GUILTY NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - # 9

[LookingHoping]

Well, I doubt she ran away... this has never been treated as a runaway case. Law enforcement has treated this as a potential abduction since day one. Nothing has been taken off the table as of yet but it is the general belief of law enforcement that she is not of her own free will to do what she wants or return home and it is feared by law enforcement that she is being held against her will.....

That's been said in nearly every interview in msm with law enforcement officials

I'm with you 100% on that. I've said it a million times, but I've always felt Abby got into a car with somebody she knew or knew of enough, somebody she thought was safe.

 

[MamaJoJo]

I think most people won't care one way or the other. There are are a handful of people here on WS who will have an opinion and many more in Conway. But, the reality is, if she is a runaway, and she comes home, the people involved will be happy she is safe. I doubt there will be any picketing or hoopla about squandering government funds. IMO.

 

[MamaJoJo]

Well, I doubt she ran away... this has never been treated as a runaway case. Law enforcement has treated this as a potential abduction since day one. Nothing has been taken off the table as of yet but it is the general belief of law enforcement that she is not of her own free will to do what she wants or return home and it is feared by law enforcement that she is being held against her will.....

That's been said in nearly every interview in msm with law enforcement officials

Thank you, Take. Always keeping us on track

 

[eileenhawkeye]

BBM if I ever saw anyone say that law enforcement shouldn't spend our tax dollars to look for 14 year old runaways, I would be VERY p-ed off.

LE doesn't spend much money at all to look for runaways which is why it's not an issue, but I do not think most Americans would be in favor of it. There are thousands of runaways, governments do not have an endless pit of money to allocate for every one of them. People ask all the time why one abducted person is getting more resources than another abducted person...I can't imagine what it would be like if the person getting all the resources was a runway. We just have to look at how much is spent on runaways in time, attention, and money to see how much concern there is for them.

 

[LookingHoping]

I'd rather the gov spend their money on our children than many of the other things they spend it on

Now how to find Abby? I have a question.... Have there been perps brought to justice and missing kids found directly from discussions/members here?

 

[geevee]

I'd rather the gov spend their money on our children than many of the other things they spend it on

Now how to find Abby? I have a question.... Have there been perps brought to justice and missing kids found directly from discussions/members here?

BBM

Couldn't agree with you more.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Abigail Hernandez

Endangered Missing from North Conway, New Hampshire since October 9, 2013

Age: 14 -- Height: 5'4" -- Weight: 118 lbs -- Hair Color: Brown -- Eye Color: Brown


Abigail was last seen leaving her school on October 9, 2013 at approximately 3:00 p.m. The FBI conducted a search of the area but found no sign of her, other than a police dog tracked her scent home. However, as she walked that same path almost every day, she may not have made it home the day she disappeared. Abigail's cell phone was last used the day she disappeared, a few miles from her home near a ski resort.

Nearly a month after she disappeared, Abigail's mother received a mailed letter supposedly from Abigail. It was dated October 22 and postmarked October 23. Authorities believe the letter is likely authentic, though they did not release the contents. She is still considered missing and endangered.


NCMEC

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Discuss Abigal's case here:

NH NH - Abigail Hernandez, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - #9 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[lillygator]

I'm not gonna lie, I will be p.o'ed if it turns out she has run away all this time. Girls running away and making law enforcement (and the FBI!) spend precious man hours and money looking for them whilst they're out doing whatever they want when LE time could be used on the countless other genuine cases that get no attention annoys me so much! JMO

I agree 100%...just like in the Bryce case. I would be livid if this is the case. We've seen it happen before though.

Yes, I would be happy she is found but I would absolutley expect consequences and repayment to LE.

 

[cluciano63]

Abigail is too young to face consequences from LE, if she did indeed run away. She cannot legally be with any adults other than her parents and/or legal guardians. LE has a responsibility in finding out if she is with an adults or adults, as that would be criminal. LE does not generally get involved to this extent for kids who take off on their own (if she did) but only because of lack of resources, IMO.

The only way I can imagine a scenario where no crime is involved is if she is hanging with a group of "street kids" her own age and does not want to return. Does not seem likely, but not impossible, I guess.

 

[lillygator]

why is she too young to face consequences? she ABSOLUTELY knows right from wrong. I have not read or heard she has any disabilities. I have 3 kids aged 2, 8, 11 and they all know right from wrong.

if a 15 year old kills or robs someone, will the same hold true?

 

[cluciano63]

why is she too young to face consequences? she ABSOLUTELY knows right from wrong. I have not read or heard she has any disabilities. I have 3 kids aged 2, 8, 11 and they all know right from wrong.

if a 15 year old kills or robs someone, will the same hold true?

