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[Nuisanceposter]

Michael Jackson seems to prefer boys who are right around twelve or thirteen years old. The two boys he paid off, JC and JF, were that age, as was the Barnes boy whom Mikey took on tour with him, and I believe the latest accuser in the molestation trial, GA, said what he alleges happened occurred when he was around 13 or 14 years old.

 

[rashomon]

I still kind of wonder, though... The Whites didn't serve pineapple at their party, but was there perhaps pineapple in the refrigerator or kitchen where Jon Benet might have snuck a bit with no-one knowing? Children will do things like that, especially in environments such as holiday parties where many of the normal social rules seem suspended for the evening.

The plate of leftover crab JB had eaten at the Whites' had already been digested as far as reaching the large intestine, and the pineapple had just passed her stomach. Coupling that with the fact that a bowl of fresh pineapple was found on the kitchen table in the Ramsey home, everything points to JB having eaten pineapple some time after coming home, and was killed about an hour after eating it.

 

[capps]

I still kind of wonder, though... The Whites didn't serve pineapple at their party, but was there perhaps pineapple in the refrigerator or kitchen where Jon Benet might have snuck a bit with no-one knowing? Children will do things like that, especially in environments such as holiday parties where many of the normal social rules seem suspended for the evening.

-Sepka the Space Weasel

Sepka,

I don't think so.

I don't have an answer as to when JB may have eaten the pineapple,but it seems it was in her system,and there was a bowl of pineapple on the table at the Ramsey's home. So,I would logically think,JB ate the pineapple at sometime in her home.

 

[Camper]

Revenge if not killing John would kill the next best thing...his son Burke...the one to carry on the family name. Foreign "factions" would also go for the male because most think females are useless.

There was absolutely nobody in that home but the Ramseys. Patsy is responsisble for the death of her daughter. She concocted an elaborate ransom letter because she is not capable of just writing one paragraph. She does things over the top.

The pineapple issue will never go away...the Whites DID NOT serve pineapple and JonBenet was served pineapple in her own home....PERIOD. What makes Patsy guiltly to me is her answer regarding the pineapple found in JonBenet's intestine. She asked...was it fresh or canned????

HUH?

--->>>Just jumping in here. If I recall it was indeed fresh pineapple. Question I will forever have is HOW much of the fresh pineapple was LEFT in the bowl. Was half of the pineapple still there, or 1/2 cup left er how much?

IF we had the answer to that, we might know then HOW much was eaten duh. Did Burke eat any, or was he asked about pineapple? PR duh didn't know what was in her own home in the way of food. PR did not know who had prepped the pineapply, YET her fingerprints were ON THE BOWL.

Now PR must have been thinking everyone was so dumb they could not figure out who KNEW about the pineapple?

That issue should have been pounded out with her, with a bare lightbulb, and a hard chair.

Why lie about the PINEAPPLE? Sounds like Mutiny on the Bounty, and the strawberries. Ball barrings in (Humphrey Bogart) the captains pocket.

IF IF JonBenet ate an ENORMOUS amount of the pineapple, would the digestion time remain at 2 hours for HUGE amounts of pineapple eaten at one time ? ? (this digestion time came from a nutrition store hard folding card with the digestion times for ALL foods on it. I no longer have the card, but posted on digestion time for pineapple years ago)

Now suppose that JonBenet got out the bowl when they arrived home that night, and nipped on it all evening til bed time, then the autopsy would only tell us the approximate time the last bit of pineapple was in fact eaten.

My thinking this morning is wondering whether eating a HUGE amount would slow the digestion and the autopsy only shows the last little bit being digested?

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EDited to add: Could the eating of a HUGE AMOUNT of the pineapple been the catalyst that sent PR over the edge?

JR - I carried JonBenet up to bed that night.
Burke - JonBenet walked up the stairs to bed that night.
HUH

PR must have known the laxative effect of pineapple, from past experience with JonBenet. It is also heavy liquid content.

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[sharpar]

Camper - I dont think the amount matters much in terms of time. If there is a large quantity then more digestive juices are released .

The point is its easily digestable food and would not have stayed in her stomach very long. Estimates are approx 2 hrs . The whites didnt serve it because they didnt have any in the house. NOT possible she ate it at the White's.

This is an excellent indication that the R's starting lying immediately to investigators. Does any mother not know what is on hand they might consume ? Particularily when they are encouraged to grab what they want .

Patsy is pretending to be unaware, but she didnt fool everyone .

 

[Paradox]

Patsy is pretending to be unaware,

Either that or an alter personality did the deed.

 

[sissi]

Mrs R wouldnt know an honest comment if it smacked up side the head.

She KNEW the pineapple was fresh.

She has done nothing but try and mislead, misdirect and confuse.

Can you post this as a "fact" on "separating fact from fiction"?
I just want to know if it would survive the scrutiny

 

[Camper]

IF PR could not say whether there was pineapple in her home, yet her fingerprints were on the bowl of pineapple, I would consider that a REAL fact, and a verifiable case of contagious Ramnesia.

JR, carried JonBenet up the stairs Dec 25 evening upon arriving home from FW party.

Burke, said JonBenet walked up the stairs Dec 25 upon arriving home from FW party.

Yep its contagious.

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[sissi]

IF PR could not say whether there was pineapple in her home, yet her fingerprints were on the bowl of pineapple, I would consider that a REAL fact, and a verifiable case of contagious Ramnesia.

JR, carried JonBenet up the stairs Dec 25 evening upon arriving home from FW party.

Burke, said JonBenet walked up the stairs Dec 25 upon arriving home from FW party.

Yep its contagious.

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It's okay by me, if it can withstand the "scrutiny" to be a fact.
However, in my house my fingerprints are on every bowl, plate and glass in the house. May I add , before they are put into use.
I have never read Burke's testimony? Given the errors concerning most everything from conflicting police reports, corrected ones, etc. I can put no faith in the reports of others.

 

[sharpar]

Can you post this as a "fact" on "separating fact from fiction"?
I just want to know if it would survive the scrutiny

:slap:

 

[Camper]

When you look at the BIG picture, the Ramseys are already in a prison they pretty much constructed themselves.

Just look at the parents of other other murdered children. Parents who had zero money. Look at Jessicas daddy, he had zero money, just a dad who LOVED his little girl. HE stepped up to the plate and is making changes to protect other small children from the fate that his own daughter met.

JonBenet knows who killed her. Certainly no comfort for her parents, because I do believe they have great knowledge of 'that' night. They could have stepped up to the plate to help others, for in the giving of oneself, comfort comes to those who give and CARE for others.

Certainly a father who can build a great corporate world, would have had the smarts to build a living memorial to his own tiny princess. About corporate world stuff, when things of an unpleasant nature occur in house, no publicity ever gets out about them, lips are sealed and the ranks are closed asap. Smacks of the same procedures used in this murder as well.

From their lacks of open caring for others, cooperation with other parents of murdered children to make some serious changes in our collective world for all of the tiny people, they created much of their own public relations debacle.
imop.

I will give you one PR fingerprint, but what mother does not know what is in her refrigerator, especially when a FAR AWAY trip is planned the next day? Moldy pineapple is not something I would want to greet when I returned from my Christmas holiday.

Now then about the fingerprint, IF PR's fingerprint/s on the bowl, had traces of pineapple included within its/their striations, it becomes a horse of a different color, huh?

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[sissi]

When you look at the BIG picture, the Ramseys are already in a prison they pretty much constructed themselves.

Just look at the parents of other other murdered children. Parents who had zero money. Look at Jessicas daddy, he had zero money, just a dad who LOVED his little girl. HE stepped up to the plate and is making changes to protect other small children from the fate that his own daughter met.

JonBenet knows who killed her. Certainly no comfort for her parents, because I do believe they have great knowledge of 'that' night. They could have stepped up to the plate to help others, for in the giving of oneself, comfort comes to those who give and CARE for others.

Certainly a father who can build a great corporate world, would have had the smarts to build a living memorial to his own tiny princess. About corporate world stuff, when things of an unpleasant nature occur in house, no publicity ever gets out about them, lips are sealed and the ranks are closed asap. Smacks of the same procedures used in this murder as well.

From their lacks of open caring for others, cooperation with other parents of murdered children to make some serious changes in our collective world for all of the tiny people, they created much of their own public relations debacle.
imop.

I will give you one PR fingerprint, but what mother does not know what is in her refrigerator, especially when a FAR AWAY trip is planned the next day? Moldy pineapple is not something I would want to greet when I returned from my Christmas holiday.

Now then about the fingerprint, IF PR's fingerprint/s on the bowl, had traces of pineapple included within its/their striations, it becomes a horse of a different color, huh?

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Sure would! If among the "striations" there was pineapple, that would lead us to believe she either has a bad memory or is lying. But that isn't the case!

 

[sharpar]

Even without the striations its simply not believeable for her to claim she didnt know there was a bowl of fresh pineapple in her kitchen.

 

[sissi]

Even without the striations its simply not believeable for her to claim she didnt know there was a bowl of fresh pineapple in her kitchen.

It depends on when the issue "came up". Was she asked within days or was she asked a year later. Patsy may not have been aware of the importance of pineapple . Certainly after the stress/trauma the answer to something like "what fruit was in your fridge" wasn't something one would hold in memory.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

Bullcrap. Patsy knew, even a year later. She's nothing but full of loss of memory and inconsistent stories. Here are some examples:

Putting JonBenet to bed - On Dec 26th, Patsy told police that JB went to bed wearing the red turtleneck that was found balled up on the bathroom sink, then later she said she had left JB in the white Gap top with the sequin star on it.

Checking JB's room - first she said she went and checked JonBenet's room and saw her gone before she went down to the kitchen to make coffee the morning of the 26th, then she changed that and said she went down and saw the note and then checked JonBenet's room.

