NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #5

[m00c0w]

So, I just listened to maintenance guy's interview again... His accounts seem kind of inconsistent with other accounts... He's walking down from another wing. Sees someone's head pop out. Doesn't think much of it. Doesn't hear gunfire the entire time walking down. Keeps walking until he's 1/3 of the way down the hallway. Shots are being fired, but not in the hallway yet (not sure what this means, or who he would be shooting at). JC pops out from an alcove and tells maintenance guy to take cover... As soon as he takes cover, a volley of rounds comes down the hallway. If this was the first set of volleys into the hallway, why was JC taking cover and hidden in an alcove already? It also seems like he was shot already, even though he was behind cover.

Weirdness. I hope JC gives a timeline during his thing tonight on Hannity.

 

[EllieBee]

People seem to be stuck on the number 200. Did anybody sat there and counted the shots? Somehow I doubt it.

I read the news today oh boy
Four thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire

And though the holes were rather small
They had to count them all

Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall
I'd love to turn you on

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[kittythehare]

not be snarky I have never cared of what they wanted to do afterwards -- i have never understood wondering that

that would be like mind reading now that is a conspiracy theory!!

that is one thing that has no meaning imo

ok he planned on escaping ok fine

ok he did not plan on escaping ok fine

now what

mmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmm
maybe only that he had more than enough to shoot his way outa that gaf a single floor at a time..
there was a point when he made that choice..he also had sufficient equipment to kill everybody that was on that corridor..

 

[CARIIS]

True or maybe he was just not thinking rationally (clearly). I mean I don’t think it’d be totally surprising if he was drilling that door shut simply out of paranoia and excessivness

that parania would also parallel locking the door inside

the extent of the cameras plural imo also indicates irrational paranoia

he evidently believed that he would have to ascertain who is at the door by the peephole

sir who exaclty do you think is at your door while you are machine gunning at 22000 people

room service with some hot french toast !!

he already had two cameras on the cart would suffice

i have trouble with peephole as it is looking through a peephole on a camera would require stopping what your doing !!

If this was not about a whole bunch of other things 18 guns is a dash overkill

did he really believe ( obviously he did ) think he was gonna have enough time to shoot off 18 guns !

that is not reality oriented at all imo

if one was having financial issues packing 18 guns to sell makes some sense

the same thing with his car he is trying to get away he needs 18 guns or whatever number was in the car

that is not conspiracy that is a valid question

truly what is supposedly one dude gonna with a gunstore in his hotel room and vehicle ??

he only has two arms and legs

the want for dozens of machine guns with him is just bizaire unless there others involved think Paris ,

it would be interesting to know if there was more than one gun protection outfits for lack of a better term

 

[enelram]

From one of the interviews I saw it seemed like they lived together. But that would have no bearing on the next of kin. Mom would still be next of kin. She may be old enough that Eric has POA, but that’s a major guess on my end.

Mom lives 'down the road' from Eric and wife acording to Eric. He says mom gave him POA since she will be trustee
of trust formed to handle shooter's assets which he plans to use to help victims. We'll see.

 

[Gooddeeds]

I think we may have just located the reason why the Sheriff lied and lied and then had to lie a dash more .

He has got 26 minutes before just the call for SWAT was made
...............................................


10:25-32: A clearer idea of the shooter's location emerges, and a team gets to the gunman's floor.
"It's Room 135 on the 32nd floor. I need SWAT."


"We have a four-man element at the very end of the hall."

The only thing up there was reg cops there not trained in all this stuff


: 11:02


At the same time, the channel becomes flooded with reports of shots fired in no fewer than a half-dozen casinos across the Las Vegas Strip


11:19-20:
breach breach breach

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/04/555305057/listen-amid-chaos-in-las-vegas-police-dispatches-reveal-an-evolving-response


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/04/555305057/listen-amid-chaos-in-las-vegas-police-dispatches-reveal-an-evolving-response

LThe descriptor was down the hall -- the hallway as the cops were leading the cameraman is perfect 200 bullets have to land somewhere or hit something to stop.

how can everything be perfect -- its the same as the exterior has anyone seen anything damaged as it relates to thousands of bullets flying all over the place faster than the speed of sound

can one link at least a ripped tree or something

a bullet hole somewhere??

shot up beer bottle?

broken glass?

-Seriously, we haven’t seen any broken any thing in the hallway area, with the exception of that one prized photo that has all of us wondering. Understand-yes, they may not be releasing yet, but in my opinion what they have released is just too dumb for credibility purposes??

 

[canadiangirl]

People seem to be stuck on the number 200. Did anybody sat there and counted the shots? Somehow I doubt it.

Well there is a big difference between 200 and the approx 20? We can see. Although I didn't count but it doesn't look like Swiss cheese to me. JMO

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[Iona]

The timeline is more than confusing, I found this from USA Today on
you tube. Unfortunately, it sounds and looks like the first shots fired, view is from concert, Jason Alden is singing....

[video=youtube;OTQs9aIkUuk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTQs9aIkUuk&sns=em[/video]

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[CARIIS]

In regards to the two shots fired at the end, could he have fired a test shot b/f shooting himself? If some of his other guns were jamming, maybe he just wanted to be 100% that one was working?

