NH NH/CA - Robert Evans, suspected SK, Allenstown, 1981-2000's

[Kellyd]

Do you think I should send it to authorities? What really gets me is that I can't trace the Allen Jensen from the yearbook. Typically people have some paper trail.

Yes, you should definitely send it to authorities!

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[KatharineDutton]

Alright I sent it in. Hopefully it can help them in their search.

 

[Roselvr]

Unfortunately, I don't see a resemblance between the person in the photo and the person we are looking for. Evans is a common name though, and if they went to the same high school, perhaps they knew each other.

I wish we knew if there was any method to his madness regarding aliases. Could just be names he made up out of the blue. Could be family names, or names of people he grew up with, could be names of identification he was able to steal or have forged. Who knows? But since family names is the easier one of those options to try to nail down I've been looking into those more. Vanner and Mockerman are not very common. The only place I was able to find genealogical records referencing all of those surnames in the same county was in Berrien County Michigan, in their marriage index from the 1920s. Of course that doesn't mean that a place like NY or LA or even some other small county could not also have all those names, and just not have them in a format that turns up in a Google search. Still, I'm keeping it in the back of my mind, just in case. It seems like we have records of him being in or claiming to be in the Northwest, West, Southwest, South, Southeast, and Northeast, and Canada. Everywhere but the Midwest. Maybe that's not an accident.

Trying to read thru the thread. I thought that he pulled Mockerman out of the air; more so because he was mocking them.

 

[apearn]

Can anyone find out who the suspect was that was given immunity in this case? I've been looking at court records for McKenna's case but I can't find news articles that cover it.

http://pennsylvaniamissing.com/bostwickmarylou.html

The suspect in Marylou's disappearance and murder was given immunity for his testimony in the case against McKenna. He subsequently moved out of the area and was never charged in Marylou's death.

Sharon was found in Nov 1973 so the first trial likely would have been sometime in later 1974. That witness/suspect would have still been there then to testify.

That is a short time frame before BE goes to NH and it's a good reason to have an alias. It's also in the right area(s) for meeting the woman in the barrel and possibly the middle child's mom.

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

"They"? So you're saying "various people" told them about the names? How do you know these people didn't have first hand knowledge or experiences with this woman? Again, I find it VERY UNLIKELY he cared for this girl on his own for 5+ years. It was stated on this thread that the victim is said to vaguely remember a woman in her life from this time period. It would be out of the ordinary for Bob not to have a woman in his life, as there is a sizeable history indicating that he always did.

It's hard to say exactly when Denise was killed, since I believe she wouldn't be out of contact with her family for too long (she was last seen at a family gathering). I do agree that I don't think he was on his own with an infant. He emerged as Curtis Kimball in 1984 to 1985 and this is around the time I suspect he killed Denise, because he went onto another alias, Gordon Jenson, after that. A neighbor of "Jenson's" in 1986 said he told her he was widowed and "acted" upset about it, so I'm guessing it was more recent.

In his 1985 arrest authorities stated he was married to a woman named "Donna" who worked as a nurse in Orange County. This could very well be Denise, and also the vague memories Lisa had of a woman from her early childhood. The woman she remembers could also be Mrs. Decker, Evans neighbor, and who he left Lisa with when he abandoned her. He wanted Mrs. Decker's daughter and husband to adopt her.

 

[Cafegirl]

Does anyone know if authorities plan on researching the,area where the barrels were found?I think there's a good chance there is more to find��

 

[Alleykins]

Does anyone know if authorities plan on researching the,area where the barrels were found?I think there's a good chance there is more to find��

yes, I recall they said in the press conference they were going to go back and take another look.

 

[ALadInsane]

I found a missing person from Connecticut in NAMUS that can be Robert Evans.

