Found Deceased ND - Savanna Lafontaine-Greywind, 22, pregnant, Fargo, 19 Aug 2017 #1 *Arrests*

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D is also a registered sex offender

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ann1989 said:
D is also a registered sex offender

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Apartment manager said she was not the woman in the apartment. Is there other evidence that ties D to the apartments? Why did the two residents insist it was her? Are they involved somehow?
 
georgiajean said:
Apartment manager said she was not the woman in the apartment. Is there other evidence that ties D to the apartments? Why did the two residents insist it was her? Are they involved somehow?
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Could be. Wonder if those are the same to that heard noises coming from the upstairs restroom

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I'm only on page 3 so far and dont know much about this case but already Im leaning towards the woman wanting the baby and holding her somewhere til she has it. Someone else must have been involved to get her out of the apartment building too.
 
lindamichelle1 said:
I'm only on page 3 so far and dont know much about this case but already Im leaning towards the woman wanting the baby and holding her somewhere til she has it. Someone else must have been involved to get her out of the apartment building too.
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That would involve a lot of careful planning and timing. If that's the case, and it could be, they didn't put much thought into their plan. Her family knew exactly where she was and why, they knew she should have been back shortly, and they knew enough to call the police within a couple of hours because she didn't return, which they knew was highly suspicious.

It's a matter of finding out who is not being truthful. The woman in the apartment she visited? The other people in the apt. building? The woman the neighbors claim lived there although that woman claims she never met Savanna? The apartment manager?

I also initially thought someone wanted the baby. But if that's the case, why go through the trouble of holding someone hostage for a month until the baby is born. Wouldn't it be a lot easier to wait until the baby is born and then snatch it?
 
I did a log of the known details so far, to help. Please add if there is anything not on the list (copy/paste and add) and provide source. :)
List of Facts as of 8-24-17
• SLG, 8 months pregnant, Native American, 22 years old, lives in ground floor/basement level apartment in a 3-story, 7-unit apartment building with her parents and brother at 2825 9th St. N. http://www.valleynewslive.com/conte...or-woman-whos-8-month-pregnant-441159853.html (Has been incorrectly reported as 10th st, but google maps verifies the apartment shown in media footage is on 9th St.)
• She moved to this apartment Sept 2016 (as per her FB post about carpet fees after moving).
• SLG and boyfriend were set to move into their own apartment together Sept. 1, their daughter is due Sept 20. http://www.wday.com/news/4315530-family-and-friends-missing-pregnant-fargo-woman-looking-answers
• SLG and boyfriend have been together 7 years. She detailed their courtship in FB posts, indicating they were thoughtful and took things very slow.
• On Saturday, Augus 19th....t SLG texted with her boyfriend and mom around 1:30 pm.
• Ordered pizza before leaving apartment.
• Left keys and wallet. Car in parking lot. Phone may be with her.
• Went to 3rd floor apartment to help with modeling/fitting a dress. http://nypost.com/2017/08/21/pregnant-woman-goes-missing-after-visiting-neighbor/
• The neighbor knocked on their door and offered her $20 to help her with fitting a dress. http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Mother concerned due to previous interactions with the neighbor (SLG talked on FB about problems with her clothes being taken from the community washer/dryer, and seeing a woman/this woman wearing them). http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Was supposed to give younger brother ride to work before 3 pm. Brother goes upstairs around 2:30, knocks on door, no answer. http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Father goes upstairs, knocks on door, is told that they aren't finished yet and SLG can't come. http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Mother drives younger brother to work. http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Around 4:30, mother goes upstairs, knocks on door, is told that SLG has left. She reported SLG missing at about 4:30. http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...appearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Investigation has included 3 searches of the neighbor's 3rd floor apartment, searches with dogs, the Red River, and cell phone records. http://www.wday.com/news/4316252-police-hope-use-technology-will-lead-them-missing-fargo-woman
• Fargo PD asked Grand Forks PD to conduct a search in and around the 1800 block of 2nd Ave. N. to follow up information and corroborate info. http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...fargo-police-say-about-missing-pregnant-woman
• Two neighbors CM and RG who lived in a 2nd floor apartment, said they heard loud banging noises in the bathroom area of the apartment above them, for about 15-20 min and then the shower running. this occured between 1:30-2 (not clear if this is the same apartment as the woman with the dress?) pm.http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...fargo-police-say-about-missing-pregnant-woman
• A 3rd floor resident, HWH was arrested on an unrelated charge (failing to pay a fine) and he was released after paying it. http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...fargo-police-say-about-missing-pregnant-woman
• An unidentified woman who lives in the apartment with HWH is not the same woman as DK, who was mistakenly ID'd. Verified by PD. http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...fargo-police-say-about-missing-pregnant-woman
• Looking at the building on google maps, it looks like there are 2 apartments on each floor, but there are 7 units in the building, so maybe one floor has 3 smaller units? Likely there are 2 3rd floor apartments, so it isn’t clear if HWH is in the same apartment as the woman who did the dress fitting.
• Source that verifies much of these details: http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
 
