NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #3

[Pamela_Brewer]

"Paddock often wore brown cloth gardening gloves to prevent rashes from contact with cleaning chemical residues, the brother wrote."

"He was also allergic to many pills and was unable to renew his pilot’s license — he had flown planes since he was a teenager — because he could not take the pills needed to reduce his blood pressure."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...riend-but-may-have-kept-secrets-idUSKBN1C92PG


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[CARIIS]

The problem is in most gun related crime there is no mental illness involved.


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jmo

I think the distinction they are making is mental illness itself does not cause gun violence and/or attempts to use diagnosis solely as a predictor of future violence is probably a bad idea !


moo

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.ajp.2013.13010014

 

[Deleted member 158085]

This is JMO, but I get a feeling that MD and SP had an unusual relationship.

Does she speak and understand English clearly? Just wondering if a language barrier was the cause of misunderstandings?

Whatever SP's problem was, he could think clearly to buy her a car and send money to her. When you think about it, why buy the car if he was planning on committing this atrocity? The money he sent her will be spent on her lawyer. Her poor family thinking they were going to get a better house.

I can't wait for them to find out if he had a will and where his assets are going. Also, it will be interesting to discover how financially well off he was. Curiosity only.

I assume she is fluent in English because she's been in this country for decades.

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[joedotnet]

jmo

I think the distinction they are making is mental illness itself does not cause gun violence and/or attempts to use diagnosis solely as a predictor of future violence is probably a bad idea !


moo

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.ajp.2013.13010014

I completely agree. But when people talk about gun control they always bring up mental health checks. 1. How do you even know if someone has a mental illness? Most aren't diagnosed. 2. Even if you could refuse selling guns to someone with a mental illness, that only would keep a very small percentage of the crime from happening.


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[mymadori]

I assume she is fluent in English because she's been in this country for decades.

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I cannot imagine her not being fluent in English when she worked as a high limit hostess. The purpose of a casino host is to book your dinner or room reservations, make sure you have enough "comps" on your card to pay for your dinner or your spa visit, and just generally do whatever they can to make your stay more pleasant. This is not a role where a language barrier would be acceptable.

I have a casino host myself- but not a "high limit" host. He does all the same things, but we're talking $200 rooms and $100 dinner comps, not anywhere near the level this guy received.

 

[jULIA_bEE]

I dont know maybe this radio broadcast is from like another agency helping out ??

they are getting lost

worrying about armed cars

someone else pls listen to this -- I need a pro to explain this TY

ugh oh she is teaching someone about protocol during a mass shooting

still have not heard one siren in background

half of the communications are asking for repeats of info given 3 times

but the breach is on this????

TIA

I'm not exactly sure what you're listening to. I know whenever something serious is happening in my city, dispatch and officers switch to a tactical channel. It's not broadcasted publicly for a number of reasons. I would imagine the majority of chatter that night was on one of those channels which is why you're not hearing much.

I know when I listened to the scanner during all the chaos of that night, it sounded terrifying.

I'm not really sure what you're trying to imply...


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[Gooddeeds]

I agree. IMO he has skeletons in his closet and was being haunted by them.
He sounds like he has been a man on the run for much of his life. Always blending in...
MOO
This doesn't list all of his properties, but it is MSM.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...vestments-to-fund-gambling-guns-idUSKBN1CC00W

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-Snipped from the above reuters link-thank you.

“Not only did Paddock buy the complex, he ran it as the manager and lived onsite as a way of holding EXPENSES down, apparently KEEPING HIS OWN books on a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet RATHER THAN PAY an accountant.

His brother said the pair had been THRIFTY from the start, describing how they gutted and renovated a 20-unit building in Los Angeles largely themselves. Caring little about appearances, they BOUGHT CHEAP clothes from Walmart”

Just interesting...seeing the various monetary references.

 

[1&2&3]

If the money hasn’t been moved already, would LE be able to seize it?

What a good question. The answer is I have no idea.

I don't do online banking. Can you set it to transfer to a person's account at a specific time? But then the sheriff said he had a getaway plan so he may not have done anything with it.

 

[joedotnet]

What a good question. The answer is I have no idea.

I don't do online banking. Can you set it to transfer to a person's account at a specific time? But then the sheriff said he had a getaway plan so he may not have done anything with it.

Yes you can. And you can use apps as well to do this...but there would always be a record of the transaction


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[1&2&3]

I'm sorry, but that's silly. If he went to the casino and got mindless, it was long before he showed up there. You can't blame slot machines for this massacre.

I am not saying he went mindless on the day of his massacre. I am not blaming the slot machines.

This man was addicted to gambling on the machines! This may be what he called his job, but in reality, he had a severe addiction.

 

[bears10]

What a good question. The answer is I have no idea.

I don't do online banking. Can you set it to transfer to a person's account at a specific time? But then the sheriff said he had a getaway plan so he may not have done anything with it.

I used to do international wire transfers weekly at my previous job. I do believe you can schedule a wire to be sent for a future date. I always sent ours right away, and they’d see it in their account a few days later. However it was a sort of corrupt country so other countries may receive funds sooner. I don’t know the legalities on LE and international wires bc I was sending legit wires so that wasn’t an issue.

Personally I think he sent it before he went to Vegas. It prob took a few days to show in her Philippines account. I’m still curious how and why he had her overseas bank account. And why she had a Filipino bank account. I read she renounced her citizenship. I feel like her claims of being surprised about the $100k are not completely honest.

 

[bears10]

Yes you can. And you can use apps as well to do this...but there would always be a record of the transaction


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International wires are much more detailed than regular domestic wires. You have a key fob with numbers that change every 20 seconds or so. You have to enter the current code as you initial the wire. It would be daunting IMO to do it from your phone. Maybe it was just the banks I’ve used though.

 

[katydid23]

I assume she is fluent in English because she's been in this country for decades.

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All of her FB comments and discussions were in English, except for a very few in Tagalog.

 

[human]

I used to do international wire transfers weekly at my previous job. I do believe you can schedule a wire to be sent for a future date. I always sent ours right away, and they’d see it in their account a few days later. However it was a sort of corrupt country so other countries may receive funds sooner. I don’t know the legalities on LE and international wires bc I was sending legit wires so that wasn’t an issue.

Personally I think he sent it before he went to Vegas. It prob took a few days to show in her Philippines account. I’m still curious how and why he had her overseas bank account. And why she had a Filipino bank account. I read she renounced her citizenship. I feel like her claims of being surprised about the $100k are not completely honest.

What kind of things do you have to do when you are transferring more than $10,000? What are the rules?

 

[bears10]

What kind of things do you have to do when you are transferring more than $10,000? What are the rules?

I’m not sure if we had to do anything for our initial set up since my boss’s wife handled that. But I regular sent wires over $100,000 from my office computer. I’m also not sure if business accounts have different stipulations from consumer accounts.

ETA - the info I needed to send an international wire was - receivers bank account number, bank Swift code, the complete bank addres (which was a PITA bc every country seems to format addresses differently), phone number, and name on the account. All info had to be accurate. Swift code being the most important.

 

[bears10]

What kind of things do you have to do when you are transferring more than $10,000? What are the rules?

I realize my previous post didn’t really answer your question. Whether I was sending $1k or $100k internationally it was the same process. I can give you a general step by step if you’d like, but I don’t think that’s what you’re asking for so I’ll spare everyone the snooze fest 🙂

 

[John Dillinger]

Credible? Everything is from her “source”. I can have a source that tells me the sky is green.

I think she works the hardest of all journos to get to the truth. Working this hard I’d say she has several sources and this helps her story to become one of the most credible and well researched. Should definitely be allowed here.


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[human]

I realize my previous post didn’t really answer your question. Whether I was sending $1k or $100k internationally it was the same process. I can give you a general step by step if you’d like, but I don’t think that’s what you’re asking for so I’ll spare everyone the snooze fest ��

I am wondering about the part of being more than $10,000.A person can transfer any amount, but $10,000 is the amount that is flagged.

He was transferring $100,000.What did he have to provide authorities or the bank to be able to transfer more than $10,000?

If you have money in a foreign bank, you have to declare it nowadays. I think the law changed about two or three years ago.

 

[mpnola]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bu...egas-hotels-dont-have-metal-detectors-2017-10

Metal detectors and amped up security measures in hotel casinos are a hot topic right now. IMO things will prob transpire the same as after 9/11. Security will be tighter while things are still fresh, but then decrease once people feel safe again. We can’t let this one guy make us all live in fear. Where do you draw the line? Do we put metal detectors in supermarkets? Target? Doctors offices? If someone is truly set on causing mass damage, they will find a way. The Boston bombers used pressure cookers. Yes they didn’t kill as many as SP, but my point is, where there’s a will there’s a way.

I am from NJ and the aftermath of 9/11 was hard. People were really cautious, but at the same time did not want to live in fear and let the terrorists win. It makes me sad that we live in a world where it can be nerve wracking to travel on planes, go to nightclubs, marathons, concerts, hotels etc. We can’t let the killers win.

JMO obviously.

They did a segment on the Today show about how hotels can get window sensors or "even better" put a film so they cannot be broken to prevent things like this in the future. All I could think of was that the next report would be that there was a fire in a big hotel and many perished because they couldn't break the glass to escape or let in fresh air or something.

Bad guys don't keep doing the same thing. They find new things. Always. You fix the big things you can (airport screenings) and ypu count on the goodness of people the rest of the time (movie theaters, hotels, concerts, races!)

I want to point something out that I have been thinking about. At Websleuths, we surround ourselves with tragdy. Most of us are probably more aware and probably more compassionate than most. I mean, we come here looking to be witness and help hundreds of people we don't know. As such, we see a lot of scary stuff. But even in this horrible day, there was only 1 person out of the tens of thousands doing the wrong thing. Everyone else was helping. Doing the right thing. Being a good human to each other. I think that's important for us to remember. Here, we are always looking for that 1 bad apple. But really, there are millions of good apples out there. I don't ever want to get so bogged down with the 1 bad and forget to look around and realize I am in a sea of goodness (mostly lol).

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[human]

The question as to why she would have a foreign bank account. Some ATM’s limit what you can take out, The ATM’s where I live have a $300 limit. We would have to take rent out over a few days. Then there are the ATM costs to take out money,

It is better to have a bank account. As a US citizen, you have to declare your bank account to the US IRS,