the scanners they didn't use them for anything and it was a ploy to get KW thinking they were focusing on a crime scene in the trailer and to start talking.

**I have a very dodgy search history on my computer. Today's was 'do dead bodies float?' Thank goodness my family knows about my macabre interests. Anyway, the results came back that a corpse in the water sinks as soon as water replaces air in the lungs and stays submerged until the decomposition process makes gases build up which bring it back up to the surface, a process that can take days or weeks. A corpse that lands in the water face first might remain on the surface because air is trapped in the lungs. The reason I searched this is because NG said her body was found face down at the bottom of the creek. I don't know her sources and since it isn't confirmed by an official source I am treating it as a possibility. We don't know what EK knew about dead bodies in water, but if I were to make a guess before I researched it, my guess would be bodies float, what is there to make a slight child get heavy enough to sink. If he thought like me, he wouldn't drive 25 miles, to avoid her turning up in local searches of water, for her then to be spotted on the surface by someone out walking or fishing. It's a bit of a long explanation, but I think he probably would have weighted her down to stop her being seen, as the aim was to keep her body and the evidence forever hidden. So getting back to the shed, I think he was probably turning stuff over in there, in the dark, looking for something heavy to attach to keep her submerged.

BBM
Same. I've told my spouse, if I die suddenly, please burn my computer with me, when they cremate me. :rolleyes: One thing about the trailer. I've lived in one before. These are older trailers too so they'd pop and crack more. They crawled under the next door trailer thinking it was more of a noise, I believe, so they'd better check the neighboring trailer out (or they heard it too but didn't want to go on record). In other words, I don't think they felt a vibration, just a noise.

I too had looked up some info and read about bodies floating face up or down. Most bodies float face down. Hence, they'd find her, face down. Sometimes a child will float face up though. I've still wondered if he put her in a container, that would submerge, they then found the container, opened it, and she was face down, in the container. I seem to remember doing some research about folks placing a body face down, or covering the body, (for the Rhoden/Gilley case). If it was someone they knew, and had cared about, iirc, they will do that. People kill other people who they care(d) about every day. There's a fine line between love and hate. I hate to go there, but, if he'd weighted her down, and she'd come to the surface, then her body was likely not in good condition. When they find bodies floating, after being weighted down, many times the hand(s), or foot, that they attached the weight to, will not be there. They also have a hard time taking into account some injuries to the facial area, arms or legs as those are normally injured by items they come in contact with, in the water. See "Ante mortem injury/ assault" in link below.

http://http://www.forensicmed.co.uk/pathology/bodies-recovered-from-water/
 
RBBM

When you combine KW not immediately thinking Mariah's dad may have taken her or even contacting him to see what he had to say with her calling Mariah her "angel" and saying she "loved her to death" but not showing concern for her daughter's well-being in the dark and cold night, possibly in the hands of some horrible stranger, it's not surprising that so many of us were suspicious.

Something else that bothers me is what KW said about her last memory of Mariah:

“My last memory of her was feeding her and putting her to bed,” Kristy told local station Channel 12. “I told her I loved her and she loved me.”

The reason I found it concerning was that in one case a mother told msm that the last time she saw her child she told him she loved him - except that the child had been dead for hours and her words were just a CYA. Also, IMO wouldn't there be a time lapse between feeding a child and putting them to bed? There seems to be information missing in KW's statement. JMO.

And yes, I get that not everyone responds the same in a crisis and we can't judge based on a few statements in msm but as sleuthers we've seen a lot of cases and if something doesn't ring true to us sometimes there's a reason. I won't condemn KW for her words but I darn well feel justified in being suspicious of her. MOO.

http://people.com/crime/mariah-woods-people-explains-north-carolina-girl/
http://www.wcti12.com/news/local-ne...missing-3-year-old-in-onslow-county/662840953
Maybe It's because I know as a mother who had a missing child. It was all miss communication,and he was safe and sound, with his oldest brother,and his GF.( we had just been calling the wrong phone number)
So I picked up on the nuances, If that's a good word for it. Like how she would start to say something then catch herself, pause, and change her wording. The fake tears, putting on a show.
 
