NH NH/CA - Robert Evans, suspected SK, Allenstown, 1981-2000's

[Cafegirl]

Bob Evans lived at 925 Hayward from 1977-1981 and Denise Daneault lived at 343 Hayward with her 2 small sons in 1980.

right but before Denise moved in in 1981,we know he liver there with an"Elizabeth"who he said was his,wife.in Oct 1980elizabeth signed for a,certified letter for Evans..i believe they know he lived at that address since 1977,I dont have that info in from of me.its a huge coincidence for sure!def worth looking into

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

Anyone else wonder where he could have murdered 4 victims without detection?
4 blunt force trauma deaths...The crime scene would have been obvious even with clean-up trace evidence would likely still be found. I personally think that they were killed outdoors, maybe while camping with Evans, possibly in Bear Brooks State Park. He would dump materials from his job at the mill there so he knew where to find some thing to conceal his crime. I don't think he hauled 4 bodies very far from another location, unless he had the drums already in his car to dump at the park. I highly doubt they were killed indoors though, especially since he lived in a multi-family housing unit.

 

[thesensitivechild]

Anyone else wonder where he could have murdered 4 victims without detection?
4 blunt force trauma deaths...The crime scene would have been obvious even with clean-up trace evidence would likely still be found. I personally think that they were killed outdoors, maybe while camping with Evans, possibly in Bear Brooks State Park. He would dump materials from his job at the mill there so he knew where to find some thing to conceal his crime. I don't think he hauled 4 bodies very far from another location, unless he had the drums already in his car to dump at the park. I highly doubt they were killed indoors though, especially since he lived in a multi-family housing unit.

I was curious about this too...

 

[folieadeuxnola]

1980 - New Hampshire, Manchester (Robert T “Bob” Evans)

• (January 9, 1980) – Certified letter signed for by (Elizabeth Evans)

• (February) - Arrested worthless checks (Dec 21,1979); listed spouse as (Elizabeth)

• (June) – Arrested Power Electrical Theft; listed spouse as (Elizabeth)

• (October) – Arrested Power Electrical theft; no spouse listed

Assume that the certified letter was in reference to the worthless check that was issued in December 1979.

There is one thing I have not yet seen on MSM is the actual address the certified letter was sent are we all assuming it was the Hayward street address as that is the only address we are aware?

BE had referenced having a 2 year old and a 6 month old in between the 1980 February and June arrest.
NH1 is the only place I have seen the reference however I will keep looking for more MSM on it.

See - Evans' References to Family
http://www.nh1.com/full-coverage/footprints-of-a-serial-killer/

See - Elizabeth Evans Slide # 9
http://www.doj.nh.gov/media-center/...ts/20170126-allenstown-suspect-identified.pdf

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Agreed, assuming that the murders occured in the summer - fall (Jun - Oct) time frame just due to the reference of Elizabeth in Feb & June 1980 then no longer after October.

 

[KatharineDutton]

I won't claim expert, but I've looked. At the very least this would be a feminine Danish name but I've looked under every name beginning with a "U" and an "O" and haven't found a likely person.


But who makes up a Danish background? That part might be true although I wonder if BE was an orphan or abandoned and adopted by a Danish family.

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Jensen is typically Dutch. So the first name may be wrong but the last name may be right.

 

[mattbel68]

Here's one more thought. So he gave the names "Denise" and "Donna" as his dead wife's name when he was in the RV park in CA. That would seem to indicate that when he lied, he stayed close to a few facts and used real names. Denise was the mother, and Donna was the daughter. This might indicate that the names he used for himself have some basis in reality. Also, the name "Lisa" would probably have a real person behind it. Since his known victims all have been women up to this point, maybe pay close attention to any "Lisas" that went missing. Lisa is a derivation of Elisabeth. Maybe Lisa was one of the little girls from Bear Brook, and her mother was Elizabeth? Total conjecture obviously.

 

[IllinoisMissing]

Jensen is typically Dutch. So the first name may be wrong but the last name may be right.

