Found Deceased NH - Celina Cass, 11, Stewartstown, 25 July 2011 # 3 *Arrest*

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I have felt so blessed that my son was diagnosed with childhood-onset schizophrenia rather than adult. While he has suffered and has had psych stays as a kiddo, we have also had years of "programming" from mom on how you just can't go without your meds.

We watched a show on PBS a few months ago about a man who was 56 and had been a genius, IQ of 160 as a young adult. Decades of not medicating his illness and frequent, prolonged psychoses left him with an IQ of 68 at age 56. It was the saddest thing and was really a "scared straight" moment for my son who values his IQ. He was able to see that not taking his meds can actually damage his brain over time.

Thank you for sharing that. It is very important for schizophrenics to stay on their meds and get an early diagnosis. Researchers are uncovering similar findings with other mental health problems too (off topic, so I'll save for another time). Your son is very blessed to have your support and wisdom. May God be with you and your family.
 
I guess I was assuming they asked first thing about her father, and her mother would have known he was very ill in the hospital. I would think that LE would go and check that out immediately, in case she ran away to be with her father there. It seems like one of the first things to do and very simple. They could have called the hospital and asked if a little girl was seen trying to visit him. Takes 10 minutes and clears one big scenario off the table. But surely they could have contacted him before the news hit the airwaves. imoo

Even if they call the hospital and say "Call us if any young females try to come visit him..." That doesn't mean they said "Hey, his 11 year old daughter is missing, will you please let him know if he happens to wake up?"

They can confirm she isn't there and that he didn't take her... without ever telling him or his parents that she is gone.

Or maybe his parents knew and didn't tell him, so he found out on the news.

I just hope he got a personal notification about the body.
 
Okay I have to go mail some packages and will probably miss the press conference but I know all of you will leave me great documentation to catch up on when I return.
That's what's so great about WS and all of you.

So sad...be back later.

BBM

Here's MY package that needs mailing... and my grocery list.
And my family phone list, so you can call them & report not
to worry, that I am actually alive. Just not answering the phone
nor leaving the house at this time.

Thanx, tiredblondy.. you're a great WSer, too!
 
And we have no evidence that he is not on medication for his illness. I am just as suspicious of him as the next person here is, but I do think some comments have been jumping to conclusions solely based on prejudice against the mentally ill.

I think comment have been jumping to conclusions based on prejudice against stepfathers.

This case too closely resembled Brooke and Zahra... so that is understandable.

Hopefully that isn't the case... personally I would think the stepbrother, but then again I am prejudice against those. :innocent:
 
Well we can't be sure he wasn't taking his meds so that is also speculation being made by some, imo. He had no problems befriending promiscuous ladies on facebook. Just sayin.....
 
What time is the presser please? I'm going to try to be here for it.
 
cripes. I am positively disgusted by NG.

Yes, it is important to cover such stories .. but for the right reasons .. not ratings / cha-ching / paycheck.

Can anyone say what good has come from NG's program .. except entertainment value .. and possible antagonistic treatment of guests?

A woman saw a missing child on Nancy's show... then went to the store and saw that missing child... and called law enforcement, resulting in the rescue of the missing child... who's abductor is charged with the murder of her mother. Oh and they were several states away from where she was taken from.

I don't like Nancy either and it infuriates me that she is covering this now that they found the body. Cover someone still missing.
 
I know many people have tried and convicted the SF in their own minds, but can I remind everyone that this is a victim friendly forum, and until there is word, the family are still considered victims...

Thank you
 
And we have no evidence that he is not on medication for his illness. I am just as suspicious of him as the next person here is, but I do think some comments have been jumping to conclusions solely based on prejudice against the mentally ill.

Thank you. I posted almost the same thing.
 
You know when I first saw her picture, I thought of Julia Roberts. It saddens my heart so much to see a child so beautiful and have dental problems that were ignored. How beautiful a woman this girl was to be. So unfair. You were beautiful Celina. :(
 
I am pretty sure the family knows that is her. This town has less than a handful of people in it.
I agree that we all know it's most likely her, but just like with Caylee Anthony won't we have to wait for the ME to make a positive ID before they hold a press conference and announce it is her?
 
NECN reporting multiple on scene sources unofficially saying that it is Celina.

i think we all already knew this, but that is confirmation enough for me. im sure LE is just being ultra certain as they must be.