I wonder....how many people have 4-7k$ at their fingertips? Or have relatives to help out or have the credit necessary to just go get a loan and then income to make payments. That is a lot of money.

I believe the dad when he says he could not afford to get an attorney. All of these people seem very low income and not very educated. I cannot believe that if he could actually come up with the $$, he would not have done so.

I absolutely refuse to agree (at this time and until something shows differently) that the father failed this child. I have yet to see any evidence of this. (and I tend to be the first to start blaming all the parents - Im THAT jaded)

But to answer the question....If I did not have that kind of $$, I probably would end up in jail attempting to get my kids away from that kind of environment.... which would certainly not help my kids.

Not only $4-$7 thousand retainer,but at least $3 hundred hourly charge for time spent working on a case. In addition to the retainer fee.
So the cards were stacked against him,and Mariah,and her brothers.
 
I think people are frightened to make judgements. Maybe it's a conditioning thing, or thinking we are all so different. When it comes to a defenceless 3 year old and a mother I say you can predict what her reaction will look like. Fear. Being unable to breathe normally. It is instinctual to think of what is going on in the child's mind, unless there is a mental deficit with the mother not being able to empathise with her child. Even leaving a pre-schooler with a babysitter for the first time, where you know they are being cared for, you still worry that your child must think you've abandoned them first time without you. Not knowing where they are takes it off the scale.
 
Good point. I got 'coons and squirrels in my ceiling, esp this time of year. It sounds like they are having a straight up party above my bedroom some nights.

Oh yea...Pro Tip: if you have critters in your ceiling....it's a really bad idea to watch scary movies in the dark, there's a 100% chance one of them is going to make a BOOM when the demon/ghost/killer/nervous cat does something in the movie . :-)

Completely off topic but if you toss a few boxes of moth balls in your attic, those critters will leave. I do it every spring when they are looking for nesting spots.
 
Maybe It's because I know as a mother who had a missing child. It was all miss communication,and he was safe and sound, with his oldest brother,and his GF.( we had just been calling the wrong phone number)
So I picked up on the nuances, If that's a good word for it. Like how she would start to say something then catch herself, pause, and change her wording. The fake tears, putting on a show.

So thankful your child was ok. I have wondered about this many times as I have no personal experience with a missing child. If this is overstepping and asking too much personal info regarding your experience please just ignore my post.

Was your child missing for hours, police involved, removed from your home while they searched, media asking questions etc. I have always thought I would be hysterical a complete basket case but I do wonder if as hours went by all the activity, people asking the same questions over and over, standing on the sidelines watching but unable to search because police wont let me, along with all the worry would I become numb, would the tears stop, would I appear zoned out simply because of being scared for my child and not having answers or knowing if I would ever see them again. Of course I would want everything done to find my child and would welcome the media attention, the police I just wonder how the physical and emotional toll would affect how others perceive my actions.
 
Ugh, yes it is confusing. This drives me bonkers about the press these days. It is like the people writing the stories never made it past 9th grade English. Sentence structure is just not there and lends nothing to reading comprehension.

And none of them have editors anymore...
 
Hey, folks! I've been following the MW case closely, as I live a few counties away from the area. Stumbled across your forum searching for new info, and I've been reading the threads the last few days. I think it's great that there's a place dedicated to finding answers and justice for MW, as well as all of the others who have been lost. Finally decided to join and maybe take part in the discussions.
I've had a lot of time on my hands, as I've been staying with my grandmother who's been in the hospital, so I decided to dig into the case and those involved. I was able to find a couple things I haven't seen posted here so far, but of course I'm way behind and unsure what's allowed exactly.
I found a complete criminal history for EK listed on an online news page that seemed somewhat sketchy but stated it's source as Alamance County clerk of courts. I have the link if y'all are interested in that.
I also found FB profiles for both AW and HC that I found interesting but it's my understanding from what I've seen here that they aren't up for review. FB also has pages dedicated or relevant to the case and I've heard the same rumors about KW's history with AW, her location etc, but no sources of where those rumors came from, and I know that this is a place for facts and not conjecture. I don't know if these things are allowed to be discussed, though.
Please let me know if any of this can be useful and thanks for all you guys do to find peace and justice for those that can't speak for themselves!