Warren Niederfringer went missing in June 1972 and resembles Evans. Niederfringer was:

• 23 years old (matches the age range for Evans)
• had been in the army and had apparently been in Vietnam ( matches comments about Evans possibly being in the army)
• disappeared while driving a van from Connecticut Light and Power company. No info if he was an employee of the company but he may have worked there as an electrician ( Evans worked as electrician in multiple places).

could not find more info. Here´s a photo of Niederfringer:


https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/23570/13

 

[Alleykins]

I found this missing person in NamUs: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/498/57
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?58495-AZ-Bobby-Davidson-32-Phoenix-20-Nov-1965
John Robert Davidson, also went by Bobby
He was in the Navy
He went missing in 1965 and is a bit on the older side, but since we don't really know how old BE really was, I thought I'd mention him.
Circumstances mention tools were left behind, wonder what his trade was?

Bobby was last seen in the area of Central Ave. and E. Monroe St. in Phoenix, AZ. Bobby's vehicle, described as a Mercedes, was found locked and unoccupied at Kissel's Cocktail lounge at 25 E. Monroe St. in Phoenix, AZ. All of Bobby's tools were left in the trunk of the car.

 

[IllinoisMissing]

Trying to read thru the thread. I thought that he pulled Mockerman out of the air; more so because he was mocking them.

There is an actual Mockerman, living in Michigan.


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[Cafegirl]

http://charleyproject.org/cases/a/amon_matt.html
Here's his Charley page with a younger picture.

Age fits,and Idaho!I just have a,hard time believing he led a,life where someone reported him missing..a person just doesn't wake up heartless,it has to come from somewhere..i feel he probably led a terrible life,and sadly,any family members,are prob deceased by now...if he was using aliases before NH,I'm afraid to wonder why�� jmo

 

[IllinoisMissing]

In that photo that LE posted of BE and Denise, he is wearing a Disneyland shirt.

I guess it could have been picked up secondhand, but I'm thinking not since he ends up in California.

I think he was in California before coming to NH.

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[Cafegirl]

"They"? So you're saying "various people" told them about the names? How do you know these people didn't have first hand knowledge or experiences with this woman? Again, I find it VERY UNLIKELY he cared for this girl on his own for 5+ years. It was stated on this thread that the victim is said to vaguely remember a woman in her life from this time period. It would be out of the ordinary for Bob not to have a woman in his life, as there is a sizeable history indicating that he always did.

<modsnip>at this point,literally everything is,a possibility.im only going on facts.he told people diff stories,claiming his,wife is dead. He moved,around,alot,and we know for a,fact that witnesses state he would cry over a dead wife..sometimes her name was donna,various last names.theres no proof he had any wife with him,because he claimed she was dead .he never told anyone the truth,so I can't believe he would now.i agree,I can't see him with patience to care for a,baby...but traveling around,I'm sure he found people to help out,especially if they felt sorry for the child.theres so much I fo being thrown at the public,I can't even wrap my brain around it.<modsnip>

 

[Cafegirl]

"They"? So you're saying "various people" told them about the names? How do you know these people didn't have first hand knowledge or experiences with this woman? Again, I find it VERY UNLIKELY he cared for this girl on his own for 5+ years. It was stated on this thread that the victim is said to vaguely remember a woman in her life from this time period. It would be out of the ordinary for Bob not to have a woman in his life, as there is a sizeable history indicating that he always did.

No.what I'm saying is nobody seen a,wife with him.he told THEY-the various neighbors,etc,diff stories of his wife,how she died,where she died.this is proven.nobody SEEN a,wife with him.im not saying he never had a gf around to help with the baby,but there's NO WITNESS WHO SEEN HIM WITH A,WIFE DURING HIS TIME IN THE RV PARKS IN THE YEARS HE,WAS WITH LISA.

 

[MissUnderstood]

Maybe him being alone with a child was his perfect ruse to get in with another mother. There would be many women easily conned by a single dad, makes it easy for him to move in on the vulnerable. Moo


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[aThousandYearsWide]

In the late 1970's, Evans arrived here in New Hampshire. He resided at 925 Hayward St. in Manchester.

http://www.nh1.com/news/timeline-of...identification-of-nh-serial-killer-bob-evans/
This article states he lived at the house he went missing from with Denise in 1981 since the late 1970's. If this is true, that means "Elizabeth" and potentially the Bear Brooks victims could have been here at one time. Maybe a neighbor on Hayward St remembers another woman and family living with Evans before Denise.

