New book coming out by Paula Woodward

[buggiegirl]

Oh I know, so annoying!!!! :gaah: So something is missing? Big deal. BR could have hid something. It means nothing.

Well really without knowing what it actually is that is missing (if anything really is), we can't say it means nothing. But they know that and that's why they drop stupid hints like that and don't explain them. It leaves open doubt that there doesn't really need to be.

 

[kanzz]

Lmao! Reminds me of this woman who is also a Ramsey apologist. AND she says OJ couldn't have done it. When I asked her why not? She said, "Because he is from Buffalo." I kid you not!! People like them including Lacy, run by emotions.

I saw a bio of PBF on History. That's so interesting you have that "connection." You could write a book on that and your grandma! I would read it!

Grandma was a very odd woman who couldn't remember my name (she lived 20 miles away and saw me fairly regularly), and played Bingo for a living by the time I came along. Yeah, I don't know either, but she won. Consistently.

After Bonnie and Clyde got gunned down, LE toured their car around the 4-state area with all the mess still intact. They made a stop across the street from grandma's and my mom and dad went to see it - blood and brains, etc. splattered everywhere inside. Can you imagine? Cool, huh?

Yeah, I could write a book. Not about grandma, though. About my crazy, mixed-up, umm.. adventurous life. In fact, I started one once, but lost everything in a move. argh. Haven't had the gumption to start over.

That Barbara Goss is a trip, right? Her books look perfectly putrid, imo.

 

[BBB167893]

Thought I would put this here.

I had to read that twice to make anything out of it, but it sounds to me like there were a lot of problems with this analysis.

 

[BBB167893]

Sorry I couldn't help watching. It was like watching a train wreck. She appeared very confused and discombobulated. Didn't even know there was news about updated DNA testing. Good God, don't IDIs keep up with the news?!!!?

That's what I picked up on. She didn't seem to know what she was talking about or what anyone was asking. (Not that I'm surprised.) Looks like we can send her to the dead-letter office.

 

[BBB167893]

Paula Woodward has about as much credibility as my grandmother - who harbored criminals in her boarding house (including Pretty Boy Floyd) and ran shine out of southwest Missouri during the prohibition days, then had her son-in-law take the rap for her when the operation got busted. Twice. He did hard time both times.

IOW - zero credibility. I don't trust a word she says. She's a sock puppet for JR. That is all. End of story.

She kind of looks like Lambchop, now that I think about it!

 

[kanzz]

Whoa, what the heck is the bit about the souvenir taken from the crime scene?? Irritating when people in the know (supposedly) drop tidbits and then say "sorry, confidential, can't explain what I'm talking about" and nope out of there.

This "souvenir" issue has been bugging me. It aggravates me when people think they have a leg up, especially when they don't.
At first, I thought it was mere speculation - as in, most serial killers keep souvenirs.
There are some references to a souvenir and JB to be found via google. None are credible.. all are red herrings:

Made for Each Other

When Daxis boasts of removing JonBenet's panties and keeping them as a souvenir, Tracey feeds him little-known details about one of the more peculiar aspects of the case: JonBenet was found wearing oversized panties, size twelve rather than her usual six."

JONBENET: DNA RULES OUT PARENTS 12/16/2004

There is one man, who investigators refer to as the "Candy Cane Man," who had one of the decorative candy canes that lined the Ramsey's front walk on the night of the murder. He says he removed the item a week after the murder "because it was there."
But it turns out that some of the canes were missing the next day, when JonBenet's body was discovered. Investigators fear they may have been taken by the killer or killers as a bizarre souvenir –- which led to this man, who admitted he once had an obsession with JonBenet, and built a shrine to her that he now keeps on his computer.

Finally, I found this. THE probable source of the biggest red herring of all - Lou RedHerring Smit - from his depo in the Wolf Case, 01/09/2002:
Lou Smit Deposition - Wolf Case - January 9, 2002

Q. Why? Why would some -- why would, in the mind of a killer, someone take that item out of the crime scene?
A. I believe it was for a souvenir. I believe he took it with him. There is no reason to leave the broken end, leave the middle end, and take the other portion. It has to be somewhere. It is not in the house. The killer took it with him.

 

[Ambitioned]

Lou RedHerring Smit

Excellent name!!! :laughing:

It has to be somewhere. It is not in the house. The killer took it with him.

Bullcaca. It could be swallowed, thrown in golf bag, garbage cans, run down disposal, any number of things. Any of the Ramseys could have done this.

 

[Rott Mom]

EEKS...My hubby's family celebrated Christmas this past Sunday. My niece's gift to me was PW's book.
Although I thanked her, I will not read it - it's Ramsey generated. There are new pictures all provided
by who else...JR. Give me a break.

 

[zencompass]

Aw - her heart was in the right place. She knew this case was of interest to you.

Her thoughtfulness is enough of a present. Therefore you don't need to read the book.

 

[Rott Mom]

Aw - her heart was in the right place. She knew this case was of interest to you.