No but running away is not a crime and in no way could she have anticipated FBI involvement, IMO. We seldom see a response like this for a teen without witnesses or proof of an abduction. Even most of us were stunned, so she could not have expected such a ruckus would be raised. She still may be unaware of all of the fuss...maybe she just wrote her mom because she wanted to tell her she was okay. JMO

 

[tlcya]

At this point we have no clue if she went willingly or unwillingly. Lets refocus on where IS Abby?

If she gets home safe and it turns out she was a runaway there will be plenty of time to debate resources spent, etc.

IMO the cart is before the horse right now for that discussion.

 

[The Cheese]

Abby is classified on the FBI Kidnappings & Missing Person page as a Missing Person. Not Runaway.

She is classified on NCMEC as Endangered Missing.

At the press conference, the AG was specifically asked about her classification, and she responded that Abby is a missing person.

No one in authority has ever said Abby is a runaway. So maybe waiting until she's found, and we know what happened, might be the way to go.

There have certainly been cases where children *have* been classified as Runaway, and when found, it turned out they had actually been abducted, raped, and murdered. That's why all resources must be put towards finding missing children. They are ALL worth it - each and every one of them.

JMO

 

[CatFancier]

I'm not gonna lie, I will be p.o'ed if it turns out she has run away all this time. Girls running away and making law enforcement (and the FBI!) spend precious man hours and money looking for them whilst they're out doing whatever they want when LE time could be used on the countless other genuine cases that get no attention annoys me so much! JMO

See, we invited ourselves into her life, along with the help of MSM. She didn't ask for anyone to search for her at all from what we've seen so far.

If I wake up tomorrow morning and hear that she was a runaway who has returned home, I'll be thrilled. I think we need to give her the benefit of the doubt and keep in mind the following:

1. She's barely 15. Kids (and adults) can make bad decisions.
2. Even if she ran away, she likely did not expect this type of response
3. Unfortunately some kids have reasons to leave home. Granted they should contact the authorities and work through the system...but again they are kids.

If I wake up tomorrow and find out somebody has done something evil with this girl, then I'll be p.-o'ed.

Exactly, her brain isn't fully developed yet and if she ran, she was thinking of herself, as ALL of us did at her age (and beyond).

I think your view is going to be shared by a lot of people if that turns out to be true. People are going to be angry that LE spent their tax dollars to look for a runaway, that the media gave more attention to a runaway than than they do people who did not leave on their own, that LE acted like she was in danger, that Abby allowed LE to spend all that money and her mother to worry for months, etc. I have no doubt that unless Abby is being held by some madman, she's going to be raked over the coals. People aren't going to be holding a parade. It will depend on how the media frames her return, and where she was for the past (X) days. Headlines that scream that a runway faked her abducted, and LE spent thousands...aren't going to get a warm response.

This would all be too sad. She's a kid and didn't ask for any attention. From every single picture we've seen of her, I don't think she tries to draw attention to herself.

why is she too young to face consequences? she ABSOLUTELY knows right from wrong. I have not read or heard she has any disabilities. I have 3 kids aged 2, 8, 11 and they all know right from wrong.

if a 15 year old kills or robs someone, will the same hold true?

Well, killing and robbing someone, those are crimes. Disappearing isn't a crime for an adult so why should Abby be held to different standards?

MP's are only charged if they claim they were kidnapped and it brought LE running and spending their money. And you know what? If she's alive, she'll get blamed like every other teen for being stupid or leading some guy on or whatever the case may be. We have had teen cases here that even posters turn on the child for their actions after the fact and it's very sad. We say we want them home so let's find joy in it if they come home, even if it was their choice to leave.

 

[MamaJoJo]

Come on home, Abby, if you can. We're all waiting for you.

 

[geevee]

I personally think that's what Abby may fear the most, if she left on her own accord for whatever reason she felt was important enough to leave that she isn't returning for fear of facing the anger we've seen some post on this thread. She's 15 for goodness sake, and things hurt deeply at that age, and as Cat mentioned above, she didn't invite us into her life, we chose to help find her in any way we could as concerned human beings, she doesn't deserve anger or harsh sentiments from those who cared enough to help, imo.

I hope with all my heart that she's not staying away from her Mom and sister because she's afraid of the backlash that some would throw at her, on the internet and in the community. When that subject comes up all you'll hear from me are crickets because I don't want that to impact her decision to return home where she's loved and belongs.

Just moo

 

[LookingHoping]

For Abby to actually be a runaway and somehow financing her own life right now...for Abby to walk through the door before Christmas or call her mom....that is my dream like many others' Im sure.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Before, I said that if Abby left on her own, and can come back whenever she wants, she would be coming home this week. I don't think she would skip Christmas. 3 days left...

I am also curious to know whether Zenya bought Christmas presents for Abby.

 

[imamaze]

Please don't discuss something that can not be backed up with a link from either law enforcement or main stream media. Rumor is not allowed. Unless you have something to show Abigail is a runaway it can not be discussed.

Please don't tell others how or what to post, if you feel a post is against TOS then alert on it.

Thank you

Ima