:fireworks: :welcome: :fireworks:

The link to EK's criminal record would be great! I think we've found a lot but there might be more.

Thanks for participating here and joining!
 
Uh oh! Something just ran thru my mind. With KW knowing her son had been SA, supposed to be monitored around other children (Mariah being one), allegations of Mariah having been SA by EK, nobody working in that household, do you think they might have been filming and selling child *advertiser censored*? Makes me sick to think about, but ..........


That is a HUGE stretch. I would think there would have been evidence of that in the home and EK would have that charge too, they were anxious to charge
him with anything they could come up with. On another note, the charges he is charged with, the concealing, the stealing the dressers etc.... do those charges merritt a one million dollar bond? As always everything is MOO
 
That is a HUGE stretch. I would think there would have been evidence of that in the home and EK would have that charge too, they were anxious to charge
him with anything they could come up with. On another note, the charges he is charged with, the concealing, the stealing the dressers etc.... do those charges merritt a one million dollar bond? As always everything is MOO
IMO we might have seen mention of it in the latest CPS documents too. Saying KW was aware is quite different from filming etc.

I don't know how they calculate bond.
 
That is a HUGE stretch. I would think there would have been evidence of that in the home and EK would have that charge too, they were anxious to charge
him with anything they could come up with. On another note, the charges he is charged with, the concealing, the stealing the dressers etc.... do those charges merritt a one million dollar bond? As always everything is MOO

I agree they were not filming, but with all the sexual abuse allegations floating around I do wonder if there will be charges for child *advertiser censored* after they have had time to examine computers and such.
 
Kristy Woods and Kimrey have a history with the Onslow County Sheriff’s Office, including: Kimrey’s arrest in 2012; an assault of a juvenile at the home in 2016; property damage at the home in 2016; and communicated threats, neighborhood disputes and a “suspicious incident” involving Kimrey two days after Mariah was reported missing, according to county records.
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article188156729.html

A suspicious incident two days after Mariah went missing? I wonder what this is all about? Is this new or something I have just overlooked?
 
The incident after her death was listed in his criminal history back in the thread somewhere. He got into it with two other people. I thought it was at AW's house but they aren't listed as victims, it's someone else.

Kristy Woods and Kimrey have a history with the Onslow County Sheriff’s Office, including: Kimrey’s arrest in 2012; an assault of a juvenile at the home in 2016; property damage at the home in 2016; and communicated threats, neighborhood disputes and a “suspicious incident” involving Kimrey two days after Mariah was reported missing, according to county records.
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article188156729.html

A suspicious incident two days after Mariah went missing? I wonder what this is all about? Is this new or something I have just overlooked?
 
Kristy Woods and Kimrey have a history with the Onslow County Sheriff’s Office, including: Kimrey’s arrest in 2012; an assault of a juvenile at the home in 2016; property damage at the home in 2016; and communicated threats, neighborhood disputes and a “suspicious incident” involving Kimrey two days after Mariah was reported missing, according to county records.
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article188156729.html

A suspicious incident two days after Mariah went missing? I wonder what this is all about? Is this new or something I have just overlooked?

Was this related to the theft of the dressers?
 
Kristy Woods and Kimrey have a history with the Onslow County Sheriff’s Office, including: Kimrey’s arrest in 2012; an assault of a juvenile at the home in 2016; property damage at the home in 2016; and communicated threats, neighborhood disputes and a “suspicious incident” involving Kimrey two days after Mariah was reported missing, according to county records.
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article188156729.html

A suspicious incident two days after Mariah went missing? I wonder what this is all about? Is this new or something I have just overlooked?

  • The sheriff’s office responded to the 2100 block of N.C. 172 in Sneads Ferry on Nov. 29, two days after Mariah was reported missing, for reports of communicating threats, neighborhood disputes, and a suspicious incident that isn’t elaborated on. Claudette Walker is named as the victim with Amanda Hawkesworth and Kimrey named as others involved.

http://www.jdnews.com/news/20171205/mariahs-father-speaks-on-cps-documents-memories-of-his-daughter
 
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