Our sheriff in one presser indicated that he was wounded before final bang

that is the two

 

[Iona]

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[bears10]

Mom lives 'down the road' from Eric and wife acording to Eric. He says mom gave him POA since she will be trustee
of trust formed to handle shooter's assets which he plans to use to help victims. We'll see.

Thank you for the info. Let’s see what Eric decides to really do. Hopefully he does the right thing.

 

[canadiangirl]

From one of the interviews I saw it seemed like they lived together. But that would have no bearing on the next of kin. Mom would still be next of kin. She may be old enough that Eric has POA, but that’s a major guess on my end.

No you're right but if he lives with her I was just thinking how much easier it would be to have a 90 yr old mother "update" her will as you said.

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[CARIIS]

-Brilliant Kitty!!!

There’s a start and a stop to everything, and everything that is in between. There is no denying of it in this digital age we live in.
‘9:54pm’ check-check-check across the globe, no matter the time zone.

The notion that a 911 center in a big city cant determine when the recieved the first call of something going on at the property imo does not float

if we were back in the 70's and stuff like had be logged by humans credible

these days no

in Pulse we hours of calls into 911

that is consistent with human behavior

they release body cams (15 secs) and not one call to 911 -- reason they are timestamped

it fits with the initial lie

they had nothing to hide

Pulse released hours of 911 calls

imo it has been purposeful attempts to murk everything up -- and that is the only thing he has done well moo

 

[Gooddeeds]

“m00c0w's”

***Quote Originally Posted by jjenny***
“Could be he used a phone instead of a radio which is why it wasn't recorded”.


The revelation that hotel security had been alerted comes a day after Las Vegas police changed their timeline of how the Route 91 Harvest country music festival massacre started on Oct. 1 — not with an attack on a crowd along the Strip at 10:05 p.m., but with the shooting of Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos inside the hotel about six minutes before.

"He called it in before" the attack began, possibly using a hallway phone to contact hotel security, Clark County Assistant Sheriff Tom Roberts told The Times in an interview. "He manually called down and he used his radio to call. … That's what we were briefed this morning."

Roberts said he didn't know precisely what time Campos called in his own shooting before the assault on the concert began, or whether the hotel immediately passed the information to police.
http://beta.latimes.com/nation/la-na...010-story.html

Called via phone and radioed.

 

[bears10]

No you're right but if he lives with her I was just thinking how much easier it would be to have a 90 yr old mother "update" her will as you said.

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Right. I mean god bless, but at 90, there’s a high probability she doesn’t have her full mind. A previous poster let me know she gave POA to Eric. I guess I’m just curious about how mentally well she is, and if she has the capacity to give POA or sign anything. Sorry but the bro is shady to me. JMO

 

[Deleted member 158085]

You can see some of the bullet holes in an image in this article

what do you make of it?
Door panel is missing, the top half..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4944234/Two-23-rifles-inside-Stephen-Paddock-s-room.html
theres a good clear pic of the hammer he used as well, it was quite small.. for those massive windows.. if its not in this article its in the Business Insider article, hammer, I mean..
Does anybody have any idea what the blue tube thingy in this and also this article was about?
http://uk.businessinsider.com/manda...hat-was-supposed-to-occur-there-on-tuesday-14

Tube goes to the gas mask, I believe.

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[ohreally]

There's reports and video from people inside Bellagio and Paris. No where near Mandalay.. JMO

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According to google the closest parts of the MB and Bellagio properties is two long blocks. Paris hotel is across the street from the Bellagio. Considering I
There were 22,000 people at the concert and those along the way that were effected I would think that there was mass confusion and noises at those hotels.
I would think the gun shots from the MB would of been heard two long blocks away. IMO

 

[CARIIS]

In the interview above (around 4:00), Schuck says his supervisor gave him the master keys and told him to go turn off the elevators. Schuck turned them off.

but the cops came up the elevators ??

the sec guard was alledgy standing shot near the elevators

I would think a security guard would be able to ascertain if the elevators have been locked down

 

[Deleted member 158085]

not be snarky I have never cared of what they wanted to do afterwards -- i have never understood wondering that

that would be like mind reading now that is a conspiracy theory!!

that is one thing that has no meaning imo

ok he planned on escaping ok fine

ok he did not plan on escaping ok fine

now what

Well, I think the point is that he may have intended to do even more damage. That is something important to determine.

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[bears10]

The notion that a 911 center in a big city cant determine when the recieved the first call of something going on at the property imo does not float

if we were back in the 70's and stuff like had be logged by humans credible

these days no

in Pulse we hours of calls into 911

that is consistent with human behavior

they release body cams (15 secs) and not one call to 911 -- reason they are timestamped

it fits with the initial lie

they had nothing to hide

Pulse released hours of 911 calls

imo it has been purposeful attempts to murk everything up -- and that is the only thing he has done well moo

My dear CARIIS I know it’s easy to compare tragedies to ones that you’ve personally lived thru, I admit to doing the same but with 9/11 instead of pulse. But pulse was way different than this. There weren’t so many factors involved like major hotel corporation, security guards, bump stocks, money wired out of the country, etc. I know you want things to transpire the way they did for pulse, but it’s just not nearly the same. Please be patient.