Did anyone else notice, in the news video/story where DK claims her innocence & says she doesn't know anyone at the apartment building; after speaking with CM & RG and being shown a picture of DK on their phone, the reporter goes BACK to DK to ask her about the picture. At that point DK admits it's her in the pic but still claims she doesn't know them.

That stood out to me. Although to be fair I didn't get enough of a glimpse of the pic to know whether it was a personal picture or one "borrowed" from FB, etc.

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flute4peace said:
Did anyone else notice, in the news video/story where DK claims her innocence & says she doesn't know anyone at the apartment building; after speaking with CM & RG and being shown a picture of DK on their phone, the reporter goes BACK to DK to ask her about the picture. At that point DK admits it's her in the pic but still claims she doesn't know them.

That stood out to me. Although to be fair I didn't get enough of a glimpse of the pic to know whether it was a personal picture or one "borrowed" from FB, etc.

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I believe DK. At the end of this clip, the reporter states that apt. manager called CM & RG and told them the name of the woman in the apt Savanna visited is NOT DK. It would be easy enough to prove if DK ever knew Savanna or ever lived in that apt building so I don't think she's lying.

DK lives with her boyfriend in a different area of town and her boyfriend is NOT the guy who lives in apt Savanna visited. Another woman lives there and she's the person who asked Savanna to come to the apt.

https://www.wday.com/news/4316781-police-receive-new-leads-connection-missing-pregnant-woman
 
How many apartments are in that building? I was under the impression there was one per floor, meaning 3 apartments. Is this correct?
 
alexwood said:
Yes. At 2:30 p.m. the brother knocked -- no answer -- followed by Savanna's father (between 2:30 p.m. and shortly before 3 p.m., when Savanna was to have driven her brother to his job).

The father DID get an answer at the door. The neighbor said that Savanna wasn't finished helping her yet.

So Savanna's mother drove the brother to his job, since Savannna was "tied up" (poor choice of words here, but maybe true).
When mother came back, Savanna was not home. Mom went upstairs and neighbor said "she left." Mom reported Savanna missing at 4:30 p.m.
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BBM:

If Savanna was still there at the time her Dad went up, then why couldn't Savanna speak for herself that they weren't finished yet? Even if Savanna had been in another room changing out of the dress or whatever, she could still have called out to her Dad they were not finished yet. Why did the neighbor speak for her?

I really, really, really want to know what happened to Savanna and her unborn baby.

*Saying prayers for Savanna and baby.
 