Her thoughtfulness is enough of a present. Therefore you don't need to read the book.

Yes, absolutely - nothing against my niece. Her heart was in the right place.

 

[zencompass]

And for the record, I was serious about thoughtfulness being the gift itself.

 

[Rott Mom]

I couldn't agree more. Thank you.

 

[kanzz]

Excellent name!!! :laughing:



[/I]Bullcaca. It could be swallowed, thrown in golf bag, garbage cans, run down disposal, any number of things. Any of the Ramseys could have done this.

Thanks, Ambitioned. Everything about Smith is a RH.. right?

 

[zencompass]

As for P. W.'s book - I agree that when there are incorrect or misleading statements made in order to "fit" a certain theory that is when I put a book down.

I wouldn't read this book for that reason. We can all delineate fact from fiction - thank goodness !

 

[Userid]

^ I understand these approaches but I try to read/watch everything I can, even if I disagree with it. It's always good to explore both sides of an argument and it strengthens your argument even more when you know and disprove the other side's points.

 

[kanzz]

[–]PaulaWoodwardAMA [S] [score hidden] 12 minutes ago
Here's the information that I have about whether Burke may or may not be a suspect. The first comes from Colorado Human Services, the child protection agency. It was mandatory that they interview Burke and they did so in early January. That's when they wrote their report where they said "It is clear from his interview that Burke did not see his sister, JonBenet's, death. That then leaves the question for those who theorize Burke hit JonBenet with a hammer, there is a disagreement between your theory and that of Colorado Human Services and their Child Protection Team. You can decide who you think is right. Good question.

BBM

I owe you an apology for derailing this topic by comparing PW to my grandmother the other day. LOL. Let me try to focus. The point here is - where did she find that quote? (which she failed to end quote, but never mind that).

So, I googled it. Nothing. Zero, nada, zilch. I have to question if this is even legit. She says this was mandatory, from Colorado Human Services, the child protection agency. But we know the R's agreed to it (so, I don't believe it was mandatory) and that it was at the Child Advocacy Center in Niwot (not a government facility or program), through arrangements made by BPD. Did she fabricate that statement, I wonder?

 

[singularity]

Obviously I'm not an expert on CO law but I don't think she lied about an interview with Burke being mandatory. Her was the surviving child in a house where murder took place. No one knew anything at that point. They HAD to talk to him..if anything just to find out if he himself even felt safe in that house.

Imagine if they hadn't interviewed him and he wound up dead later that week. Having said that, the question asked of him mentioned earlier in the thread about animals leaves much to be desired. Someone not harming an animal means almost nothing. Yes....hooray that he doesn't harm animals but someones love of animals is not the be all, end all of their psychological makeup.

I love animals too. Sometimes I like them more than people. I probably shouldn't tell this story as some may think it was wrong but one time in Ceres I had dropped an aunt off at her house and on the next street over a couple kids were kicking this small cat. I got out out of my car, grabbed the cat, and threw him in my car and took off. I turned him into one of my house cats(I had two other cars at the time).

Now PETA would probably canonize me as a saint but I can assure you, I aint no saint. I just like animals.

 

[singularity]

^ I understand these approaches but I try to read/watch everything I can, even if I disagree with it. It's always good to explore both sides of an argument and it strengthens your argument even more when you know and disprove the other side's points.

I agree. In most of the subjects that interest me(Reagan, Kennedy, rise and fall of Hitler, WWII in general, etc.) I like to read all the various POV. That's how you get something that most closely resembles what really happened.

 

[zencompass]

^ I understand these approaches but I try to read/watch everything I can, even if I disagree with it. It's always good to explore both sides of an argument and it strengthens your argument even more when you know and disprove the other side's points.

Hey Userid,

Agree. Although sometimes I can only read/watch something up to a certain point.

When a theory is seriously flawed when held up to the light of the evidence, I usually don't continue to the conclusion since the words may change but the message doesn't.

I am fascinated by different points of view because ever since I can remember, I have always had an insatiable curiosity as to what makes that person tick! Plus you can't knock perspective!

 

[Ambitioned]

BBM

I owe you an apology for derailing this topic by comparing PW to my grandmother the other day. LOL. Let me try to focus. The point here is - where did she find that quote? (which she failed to end quote, but never mind that).

So, I googled it. Nothing. Zero, nada, zilch. I have to question if this is even legit. She says this was mandatory, from Colorado Human Services, the child protection agency. But we know the R's agreed to it (so, I don't believe it was mandatory) and that it was at the Child Advocacy Center in Niwot (not a government facility or program), through arrangements made by BPD. Did she fabricate that statement, I wonder?

No apologies!!

I couldn't find the quote anywhere either. And the fruit cocktail is bogus, IMO. And the souvenir statement? Please. She'd make Lyin' Lou proud. Can I call her Perfidious Paula?

Nice to know the Ramsey lapdog is still actively helping cover up for the killer. :rant: