It seems to me that the defence has not been able to present any one prepared to testify as to Chris Gregor's good character, no friends, no partners, no employees, no nothin. . is that usual? Baden and Dad being the only people called for the defence?
GUILTY NJ - Trial of Christopher Gregor Allegedly Beat 6-Year-OId Son to Death #2 *NG murder, Guilty endangering welfare, agg manslaughter*
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My takeaway from today, and I listened and reported in real time:
CG had a water bottle, filled to an unknown level, when he was arrested, and Dr. Baden knows about CT scans because he's not old school like old school doctors. Hyperspeed pneumonia. Or SUDI.
State sunk that Badenship.
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IMO on cross it became quite obvious to me that defense neglected to give DrB all of the supporting information to make an informed decision of COD. I dont think that will be lost on the jury if we picked it up at home. MOO
Baden said in effect that one can't Wake up from brain dead.Well well, that went all as I expected...........a total train wreck really.
Blame put onto the hospital staff.
Ignores the blood work, including negative blood cultures , says they are basically useless taken approx 1hr prior to death.
Dr Baden you are a disgrace to the medical community, time to hang up your hat Doc.
I had to laugh at the questions about Corey mumbling a few words & Dr Baden asking if that was before or after he was intubated
Geez Doc as if a patient is able to talk after being intubated!!
Of course CG was never going to get on the stand, just more theatrics from this appalling defense attorney.
As to Corey dying of SUDI ( Sudden Unexpected Death In Infancy) , this made me laugh, Corey was 6 years old DOC, not a baby, nor a toddler!
SUDI can be defined as the death of an infant from birth to 12 months of age that is sudden, unexpected and would not have been anticipated to occur 24 h previously in an infant with no known pre-existing medical cause for the death.
SUDI can be defined as the death of an infant from birth to 12 months of age that is sudden, unexpected and would not have been anticipated to occur 24 h previously in an infant with no known pre-existing medical cause for the death.
He was stumbling on common medical terminology. He seems to be having cognitive issues.
Surely, Mario and Ferrante are not labouring under the delusion that they have presented a winnable case? It was really a very poor defence, it had no main thrust, there has been no corresponding claims or evidence of Breanna causing injury to Corey, no explanation of the treadmill thing, except for Mario to tell the jury they'll be horrified.
He also told the jury they'd be mortified by it, but that was erroneous grammar, what he surely meant was , his client was mortified by the showing of it. Maybe, his client was not mortified, but he certainly should be.
Gregor watched Baden give his testimony and then chose himself not to testify. It just defies logic.
It looks like the defence was, Christopher did abuse Corey but he did not kill him. .. what happened to 'sepsis'??
He also told the jury they'd be mortified by it, but that was erroneous grammar, what he surely meant was , his client was mortified by the showing of it. Maybe, his client was not mortified, but he certainly should be.
Gregor watched Baden give his testimony and then chose himself not to testify. It just defies logic.
It looks like the defence was, Christopher did abuse Corey but he did not kill him. .. what happened to 'sepsis'??
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Thats interesting!!!!
I think if you had opened that up then you'd have opened up the whole reason why he left Wesleyan, what kind of student he was... I don't think "Urban Teachers" wants to stand by him and say he was a good guy.... his Real Estate license was only cuz he worked with his mom's real estate company... and now he can't have a Real Estate license at all since he can't be around kids (per Breanna interview.)
Defense rested. We won't hear from Christopher. Not a surprise, but wow. What theatrics!
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I wonder how he got IN to Wesleyan, with it's 14.4% acceptance rate, per google. I wonder if it's spelled
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My DH was a consulting medical expert. So I’m familiar with the process.
I lost a lot of respect for Dr B today, especially after he acknowledged viewing the video of Corey on the treadmill and his father. I would like to know if Corey had any broken ribs at all. If none, then how did the vital organ lacerations happen? I don’t believe it was from heavy handed CPR unless there were documented rib fracture in those two areas. DR B has a lot more experience and training than me for sure. But I respectfully disagree. MOO
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Maybe Dad finally took a look at the treadmill vid and said, game over, pull the plug. I don't know about Marci, last seen, apparently, boarding a cargo ship out of Guam for the Marquesas.
No Laura to testify to his charm and whatnot. Not even a sister, or a brother to testify to his brotherly attributes. This is a life sentence, I presume, it has malignancy, malevolence, premeditation, sheer cruelty, deception,, etc, it has it all .. yet.. two defence witnesses, neither of which had anything definitive to say.
Dad's evidence was badly constructed and unfortunately gave off an air of the performative, ' look at me, being grandfatherly'..There was something a bit creepy about it all. A sort of competitive grandfathering.