georgiajean said:
I did a log of the known details so far, to help. Please add if there is anything not on the list (copy/paste and add) and provide source. :)
List of Facts as of 8-24-17
• SLG, 8 months pregnant, Native American, 22 years old, lives in ground floor/basement level apartment in a 3-story, 7-unit apartment building with her parents and brother at 2825 9th St. N. http://www.valleynewslive.com/conte...or-woman-whos-8-month-pregnant-441159853.html (Has been incorrectly reported as 10th st, but google maps verifies the apartment shown in media footage is on 9th St.)
• She moved to this apartment Sept 2016 (as per her FB post about carpet fees after moving).
• SLG and boyfriend were set to move into their own apartment together Sept. 1, their daughter is due Sept 20. http://www.wday.com/news/4315530-family-and-friends-missing-pregnant-fargo-woman-looking-answers
• SLG and boyfriend have been together 7 years. She detailed their courtship in FB posts, indicating they were thoughtful and took things very slow.
• On Saturday, Augus 19th....t SLG texted with her boyfriend and mom around 1:30 pm.
• Ordered pizza before leaving apartment.
• Left keys and wallet. Car in parking lot. Phone may be with her.
• Went to 3rd floor apartment to help with modeling/fitting a dress. http://nypost.com/2017/08/21/pregnant-woman-goes-missing-after-visiting-neighbor/
• The neighbor knocked on their door and offered her $20 to help her with fitting a dress. http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Mother concerned due to previous interactions with the neighbor (SLG talked on FB about problems with her clothes being taken from the community washer/dryer, and seeing a woman/this woman wearing them). http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Was supposed to give younger brother ride to work before 3 pm. Brother goes upstairs around 2:30, knocks on door, no answer. http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Father goes upstairs, knocks on door, is told that they aren't finished yet and SLG can't come. http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Mother drives younger brother to work. http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Around 4:30, mother goes upstairs, knocks on door, is told that SLG has left. She reported SLG missing at about 4:30. http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...appearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Investigation has included 3 searches of the neighbor's 3rd floor apartment, searches with dogs, the Red River, and cell phone records. http://www.wday.com/news/4316252-police-hope-use-technology-will-lead-them-missing-fargo-woman
• Fargo PD asked Grand Forks PD to conduct a search in and around the 1800 block of 2nd Ave. N. to follow up information and corroborate info. http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...fargo-police-say-about-missing-pregnant-woman
• Two neighbors CM and RG who lived in a 2nd floor apartment, said they heard loud banging noises in the bathroom area of the apartment above them, for about 15-20 min and then the shower running. this occured between 1:30-2 (not clear if this is the same apartment as the woman with the dress?) pm.http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...fargo-police-say-about-missing-pregnant-woman
• A 3rd floor resident, HWH was arrested on an unrelated charge (failing to pay a fine) and he was released after paying it. http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...fargo-police-say-about-missing-pregnant-woman
• An unidentified woman who lives in the apartment with HWH is not the same woman as DK, who was mistakenly ID'd. Verified by PD. http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...fargo-police-say-about-missing-pregnant-woman
• Looking at the building on google maps, it looks like there are 2 apartments on each floor, but there are 7 units in the building, so maybe one floor has 3 smaller units? Likely there are 2 3rd floor apartments, so it isn’t clear if HWH is in the same apartment as the woman who did the dress fitting.
• Source that verifies much of these details: http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
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I'm just joining this thread and want to thank you, georgiajean, for this summary! It's very helpful.

What a confusing and worrying case! :scared:

My questions at the moment are, does the app building have an elevator, or how did SLG get up to the third floor for the supposed dress fitting? I can't imagine it would be easy to climb 3 flights of stairs up and back down in her condition. Aren't 8 months pregnant women super careful about stairs?

Is it confirmed that Savanna ever went up to the woman's apartment? Maybe they intercepted her right after she left her own apartment, and later pretended she is in the third floor apartment to (successfully) buy time, although she never was?

Has the whole building been searched?
 
FlossyMay said:
How many apartments are in that building? I was under the impression there was one per floor, meaning 3 apartments. Is this correct?
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It looks like 3 on the left and 3 on the right of the front door = 6 apartments ( the 1st floor is the basement apartment, the windows are at ground level, above that is the 2nd floor and the top is the 3rd floor). The stairwell is in the middle, the windows above the front door is the stairwell continuing up to the 3rd floor. I can almost guarantee that there is no elevator.

Where the 7th apartment, I don't know, perhaps a smaller apartment in the back ?

JerseyGirl said:
Here is a photo of what I assume is the apartment complex:

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http://www.wdaz.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
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Elainera said:
I'm just joining this thread and want to thank you, georgiajean, for this summary! It's very helpful.

What a confusing and worrying case! :scared:

My questions at the moment are, does the app building have an elevator, or how did SLG get up to the third floor for the supposed dress fitting? I can't imagine it would be easy to climb 3 flights of stairs up and back down in her condition. Aren't 8 months pregnant women super careful about stairs?

Is it confirmed that Savanna ever went up to the woman's apartment? Maybe they intercepted her right after she left her own apartment, and later pretended she is in the third floor apartment to (successfully) buy time, although she never was?

Has the whole building been searched?
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And, as another poster (Alice---, I think) pointed out, there may be an access to the attic in the ceiling of that 3rd floor apartment. However, I thought that was important before I heard about the noise in the bathtub reported by the neighbors living below the 3rd floor apartment.
 
Police said they used dogs and visited the neighbor's apartment three times, wouldn't the dogs have picked up Savanna's scent, whether it be in that apartment, attic, or crawl space?
 
JerseyGirl said:
Police said they used dogs and visited the neighbor's apartment three times, wouldn't the dogs have picked up Savanna's scent, whether it be in that apartment, attic, or crawl space?
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The attic, if there is one, probably wasn't used. I feel that she was removed from that apartment in some way even before she was reported missing at 4:30 p.m. on Saturday, and before any searches took place.