Door to JonBenet's room - first her story was that the door was closed and she opened it, then by January 1st she told CNN that the door was partly open.

The notepad - when Patsy was shown a second-generation copy of the RN in the sunroom on the 26th, rather than commenting on the words and content, P remarked to one of her friends that the note was written on the same kind of paper she had in her kitchen. When interviewed by Steve Thomas later and asked about the RN being written on a notepad from her own home, she replied, "It was? I didn't know that." There's no way at that point in time that she did not know the RN had been written on a notepad from her own kitchen, just like she noticed on the 26th. Patsy also remarked to Thomas, "You know maybe it's a female that wrote the note, I don't know..." pg. 170. Rather odd comment.

In fact - that notepad comtained only seven fingerprints in all - five belongng to Patsy, one of the police sargeant who handled the pad, and one from the laboratory examiner. The ransom note itself had no prints on it, not even those of John Ramsey - who claims he picked up the note and laid it out on the floor to read it easier.

As for the pineapple - police experts studied the pineapple JonBenet had digested and "reported that it was fresh-cut pineapple, consistent down to the rind with what had been found in the bowl." ST, hb, pg. 192

IMO, Patsy is a flat-out liar who knows what happened to JonBenet and doesn't want to go to jail for it.

 

[Camper]

Bullcrap. Patsy knew, even a year later. She's nothing but full of loss of memory and inconsistent stories. Here are some examples:

Putting JonBenet to bed - On Dec 26th, Patsy told police that JB went to bed wearing the red turtleneck that was found balled up on the bathroom sink, then later she said she had left JB in the white Gap top with the sequin star on it.

Checking JB's room - first she said she went and checked JonBenet's room and saw her gone before she went down to the kitchen to make coffee the morning of the 26th, then she changed that and said she went down and saw the note and then checked JonBenet's room.

Door to JonBenet's room - first her story was that the door was closed and she opened it, then by January 1st she told CNN that the door was partly open.

The notepad - when Patsy was shown a second-generation copy of the RN in the sunroom on the 26th, rather than commenting on the words and content, P remarked to one of her friends that the note was written on the same kind of paper she had in her kitchen. When interviewed by Steve Thomas later and asked about the RN being written on a notepad from her own home, she replied, "It was? I didn't know that." There's no way at that point in time that she did not know the RN had been written on a notepad from her own kitchen, just like she noticed on the 26th. Patsy also remarked to Thomas, "You know maybe it's a female that wrote the note, I don't know..." pg. 170. Rather odd comment.

In fact - that notepad comtained only seven fingerprints in all - five belongng to Patsy, one of the police sargeant who handled the pad, and one from the laboratory examiner. The ransom note itself had no prints on it, not even those of John Ramsey - who claims he picked up the note and laid it out on the floor to read it easier.

As for the pineapple - police experts studied the pineapple JonBenet had digested and "reported that it was fresh-cut pineapple, consistent down to the rind with what had been found in the bowl." ST, hb, pg. 192

IMO, Patsy is a flat-out liar who knows what happened to JonBenet and doesn't want to go to jail for it.

-------->>>:clap::clap: My sorrow lies with an innocent tiny girl who deserved better in this life.

Not all people are natural born GREAT parents. I am wondering if lying was a lifes issue or just evolved in this particular crime?

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[sharpar]

-------->>>:clap::clap: My sorrow lies with an innocent tiny girl who deserved better in this life.

Not all people are natural born GREAT parents. I am wondering if lying was a lifes issue or just evolved in this particular crime?

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Its my feeling that its a life issue for the R's. I think they are shallow superficial people where preceptions are more important than the truth.

 

[sissi]

I think it's been confirmed police reports contained many errors, and thankfully many were later corrected. However, the corrections did not make it into the media , as they didn't fit the "feeding frenzy". Patsy has not lied, much of what is attributed to her ,as lies, are rumors and misinformation.

 

[sharpar]

Transcripts of interviews with differing accounts of what happened arent rumors, errors or mispreceptions. They are lies. Lies about circumstances
where a 6 year old met a violent death by someone else's hand in the home
the mother lived in.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

I think it's been confirmed police reports contained many errors, and thankfully many were later corrected. However, the corrections did not make it into the media , as they didn't fit the "feeding frenzy". Patsy has not lied, much of what is attributed to her ,as lies, are rumors and misinformation.

Yes, years later, after the Ramsey lawyers were in tight with the DA and Lou Smit, Linda Arndt came down with Ramnesia and told Thomas that she had no recollection of that time, and to just go with whatever she had written in her reports from then.

I highly doubt the interview with Steve Thomas with the inconsistencies he has pointed out are incorrect and that Patsy hasn't changed her story at all. I didn't even get into all of the inconsistencies John told.

It's as if everyone is wrong and Patsy isn't. No one else has any reason to lie, and she has all the motive in the world.