GUILTY NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - # 9

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2Hope4 said:
Who is in the man in the suit? You can see his reflection on the right above where the camera is in that video. Can't figure out who he is!
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WHITEY BULGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








OK no clue on the guy, but could NOT resist LOL I'm sorry! I'm laughing, but it was my automatic response :floorlaugh:
 
Zenya confirmed that Abby has never ran away before, Zenya expected her daughter to come home that day. She noted that Abby didn't walk home often. She only walked home a few times before.
"When I got home she was not there," said Zenya adding she then checked the school. "She was not there and I started panicking."
Zenya found a police officer at the school at around 5 p.m. They looked around and the officer recommend she file a report if Abby couldn't be found.
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http://www.conwaydailysun.com/index...zenya-hernandez-speaks-about-missing-daughter
 
Mom24 said:
Even Drew Bledsoe can have an off pass. And the Babe didn't always hit home runs. People question how well something is going when there's a history of a failure. She may be a great prosecutor, but we have to get the children home alive, that has to be the top priority. Not saying she doesn't have an impressive history of prosecution, but how's that history of finding missing people alive? That's what's got everyone worried. We're worried that the priority right now is preserving evidence for a conviction rather than making sure that we get a missing person home safe. Not saying that JY's priority, but when you ask for public help and then refuse to release any evidence to enlist that help to protect evidence, it makes that warm cozy feeling you get from a solid case a little cool.
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Please don't get me wrong. I'm not backing off from my opinion that there is no "history of failure" here. Jane Young and her team have been pivotal in the successful investigations of numerous cases. Cases that, after investigation, led to convictions.

Once again, guys, not every case can be solved quickly or at all, despite passionate, dedicated and intelligent investigations. Not solving a case immediately is not "failure". Bungling a case is.

There is no evidence that anyone has bungled this case.
We are not entitled to information.
Often, information is withheld by LE to protect the investigation.

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honeybun1807 said:
I tend to disagree. Wasn't it written or said just the other day Abby was a runaway? I will look around and see if I can find where I saw that. Hold the phone!

BTW if she was abducted I don't think she would be sending letters to mom via the Post Office. Who ever heard of that?
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In Friday's pc it was one of the first things that Kieran Ramsey said. Potential abduction. He also said nothing has been taken off the table
 
Zenya described law enforcement as "thorough" and "dedicated." She said law enforcement doesn't disclose much information on the case because of the sensitive nature of the investigation.
"That's how they work," said Zenya of police.
The Union Leader criticized law enforcement for "keeping the public in the dark" and running what they say is a "sloppy" investigation. Zenya responded in a letter to the editor which she also shared with The Conway Daily Sun.
"People in N.H. and all over the country have been amazing and I can't thank everyone enough for their support. Press and media are giving us us tremendous coverage," wrote Zenya. "Law enforcement has to do a difficult and often thankless job, and they shouldn't be bashed for being thorough and discreet. Please let them do their job."
When asked if there's anything the community can do to help, Zenya replied people should remain vigilant and positive. She said people should avoid making negative comments about her ex-husband, police and others.
http://www.conwaydailysun.com/index...zenya-hernandez-speaks-about-missing-daughter
 
honeybun1807 said:
I tend to disagree. Wasn't it written or said just the other day Abby was a runaway? I will look around and see if I can find where I saw that. Hold the phone!

BTW if she was abducted I don't think she would be sending letters to mom via the Post Office. Who ever heard of that?
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She certainly could have to comply with someone that has her. And if that means someone telling her you better write to your mom so everyone thinks you ran away if she is scared which I'm sure she is.... she is gonna write to her mom and hope this jerk doesn't hurt her.... it really isn't out of the realm of possibility.... if you want to disagree go ahead
 
takeitfromme412 said:
She certainly could have to comply with someone that has her. And if that means someone telling her you better write to your mom so everyone thinks you ran away if she is scared which I'm sure she is.... she is gonna write to her mom and hope this jerk doesn't hurt her.... it really isn't out of the realm of possibility.... if you want to disagree go ahead
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I agree.