All Just My Opinion, of course.
 
georgiajean said:
I did a log of the known details so far, to help. Please add if there is anything not on the list (copy/paste and add) and provide source. :)
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Ok, I'm updating:

List of Facts as of 8-24-17

• Savanna, a member of the Spirit Lake tribe, was born in Belcourt, N.D. Her father is a Spirit Lake member, while her mother is a member of the Turtle Mountain tribe. Her family moved to Fargo when she was young, but returned to the Spirit Lake Reservation, near Devils Lake, when she was 9 years old. She met her boyfriend in middle school in Devils Lake, and they have been together for seven years. Like her, he is a Spirit Lake member. She graduated from Warwick Public School on the reservation and then attended Lake Region State College in Devils Lake, earning a certificate as a certified nursing assistant. She had moved to Fargo in January 2016 for her job as a certified nursing assistant for a senior citizens residence on 51st Street South, that was later purchased by Eventide Fargo. Other family members moved to the city a few months later. Her boyfriend was living and working in Minneapolis when she became pregnant, and moved to Fargo in anticipation of their daughter's birth. http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/ne...appearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• SLG, 8 months pregnant, Native American, 22 years old, lives in ground floor/basement level apartment in a 3-story, 7-unit apartment building with her parents and brother at 2825 9th St. N. http://www.valleynewslive.com/conte...or-woman-whos-8-month-pregnant-441159853.html (Has been incorrectly reported as 10th st, but google maps verifies the apartment shown in media footage is on 9th St.)
• She moved to this apartment Sept 2016 (as per her FB post about carpet fees after moving).
• SLG and boyfriend were set to move into their own apartment together Sept. 1, their daughter is due Sept 20. http://www.wday.com/news/4315530-family-and-friends-missing-pregnant-fargo-woman-looking-answers
• SLG and boyfriend have been together 7 years. She detailed their courtship in FB posts, indicating they were thoughtful and took things very slow.
• On Saturday, Augus 19th....t SLG texted with her boyfriend and mom around 1:30 pm.
• Ordered pizza before leaving apartment.
• Left keys and wallet. Car in parking lot. Phone may be with her.
• Went to 3rd floor apartment to help with modeling/fitting a dress. http://nypost.com/2017/08/21/pregnant-woman-goes-missing-after-visiting-neighbor/
• The neighbor knocked on their door and offered her $20 to help her with fitting a dress. http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Mother concerned due to previous interactions with the neighbor (SLG talked on FB about problems with her clothes being taken from the community washer/dryer, and seeing a woman/this woman wearing them). http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Was supposed to give younger brother ride to work before 3 pm. Brother goes upstairs around 2:30, knocks on door, no answer. http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Father goes upstairs, knocks on door, is told that they aren't finished yet and SLG can't come. http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Mother drives younger brother to work. http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Around 4:30, mother goes upstairs, knocks on door, is told that SLG has left. She reported SLG missing at about 4:30. http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...appearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
• Investigation has included 3 searches of the neighbor's 3rd floor apartment, searches with dogs, the Red River, and cell phone records. http://www.wday.com/news/4316252-police-hope-use-technology-will-lead-them-missing-fargo-woman
• Fargo PD asked Grand Forks PD to conduct a search in and around the 1800 block of 2nd Ave. N. to follow up information and corroborate info. http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...fargo-police-say-about-missing-pregnant-woman
• Two neighbors CM and RG who lived in a 2nd floor apartment, said they heard loud banging noises in the bathroom area of the apartment above them, for about 15-20 min and then the shower running. this occured between 1:30-2 (not clear if this is the same apartment as the woman with the dress?) pm.http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...fargo-police-say-about-missing-pregnant-woman
• A 3rd floor resident, HWH was arrested on an unrelated charge (failing to pay a fine) and he was released after paying it. http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...fargo-police-say-about-missing-pregnant-woman
• An unidentified woman who lives in the apartment with HWH is not the same woman as DK, who was mistakenly ID'd. Verified by PD. http://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...fargo-police-say-about-missing-pregnant-woman
• Looking at the building on google maps, it looks like there are 2 apartments on each floor, but there are 7 units in the building, so maybe one floor has 3 smaller units? Likely there are 2 3rd floor apartments, so it isn’t clear if HWH is in the same apartment as the woman who did the dress fitting.
• Source that verifies much of these details: http://www.dglobe.com/news/4316286-somethings-wrong-disappearance-pregnant-fargo-woman-still-mystery
 
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