He was known to have been in Manchester as early as 1977 because of his employment at the mill, and he is known to have resided on Hayward st until Nov/Dec 1981, that's 5 years at the same residence under the same alias, which seems unusual for Evans. Someone has to have remembered something in those 5 years.

One thing that doesn't add up is his daughter's isotopes being different then the others. If he was in Manchester from 1977 to 1981, and his daughter was 2-4 years old, that puts her birth year as 1975-1979 (If their murder was in 1980-1981). Did Evans have a mistress around this time that is the mother of the child? Or was she born before "Elizabeth"/the adult victim at Bear Brooks?

His daughter is believed to be from these places through isotope testing:

• North Dakota- mid-eastern
• South Dakota- western-mid
• Nebraska- western
• Maine- northern
• Vermont- north and eastern
• New Hampshire- northern
• New York- northern

I personally believe she is from northern NH.

Here are some unconfirmed locations of Evans during this time:

• Missouri - 1970s
• Louisiana - 1970s
• Virginia - Late 1970s
• Quebec, Canada - Late 1970s
• Texas - 1970s to 1980s

None of these places are consistent with his daughter and the other does either. A question I have is how he was able to keep his job at the mill if he traveled often. I personally think he settled in Manchester for a while.

 

[lmadler]

Maybe him being alone with a child was his perfect ruse to get in with another mother. There would be many women easily conned by a single dad, makes it easy for him to move in on the vulnerable. Moo


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My understanding is the little girl was more than that to him.

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[Cafegirl]

http://www.nh1.com/news/timeline-of...identification-of-nh-serial-killer-bob-evans/
This article states he lived at the house he went missing from with Denise in 1981 since the late 1970's. If this is true, that means "Elizabeth" and potentially the Bear Brooks victims could have been here at one time. Maybe a neighbor on Hayward St remembers another woman and family living with Evans before Denise.

He was known to have been in Manchester as early as 1977 because of his employment at the mill, and he is known to have resided on Hayward st until Nov/Dec 1981, that's 5 years at the same residence under the same alias, which seems unusual for Evans. Someone has to have remembered something in those 5 years.

One thing that doesn't add up is his daughter's isotopes being different then the others. If he was in Manchester from 1977 to 1981, and his daughter was 2-4 years old, that puts her birth year as 1975-1979 (If their murder was in 1980-1981). Did Evans have a mistress around this time that is the mother of the child? Or was she born before "Elizabeth"/the adult victim at Bear Brooks?

His daughter is believed to be from these places through isotope testing:

• North Dakota- mid-eastern
• South Dakota- western-mid
• Nebraska- western
• Maine- northern
• Vermont- north and eastern
• New Hampshire- northern
• New York- northern

I personally believe she is from northern NH.

Here are some unconfirmed locations of Evans during this time:

• Missouri - 1970s
• Louisiana - 1970s
• Virginia - Late 1970s
• Quebec, Canada - Late 1970s
• Texas - 1970s to 1980s

None of these places are consistent with his daughter and the other does either. A question I have is how he was able to keep his job at the mill if he traveled often. I personally think he settled in Manchester for a while.

that's a good idea.although its been decades,and the rents on Hayward st has had 5diff owners,I wonder if the original landlords were questioned for any info on who rented the place,Robert?Elizabeth?was anything left behind?I'm sure LE has covered all this

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Maybe him being alone with a child was his perfect ruse to get in with another mother. There would be many women easily conned by a single dad, makes it easy for him to move in on the vulnerable. Moo


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In one of the articles it did mention it is possible BE lured in women by use of having a child with him.

 

[MysticJynx]

The information in that legal post was provided solely by BE to the people he abandoned Lisa with. I don't believe for a minute that much, if any, of it was true.

If there was a Donna LaPorte, either it was a name he knew from the past, or he simply made it up.

JMO

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I believe he said her name was Denise LaPorte and mentions her dying twice. Both times in Texas. There is a La Porte Texas outside of Houston Texas. Maybe he is putting her name with the place he murdered her. Denise in La Porte Texas?