Baden, well. not anything remarkable or even sensible, actually.
This thing ran off the tracks back when Mama dithered on the proffer, then it crashed and burned when Chris, full of self-importance and rage rang Mama to rectify her testimony and it was recorded. As everyone knows calls from jail are.
It never regained any credibility after that, and even Mario could see it, his fury with his client was palpable, one had to feel for him , an unpleasant circumstance for any defence attorney.
No Laura to testify to his charm and whatnot. Not even a sister, or a brother to testify to his brotherly attributes. This is a life sentence, I presume, it has malignancy, malevolence, premeditation, sheer cruelty, deception,, etc, it has it all .. yet.. two defence witnesses, neither of which had anything definitive to say.
Dad's evidence was badly constructed and unfortunately gave off an air of the performative, ' look at me, being grandfatherly'..There was something a bit creepy about it all. A sort of competitive grandfathering.
Baden, well. not anything remarkable or even sensible, actually.
This thing ran off the tracks back when Mama dithered on the proffer, then it crashed and burned when Chris, full of self-importance and rage rang Mama to rectify her testimony and it was recorded. As everyone knows calls from jail are.
It never regained any credibility after that, and even Mario could see it, his fury with his client was palpable, one had to feel for him , an unpleasant circumstance for any defence attorney.
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And where is CG's mama?? Not one appearance in court.
Mario had to concede that Chris had blown any testimony of Mama out of the water, after his call to her attempting to 'fix' her testimony to something more to Chris's liking was recorded and sent to the prosecutor. Who, naturally, made very short work of laying out to the judge that she would C-EX Mama extensively on that matter, exactly what part did Chris want Mama to change, etc..
Mario had to let her go. A huge concession, from an unforeseen action. In tennis terms , you could say that Mario got aced by an unforced error . Aced by his own client. No point in reminding the jury by having Mama up the back, smiling at Chris.
I think that Mama was firmly persuaded to keep right out of the court house at all times. Sister Kim is allowed in, but she every now and then just purses her lips, .. . not a happy customer , but probably a big help to Dad.
One thing that stood out to me, Dad is dressed like an understated peacock, everything is carefully shaded and matched, tailored and crisp, coiffured, and polished, yet Mama on the stand ( when she had her proffer testimony not in front of the jury) had one of the worst haircuts I've seen, whether this is a cultural matter for real estate agents in NJ, I don't know, and very badly dressed , she wore a black garment badly fitting.. Maybe all the money in that house goes on Dad's presentation....
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Exactly.
When doing cardiac compressions on a 6yr old , you are doing 1/3 of the depth of the anteroposterior chest. How that would result in a laceration to the heart or liver beats me.
He also had a go at the hospital staff doing CPR for 49 ish minutes ( he says 18 mins is enough / normal ) ..........
I wonder when he was last involved in a active resuscitation of a healthy 6yr old boy?!!
Believe me you don't want to stop, especially when the child was alive in your ED department , you try everything, going thru all the reversible causes etc.
Corey had a Paediatric traumatic cardiac arrest (TCA) IMO
I'm re-watching Doc Baden & he sounds even more ridiculous the 2nd time round.
RIP Corey
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BBM. Their appearance perhaps gives us insight into their relationship/family dynamics. Dad is in control and mom is just getting by. CG is angry and out of control. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sr has been physically abusive to both. I know. That’s a wild speculation but CG’s demeanor and behavior is just out there and Sr just seemed like he was there to cover his own behind. JMO
You put it better than I could , I just could not nail it down , what I thought I saw.. Mama as the perpetual appeaser, Dad as the hammer, the kids as nails.
Yes, Mama was just getting by, she has her little job, nothing with the status of Dad's.. ...
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Needs to retire already. His time has come and gone.
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If Court resumes at 10, what's our prediction for closing arguments? Will they be relatively brief? Excessively long? Plus there's jury instructions. Any chance both closing arguments will be done before lunch? Might the jury begin deliberation early afternoon? Will the Judge allow them to continue beyond Court hours? I expect a quick verdict. Under four hours. Well under.
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Never trusted Dr B. Reminds me of fauci.
I think it’ll be long. Prosecution needs to set up a treadmill so that CG can show how easy it should have been. The jury needs to see him do exactly what he made his son do. One fall is all I need. After that cuff him and send his sorry assss to jail. He’s a pile of trash. A vile human being. The video of his son gives me nightmares. I want to reach into what’s happening and take him home with me. The cruelty and pain he inflicted. Your own child. I’m so angry I have no more words…