Did LE say Dutch? For some reason I thought I saw Danish or Swedish.

From Ancestry


Jensen Family History. Danish, Norwegian, and North German: patronymic from the personal name Jens, a reduced form of Johannes (see John). This is Denmark's most frequent surname.
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[IllinoisMissing]

Here's one more thought. So he gave the names "Denise" and "Donna" as his dead wife's name when he was in the RV park in CA. That would seem to indicate that when he lied, he stayed close to a few facts and used real names. Denise was the mother, and Donna was the daughter. This might indicate that the names he used for himself have some basis in reality. Also, the name "Lisa" would probably have a real person behind it. Since his known victims all have been women up to this point, maybe pay close attention to any "Lisas" that went missing. Lisa is a derivation of Elisabeth. Maybe Lisa was one of the little girls from Bear Brook, and her mother was Elizabeth? Total conjecture obviously.

Except that the daughter was Dawn. I agree there are truths mixed in, but picking them out is really hard!

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[folieadeuxnola]

Evans' References to Family

• Born as Ulos Jensen in Wyoming with a Norwegian/Danish background

• He was the youngest son in his family

• Ran away as a teenager

http://www.nh1.com/full-coverage/footprints-of-a-serial-killer/

......Did a google on Ulos this is also a last name


(Origin of Jensen) - http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=jensen
Jensen Family History. Danish, Norwegian, and North German: patronymic from the personal name Jens, a reduced form of Johannes (see John). This is Denmark's most frequent surname.

(Origin of Jenson) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenson_(name)
Jenson is an English language patronymic surname meaning "son of Jens". The prefix "Jens-" is a German and Danish surname. Jenson is rarely used as a given name. There are alternate spellings, including the Danish variant, Jensen.

 

[Suglo]

Anyone else wonder where he could have murdered 4 victims without detection?
4 blunt force trauma deaths...The crime scene would have been obvious even with clean-up trace evidence would likely still be found. I personally think that they were killed outdoors, maybe while camping with Evans, possibly in Bear Brooks State Park. He would dump materials from his job at the mill there so he knew where to find some thing to conceal his crime. I don't think he hauled 4 bodies very far from another location, unless he had the drums already in his car to dump at the park. I highly doubt they were killed indoors though, especially since he lived in a multi-family housing unit.

The mother and oldest child in the first barrel were partially dismembered. Wherever he did it, he must have felt completely isolated and safe to do so. What a sick sick individual.

Source - page 23 - http://www.doj.nh.gov/media-center/...ts/20170126-allenstown-suspect-identified.pdf

 

[IllinoisMissing]

I really wonder why, when the bodies were discovered in 1985, the property owner/employer didn't think that the sudden disappearance of BE was a little suspicious.

I could swear that in the Oakhill blog comments a while back a local mentioned a guy who had worked at the camp store.

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[Cafegirl]

I noticed that about the isotopes for the middle child as well.
She was purported to have been in the area from 2wks to 3mos, other than that, she was in a more northern, further inland climate/location. NCMEC stated that BE was most likely with the mother for 9mos and then he was with the middle child for 2 years. That's not possible based on the time of death and his being in NH for 5 years, not according to the isotopes, anyway.

is it possible that he killed his childs mother,then took the child and moved to NH,met someone with two children in the 3month window(isotype results)and then he killed them?

 

[KatharineDutton]

Did LE say Dutch? For some reason I thought I saw Danish or Swedish.

I meant Danish �� The guy I've been researching fits everything perfectlg except that a Facebook post suggests he's still alive so he can't be him.

This guys family thought he was living in Thailand. What a great way to disappear without your family reporting you missing...say you are moving oversees.

 

[HaikuMommy]

I won't claim expert, but I've looked. At the very least this would be a feminine Danish name but I've looked under every name beginning with a "U" and an "O" and haven't found a likely person.

But who makes up a Danish background? That part might be true although I wonder if BE was an orphan or abandoned and adopted by a Danish family.

