CCD
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yeah, sorry, I have a one track mind sometimes :S
this seems so incredibly solvable...almost frustratingly so
this seems so incredibly solvable...almost frustratingly so
I was just poking around NamUs and on Grace Reapp's page under DNA it said 'initial inquiry underway'...that's got to be a good sign - right?
You'd think someone would have noticed an entire missing family in Rural NH of all places. We're not talking NYC here for goodness sake.
Not necessarily. Assuming that the husband/father is the perp, he is not going to report them missing, and if there is no extended family (e.g., her parents are deceased and she had no siblings), nobody else will report them missing either.
The neighbors probably thought that they just moved away, or maybe they were not well-acquainted with their neighbors.
Keep in mind that the barrels were in the vicinity of a mobile-home park. If they were residents of the mobile home park, it would be understandable if the neighbors just assumed that they all moved out.
I wonder if they checked MA,ME and VT for matches? Also is that part on NH far north enough that they could have been Canadian? Just thinking in and out of any conceivable box.
This is so crazy..how does a woman and 3 children go missing and NOBODY misses them or reports them missing...I have been all over looking to see if there are any similar cases of missing persons and have not found anything..please correct me if I am wrong. It is bad enough when one person is found and can not be identified but 4?? How can a woman and 3 children disappear and noone is missing them, like they never existed. This is so sad!! I hope they can be identified and buried with their true identities and the person responsible punished!
Take a look at this Lady: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/guthrie_leslie.html
She and two children went missing Katonah, NY. Her daughter, Julie, was six years old at the time.
(Not sure what would have happened to her son, Timothy,who was three, the killer may have kept him, or could be, that he is in another drum, somewhere!!)
Hi, I was on the Doe Network yesterday and viewed the site updates section pertaining to the disappearences of Julie Anne Guthrie, age 6, and Timothy Patrick Guthrie, age 3, from Katonah, Westchester County, New York on February 6, 1977. They were last seen with their mother. However, it did not say if she were missing or not, or what were the circumstances surrounding their disappearances. It did not give her name either. I tried to find out that information, but could not find it upon an internet search.
I believe that their ages match up to these unidentified people. I believe that their pictures look strikingly similiar. I just don't know if their mother is missing, too. I know that the 4 to 8 year old is listed as being female, but is it not often hard to tell the definite sex of younger remains without DNA testing? I think that it is a rather an androgenous period of development during those particular childhood years. I am no forensic expert. The similarities in the pictures is what spooked me. I vaguely remember googling the case a few weeks ago, and believe that at one point, they initially believed that child to be a male. I wont attach the links, but you can look up their cases (those of Julie Anne Guthrie and Timothy Patrick Guthrie) on The Doe Network and The Charley Project, as well as on the national website for missing and exploited children in the United States. I think the older 5 to 10 year old child looks similar to Julie Anne Guthrie as well.
What do you guys think?
Did you ever submit these?
Someone mentioned earlier about the teeth and bone testing -- yes, that is being done right now, according to this: http://www.wmur.com/news/19013578/detail.html (somebody else posted the link earlier, but I'll repeat it because it's worth looking at again).
I wanted to pass on this link to their NH cold case site. http://doj.nh.gov/coldcaseunit/listing/allenstown.htm
Recreations of each are there. I also blogged the case. http://genkidjericho.blogspot.com/2011/04/unidentified-female-and-three-children.html
Excellent point about Jaycee! I had not thought in those terms. It's another avenueAlthough this seems highly solvable, since you'd think that logically someone would realize that almost an entire family is missing, I have to think that some of the time when people go unidentified this long, stranger circumstances than seem logical keep them from being identified. This case brings Jaycee Dugard to mind: If Jaycee had been murdered at some point along with she and Garrido's children, who would miss them? Legally, her children didn't exist - no birth certificates and no formal education. I know situations like that seem far-fetched, but clearly, strange things happen - we just don't know how often. Sometimes people aren't identified for so long because they were simply never reported as missing (think Shannon Aumock), but other times, I think it's because those far-fetched situations actually occur and there are no logical answers.
Of course, this won't help identify this poor mother and her children, but it's something to think about.