Even if for some wild and crazy reason she did plan to runaway with nothing with her at all, it is no longer the case. I think Abby made one mistake which was getting into a car of somebody she thought was safe and wasn't. I call that abduction. Abby needs help, she needs to be found.

Although Abby is older, to me it is no different than a young child going up to a car to pet a cute puppy or have some candy.
 
The Cheese said:
Excellent long interview with Abby's mom Zenya

Zanya Hernandez: Abby will come home
http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/24197154/zanya-hernandez-abby-will-come-home
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I think this is Zenya's best interview so far, you can see she isn't comfortable in the spotlight, but she is putting herself out there.

Since they announced the letter, I've noticed a change in that suddenly Zenya is everywhere, on NG, on GMA, on the news....I think this was all planned this way. Announce the letter, spark up interest again, get Abby's face and story out there. I think that previously, LE was advising Zenya to keep a low profile with media, and some have criticized her for that.

She knows what she may say and what she may not say.
And we have a bit more knowledge, where the letter was, and a timeline of when Zenya discovered her missing and what she did. She went out and looked for her daughter first before calling the police.

I hope the right person who can help bring Abby home sees this interview or another.
Go Zenya!
 
I think about being in her position. My child missing for two months being the most horrific part, obviously. Then, throw me in front of cameras while having to speak and answer on cue. THEN!!! The topping, add in having to know what is ok to say and what is not and how to respond at any given moment.

I give her mounds and mounds of credit, I equate it to being thrown into international negotiations over nuclear warfare and you only get one chance to do it right. She does it right every single time.


The speaking and answering questions, without all the rest, would have my tongue tied, shaking and ready to bolt if not bolting except for that I'd likely be frozen solid like a block of ice.
 
gitana1 said:
Please don't get me wrong. I'm not backing off from my opinion that there is no "history of failure" here. Jane Young and her team have been pivotal in the successful investigations of numerous cases. Cases that, after investigation, led to convictions.

Once again, guys, not every case can be solved quickly or at all, despite passionate, dedicated and intelligent investigations. Not solving a case immediately is not "failure". Bungling a case is.

There is no evidence that anyone has bungled this case.
We are not entitled to information.
Often, information is withheld by LE to protect the investigation.

:twocents:
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And that's where you and I differ on a couple of points. Failure isn't about cases, it's about missing people. The goal isn't winning a case when a person is missing, it's about getting that person home safely. Lizzi isn't home. Maura isn't home. They couldn't even be found. And Celina isn't home, there's some closure because they found her body, but she's not home. And in Lizzi's case I've yet to see justice served. KM spent a few months in detention and is out, I'm not sure that was justice and SM has yet to be tried. Celina's case is still open. I'm not saying it's all on JY because it isn't, but we need to start focusing on getting children home because I'll tell you closure isn't enough. And if what you're saying is that we are failing at bringing home missing people in spite of all the best efforts, there again we agree and things need to change because what we're doing isn't working. The definition of success isn't about putting a perp behind bars, it's about getting the missing found and brought home. Ask anyone who's lost a love one which they'd prefer, a perp behind bars or their loved one home. And if our justice system is so flawed that we have to put people's lives secondary to preserving evidence, then we've got even larger problems as a society.
I do believe JY wants these children home, I don't think she's heartless but I do think the general way these cases are being handled aren't bringing the success they should. I see that she cares and I think she's a very intelligent attorney, but I'd feel a lot more warm and fuzzy about how she coordinates her missing persons' cases if we had more missing people found. I really do believe she will find AH and I do believe in my soul this will have a happy ending, but I'd like to see more happy endings and the kind of success that involves children returned safely to their families.
 
Rivernh said:
I think this is Zenya's best interview so far, you can see she isn't comfortable in the spotlight, but she is putting herself out there.

