NC - Zahra Clare Baker, 10, Hickory, 9 Oct 2010 - #6

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impatientredhead said:
People like to feel like things like this could not happen to them or near them so they identify the one "who could have stopped it" and point all the blame that direction.

Then they can feel superior and safe in a little bubble where if they thought their niece was being abused they would never ever be left powerless and their attempts to help unheeded.

Self preservation.
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Yes.... happened to me when I worked (of all places) a vet clinic. I was a receptionist who received a phone call about a cat being hit by a car, told them to come in ASAP. When they arrived, I saw the cat was clearly dead but escorted them to a room anyway. Doc saw them, and as they were leaving they were angry and pointed the finger at me and said, "It's all YOUR fault!! You didn't tell us how bad it was!!" It wasn't my fault, I had no crystal ball, I did my job correctly, and as a 20-year-old, I was mortified. I cried when they left. Doc said to me, "Sometimes people just need someone to blame, and it's usually the closest person they can find." Still makes me feel bad to this day but really explained a lot about human nature to a 20-year-old.
 
Cubby said:
I agree. Still, I can't help wishing a professional could have examined the photo's and child to determine if her appearance was due to abuse or medical reasons. Respectfully, while we are sitting here discussing our own caution as posters, if those who knew this child IRL had taken the same caution with regards to this childs appearance we may not have ever heard this childs name or at least not heard of her in relation to a true crime forum. It would have been so much nicer to learn of Zahra Claire in our 'news that makes you smile' forum reading of some incredible things she likely would have accomplished had she lived.

heavy sigh... :(
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Oh, again.... Could not be a more accurate post, imo.

Cubby maybe we need a new forum- "News that Makes You Smile and Then Cry Your Eyes Out and Then Smile Again". We could post her- because she is an excellent start to that. Then we can start posting about all of the things she accomplished.
(For example, she has made us all smile quite a lot I think.)
 
laytonian said:
Good thoughts.

WARNING this is all GRAPHIC: What if her body was put into the car, and then the woodchipper was towed with the truck to a *different* area than the mulch pile? If the woodchipper had been subsequently used at the mulch pile, there'd be "hits" for human remains - yet the major quantity may be elsewhere. After disposing of a body in that manner, anyone who got into their truck would have fluids on them.

If the search truly IS over at the mulch site, that's not where the disposal was done. It took weeks to gather up the few ounces of Helle Crafts' remains.
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I thought this also. Not that I think these two are particularly bright, but they would have to dumb to do this at his work site where they know LE is going to search eventually. The question is where would they do it and leave the remains.
 
tarabull said:
Brings me back to thinking about those "passport" pics...

Wouldn't Adam need some sort of consent from bio mom to have Zahra out of country.

I suppose it depends entirely on the circumstances that put Zahra in his care & custody.

Such a twisted web....and stepmonster.

Zahra many many hearts are breaking for you.
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If he is the custodial parent and she has no access or never had access then no, I also gather she never paid child support. If the bio mum was trying to track them down or had tracked them down and started proceedings then maybe. This doesn't seem likely though from what I have heard so far.
 
I just had a thought... but where are her kitties????? (the ones that they wouldn't let her have at the new house)

we know the dogs hit on blood in the woodchippers but was it just human blood? Just wondering out loud...
 
''She's got a hard-drugs look to her skin. Almost meth-like. ''

...yes, exactly. And I've handled clients with this addiction. A difficult one, because it's so difficult to stop. And some people can become out of control or violent when using.

It sounds like one of those cases where the SM was very narcissitic. She may have resented the little girl getting attention, and may have come to resent the little girl altogether. Narcissists look on those around them that they 'like' or are 'connected' to as a part of themselves. If that part of themself responds in a way they don't like or can't understand, their affection turns to dislike, anger, and indifference.

The woman sounds violent and if she were under the influence of crystal meth, this could have made her more out of control.
 
I know someone that works in child services in Oz and if the bio mum paid support she would have known where they lived in Oz and also when they left the country. I don't know HOW she got out of paying support, cos she should have paid something. I know of cases where people have been pulled off international flights because they were behind in their payments. You wouldn't believe the power this department has in this country.
 
tarabull said:
"Rode hard & put away wet"

I could be wrong....you decide.

:waitasec:
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LOL - I don't know what is more entertaining: Your avatar (so cute) or your comment (one of my favorite descriptions).
 
In partial defense of the NC child welfare workers -- the sad truth is that even if they had determined she was in danger, they might not have had a place to take her to. If NC is anything like MA, the foster care spots are full, the group homes are full, even the emergency care is full. Healthy kids have spent the night in hospital wards because it was the only safe bed to be found.

The problem isn't budget. The problem is not enough foster parents. The economy has caused many of the people who used to volunteer to require services themselves, and nobody has replaced them. There are plenty of sanctimonious people ready to scream when something goes wrong, but not so many willing to reach out and help a troubled child and maybe prevent a tragedy.
 
tiredblondy said:
I'm absolutely sure I can assume that Zahara received no medical care once she entered the USA. Just my opinion.
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Overall I agree. Though that got me thinking. What are the laws in NC for annual exams required by the state for school?

In IL, I must provide the school with evidence of annual dental exams and this year, or last year, an eye exam is required in 2nd in addition to KG and 5th IIRC. Surely there were some required medical exams for this child to be enrolled in the public school system for the duration she attended public school.

I also wonder, *if* the school did not receive the proper documentation those exams were completed and if perhaps there was excessive absents due to abuse wouldn't there have been some record?

This didn't just happen after school let out at the end of the 2009/2010 school year. This abuse had to have started shortly after Zahra and her dad arrived in the states. I'm curious to know..... I'm sure as time goes on more info will be released to the public just as it was in the Aveion Lewis case. I can't help but think about the searchers today experiencing the same emotions those who searched and found little Aveion in a landfill experienced.
 
gibby207 said:
Yes.... happened to me when I worked (of all places) a vet clinic. I was a receptionist who received a phone call about a cat being hit by a car, told them to come in ASAP. When they arrived, I saw the cat was clearly dead but escorted them to a room anyway. Doc saw them, and as they were leaving they were angry and pointed the finger at me and said, "It's all YOUR fault!! You didn't tell us how bad it was!!" It wasn't my fault, I had no crystal ball, I did my job correctly, and as a 20-year-old, I was mortified. I cried when they left. Doc said to me, "Sometimes people just need someone to blame, and it's usually the closest person they can find." Still makes me feel bad to this day but really explained a lot about human nature to a 20-year-old.
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I hope the Bentley girl has a strong support system and gets at least a handful of supportive posts to weather the burial coming her way.

People cannot identify with the stepmom, they won't lash out her nearly as harshly as they are to bury this girl who should have saved the girl when CPS, teachers, and her father didn't/couldn't/wouldn't.
 
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