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This was another reason I felt KatharineDutton was right about Allen Jensen (born 1944) from the North High School in Phoenix, AZ that RE once said he went to. He looks like he's have Norwegian/Danish background.

Jensen was a last name he used multiple times in aliases. Allen has the same tightened up chin and angry eyes in one photo as RE's mug shot from 2002 --but in the other photo of Allen Jensen he looks like a lighthearted everyday kid. RE was a chameleon and his 2002 mugshot looks nothing like some of his other mugshots. I think his face changed a lot with his moods, weight loss or gain, and how much he'd been drinking. Anyway, I realy hope they look into Allen Jensen, and find out. Even his eyebrows match, and one has a slight lift in it (left side).

 

[HaikuMommy]

So no go on Allen Jensen?

 

[Alleykins]

I really wonder why, when the bodies were discovered in 1985, the property owner/employer didn't think that the sudden disappearance of BE was a little suspicious.

I could swear that in the Oakhill blog comments a while back a local mentioned a guy who had worked at the camp store.
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RBBM for focus
I posted something similar to that in the first couple of pages of this thread.
The owner of the mill & land had to have had more than a working relationship with him if he had him doing a side job on the store. Maybe not drinking buddies, but something that made the owner feel comfortable having him do the work outside of the scope of the mill shut down. BE was the head electrician/supervisor, so he wasn't just a face in the crowd. I would think he would notice the sudden disappearance of one of his employees, even a handyman.
Even if he didn't associate the finding of the victims with BE, he must have suspected that they must be associated with someone he knew who had access to his mill and knew the layout of his land. He must have suspected the barrels could have even come from his mill, so I wonder just how much he told them in the beginning when they found the first victims.

 

[MissUnderstood]

Excellent observation not exactly a name to come up with off the cuff for sure..

All I note from that name is it is an anagram of soul!!! Very unusual name to choose as an alias, it's memorable if you meet someone with a name like that. Moo


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[Alleykins]

1980 - New Hampshire, Manchester (Robert T “Bob” Evans)

• (January 9, 1980) – Certified letter signed for by (Elizabeth Evans)

• (February) - Arrested worthless checks (Dec 21,1979); listed spouse as (Elizabeth)

• (June) – Arrested Power Electrical Theft; listed spouse as (Elizabeth)

• (October) – Arrested Power Electrical theft; no spouse listed

Assume that the certified letter was in reference to the worthless check that was issued in December 1979.

There is one thing I have not yet seen on MSM is the actual address the certified letter was sent are we all assuming it was the Hayward street address as that is the only address we are aware?

BE had referenced having a 2 year old and a 6 month old in between the 1980 February and June arrest.
NH1 is the only place I have seen the reference however I will keep looking for more MSM on it.

See - Evans' References to Family
http://www.nh1.com/full-coverage/footprints-of-a-serial-killer/

See - Elizabeth Evans Slide # 9
http://www.doj.nh.gov/media-center/...ts/20170126-allenstown-suspect-identified.pdf

Maybe the 2 yr old and 6 month old were the middle & youngest child. Maybe he thought the youngest was his, too?

I thought they confirmed that the certified letter was received at the Hayward St address in the press conference? I will have to go back when I have time and listen again.

 

[KatharineDutton]

So no go on Allen Jensen?

I found an Allen Jensen in Arizona that I've been looking into. He fits so perfectly. His mom was pregnant with him when she got with his stepdad (like him with Denise - maybe spared Lisa cause he was reminded of himself). Had many siblings all with a different last name. Was married in 1965 and had 4 children before that dissolved - 3 boys, 1 girl. Kids were blonde, his victims were all brunette. His family thought he moved to Thailand. BE used the name "Jerry/Gerald Edward" in 3 aliases. This Allen has a brother Jerry and a brother Edward. His mom lived in Utah, Arizona and Idaho at some point. On Facebook there are lots of friends with the last name Evans.

Everything sounds great! Except a Facebook post from his Facebook was made last year....so it seems he's still alive...

That being said this Allen I've been looking at may not be the same one in the yearbook