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I see Irondequiot JD isn't one of the ruleouts. Wonder if that's still pending, or if there just isn't enough information to make a comparison.
Would it have been an auto exclusion based upon both the MP and JD having DNA in the system ? I do not like how NAMUS labels the exclusion list now as comparison as that the label is miss leading to the end user. And also my big angst with NAMUS is the removal of identifiers DNA, Dental & Fingerprint ...
The last I heard, Irondiquoit JD didn't have DNA. The remains were too old and they didn't succeed in extracting usable DNA, so there was only a partial available. I think they were looking into whether new techniques could get a better result, but I haven't heard what if anything came of that.
TY Carbuff, So yes NAMUS would need to be able to to extract good DNA from the UID or do a comparison by other identifiers in which I think Denise did not have dental.
Can't win for loosing around here ......
Am I reading correctly that in November, they identified the woman of the four? And yet..... they have not released that info? Or did I miss something?
"Thirty-three years after the crime, breaks in the case are happening fast. On Nov. 13, 2018, Dr. Rae-Venter uploaded the adult victim’s DNA profile to GEDmatch. “I got the results at 6 a.m. the next morning and identified her by 8 through a second-cousin match. All because of atDNA from rootless hair."
Am I reading correctly that in November, they identified the woman of the four? And yet..... they have not released that info? Or did I miss something?
"Thirty-three years after the crime, breaks in the case are happening fast. On Nov. 13, 2018, Dr. Rae-Venter uploaded the adult victim’s DNA profile to GEDmatch. “I got the results at 6 a.m. the next morning and identified her by 8 through a second-cousin match. All because of atDNA from rootless hair."
That's what it says. I can't believe it hasn't been all over the news before now.
Credit goes to leilarose68 for finding this article and posting over in the Allenstown 4 thread: NH - NH - Allenstown, Adult Female & 3 Children, found Nov'85 & May'00 #2
I thought it should be posted here too. This article also makes it sound as if Denise's father thought Bob Evans was the father of her baby. Which is new info to me-- I always thought BE dated Denise after Dawn/Lisa was born. If he was dating her when she got pregnant he may have believed the baby to be his. MOO.
I recall they have dental records for IJD. According to this article:I see Irondequiot JD isn't one of the ruleouts. Wonder if that's still pending, or if there just isn't enough information to make a comparison.
Denise had a pronounced overbite with a gaps in her front incisors, so I'm thinking, based on a visual comparison, it's most likely not her."There was gold foil restoration on the teeth as well as her two front teeth were somewhat crossed a little bit," said Bean.
I recall they have dental records for IJD. According to this article:
Denise had a pronounced overbite with a gaps in her front incisors, so I'm thinking, based on a visual comparison, it's most likely not her.
It appears the same article has new recons from last year. Looks like they're doing Isotopes, too.
Inside the Evidence: Irondequoit Jane Doe
Yeah, I can see several grounds for ruling her out. I'm just surprised that they haven't listed the exclusion if they've been able to definitively decide.