Since they announced the letter, I've noticed a change in that suddenly Zenya is everywhere, on NG, on GMA, on the news....I think this was all planned this way. Announce the letter, spark up interest again, get Abby's face and story out there. I think that previously, LE was advising Zenya to keep a low profile with media, and some have criticized her for that.

She knows what she may say and what she may not say.
And we have a bit more knowledge, where the letter was, and a timeline of when Zenya discovered her missing and what she did. She went out and looked for her daughter first before calling the police.

I hope the right person who can help bring Abby home sees this interview or another.
Go Zenya!
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Could be she's getting media coaching. The story has been so prominent on national news (for a missing person--exceptional attention)--makes me think she's getting some advice from a professional (PR). The news article said she can spend the money that's raised for her any way she wants. If I were her, I'd spend it the same way: Good national as well as regional media attention.
Pretty girl--missing child at the holidays--good media.
 
RH posted a letter to a reporter on his FB about AH.
 
takeitfromme412 said:
I would say Zenya's interview with the Conway Daily Sun explains a lot about the initial LE response.... I DO NOT believe this child ran away and I DO NOT believe that law enforcement believes she ran away either.....
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Absolutely agree. Heartbreaking :please:
 
There was some facts released in the interviews that made the whole thing make a lot more sense. So now we know AH never made it home and why the rapid response. She's never run away before, I'm convinced that is true. So sometime before around 5pm AH went missing, that's important new information because I thought AH may have gone missing as late as 7pm. It does now appear that AH was abducted in my mind because of the timing of her last text and the phone going dead. That's most likely, imo, when she was abducted.
 
Yes and the fact that Abby didn't "pack" anything for a runaway. Nothing. The evidence always has pointed for me anyhoo toward an abduction or a lure that resulted in such. The letter greatly disturbs me and has. There have been a few crimes of late where some disturbing things have happened that just don't make sense in the moment. Perps who leave backpacks on sidewalks things of that nature. Not to imply Abby is a Victim to one of these strange new "breeds" but I can let go of it. I find the letter upsetting more than a comfort in some ways.
 
I'm sure this has been asked/answered but I find it suspicious the letter was sent to a PO Box. Zenya said she gets cards from well wishers, etc. If Abby really wrote the letter why not send it to the house? Sending to a PO Box just seems odd to me. Was the PO Box set up since she went missing for people to write? TIA
 
I never questioned that time frame. As a mom with teenage daughters I knew what I would do. I'd give it a little time. They rarely remember to turn the ringer on afterschool hours, even with a reminder in the morning. I'd call them and text them. If I didn't receive an answer I'd call and/or text friends. If they didn't know I'd begin the worry a little bit. Then I'd try the child again, a few times... no response then my panic would begin. It has happened more than I'd like to admit here. The thing is, usually just when I'm really about to panic they text back from their phone or a friend's if their battery wasn't charged. Ive headed out in my car more than a few times ready to drag them home for not answering when suddenly I hear. They are good kids, they simply don't think about what it means on the other end. I have a friend that gives them 10 minutes, if they don't return the call they lose the phone for a week. Highly considering starting that rule here so I have more of an idea about when to panic.

I am so disgusted by comments on the news page I've unliked it and am forcing myself not to look. At the same time, I realize know with all this positive and national attention come the ignorant who love to make the comments. I hope Zenya remembers that. 10, 20, 50 out of the viewing area of Boston is about .00001% :)
 
Sassygerl said:
I'm sure this has been asked/answered but I find it suspicious the letter was sent to a PO Box. Zenya said she gets cards from well wishers, etc. If Abby really wrote the letter why not send it to the house? Sending to a PO Box just seems odd to me. Was the PO Box set up since she went missing for people to write? TIA
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She said she gets them in that same po box. I doubt she's excited to run to a po box in the next town over to get cards from strangers. PO boxes are not an oddity, certainly not in rural areas. Certainly not when you think about the fact that she lived in a town close by previously. She lives in a condo, PO boxes are the norm for condo's. Don't forget either, this is a tourist town, many only live there part of the year. PO boxes in these and rural areas are the norm for many residential addresses.
 
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