Rest in Peace Celina.

I keep thinking back to her posts about how much she loved her new kitten, and hanging out with her sister watching movies.
 
He could be sent to a state psychiatric hospital for years, like Andrea Yates was, or Deanna Laney. He obviously needs treatment. But you know... it might be possible that he had nothing to do with Celina's death. Just because he has mental problems doesn't mean he is automatically guilty of murder.

I'm not a mental health professional but I do have a son with schizophrenia. When a schizophrenic person is going through a good period, they may appear mostly normal. They can be charming and funny...although you may always get the feeling that something is not quite right with their behavior. They do not have the ability to pick up on socially acceptable cues....their sensors are a bit off.
When a schizophrenic person undergoes a psychotic episode, it is immediately noticeable. There are any number of odd behaviors....which could include slurred speech, weird tics, constant sitting and standing, jerking muscles, increased agitation, irrational arguments, etc. In other words, the person can become like a stranger.....and there have been times that I have been fearful of my own child, because I didn't recognize him. To me, his entire appearance would change during episodes.
I wouldn't be too hard on the mom either. We don't know her circumstances yet. And it might be quite easy to meet, fall in love, and marry a very sick person who was having a good number of months...or who was compliant with medications, seeing a specialist, etc....but who later began to display disturbing tendencies either through the deterioration of his condition or through stopping his medical treatment plan (which we know schizophrenics almost always do at some point).

Ughhhh. If that's the case, and we certainly don't know if he's responsible, I hope that anyone with a mental or psychotic condition guilty of a crime of any nature is kept in a facility for life. I'm tired of our nation's innocents being brutalized, murdered and discarded! It HAS TO STOP!

I am certainly NOT directly accusing SF..but find it very ironic that he would have a total meltdown just "Prior" to the announcement of "Breaking News"..Ya have to know they ( Mother and Stepfather) had been advised of this LEAD..and media were backed off in that area..then VOILA..Female Human Remains found!!...Bio dad had nadda to do with this..but SF's behaviors just appear on the surface rather suspicious.IMO

I am so appreciative the this little girl has been found and forensics will not be totally lost..so Hopefully whomever put this child into that waterway will soon be held accountable:praying:

Bottomline..SF really does appear :crazy:..
 
She was only 11 right? My younger daughter was slow to get all her permanent teeth she didn't get her braces until June of this year. She is almost 15. We had to wait. Perhaps that was the suggestion made for Celina? Who knows? JMHO

Anyone know what time the presser is? TIA

ETA: Nevermind! Thanks Dr.Know! :seeya: :)
 
THIS IS THE LAST WARNING!!!!!

LAY OFF THIS FAMILY! Mental illness does NOT automatically translate into violence. The mom has made no public appearances so speculating about her intelligence, mental capacity, etc. is totally off the wall.

Give it a rest until LE gives us something.

Any more violations and to's will be recommended.

Let's stick to the facts that we know and develop our theories around those.

Salem
 
It doesn't sound like the body has actually been recovered yet, still processing the location, according to the press release...but sadly it does appear that it would be CC
 
She was only 11 right? My younger daughter was slow to get all her permanent teeth she didn't get her braces until June of this year. She is almost 15. We had to wait. Perhaps that was the suggestion made for Celina? Who knows? JMHO

Anyone know what time the presser is? TIA

ETA: Nevermind! Thanks Dr.Know! :seeya: :)

I totally agree, and I've kept saying that throughout this thread. My sons teeth looked HORRIBLE, but we had to wait until the beginning of his 7th grade year to put braces on, because their teeth haven't come in sufficiently yet. So sad that people think she was neglected, she was just caught in a time lag for when braces could be used.
 
Someone has to give LE his information... they don't just have it... and since he was in a medically induced coma perhaps nobody felt it was necessary to inform him or his parents?

I guess I was assuming they asked about her father,immediately, and her mother would have said he was very ill in the hospital. I would think that LE would go and check that out, in case she ran away to be with her father . It seems like one of the first things to do and very simple. They could have called the hospital and asked if a little girl was seen trying to visit him. Takes 10 minutes and clears one big scenario off the table. But surely they could have contacted him before the news hit the airwaves. imoo

And I am not sure he was in a medically induced coma when she went missing. He was released the day after. So would he come out of the coma and go home the next day?
 
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