NY – Ex POTUS Donald Trump, sued by E. Jean Carroll, DT found liable re sexual assault, $5M award, countersuit dismissed, appeal rejected, 2023

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They gave him a free campaign rally.
One can only wonder, if a certain ‘news‘ organization that allowed this forum this evening….. is perhaps trying to court a certain audience that was supposed to have left after the recent departure of one of their competitor‘s ‘broadcasters’?

How I harken back to the days of three national channels, and PBS or NPR on an old Curtis Mathes large console set.
MOO.
 
One can only wonder, if a certain ‘news‘ organization that allowed this forum this evening….. is perhaps trying to court a certain audience that was supposed to have left after the recent departure of one of their competitor‘s ‘broadcasters’?

How I harken back to the days of three national channels, and PBS or NPR on an old Curtis Mathes large console set.
MOO.
That was my thought as well. Their nemesis has been shamed and now they are trying to fill the void? Don't they have morals? Why don't truth, respect and integrity matter?
 
My opinion of Donald J Trump has not changed; there's not much that shocks me anymore when it comes to his disgusting displays of misogyny mixed with his sly turns of phrase that induces laughter at the expense of others.

He is dangerous, because his hatred and self serving animosity toward anyone who disagrees with him has infected an alarming amount of people who seem to lack basic personal integrity while embracing someone who demeans and attacks others for s**ts and giggles. I really don't know how to parse the responses of the audience tonight. Truly disturbing.
 

Trump unleashes litany of lies at town hall before mostly Republican audience​


Donald Trump appeared at a CNN town hall on Wednesday night to unleash a litany of lies about the 2020 election and E Jean Carroll’s lawsuit, just one day after a New York jury found the former president liable for sexual abuse and defamation.

[...]

Turning to Trump’s many legal liabilities, [Kaitlan Collins] asked the former president for his message to voters who argue that the verdict in Carroll’s lawsuit should disqualify him from seeking office. On Tuesday, a New York jury concluded that Trump had sexually abused Carroll 27 years earlier, ordering the former president to pay her $5m in damages for her battery and defamation claims.

Trump responded by attacking Carroll as a “whack job” and raising baseless doubts about the objectivity of the judge who oversaw the case. The New Hampshire crowd welcomed Trump’s offensive and often untrue statements, and some audience members laughed when Collins noted that the former president had been found liable for sexual abuse.

 

Trump’s CNN town hall was a mess of lies – and it was utterly predictable​

Adam Gabbatt in New York

Neither CNN nor its host was able to take control as the ex-president played steamroller, to the audience’s delight

It began and ended in a way that absolutely everyone could have predicted.

Appearing at a CNN town hall, Donald Trump immediately launched into a series of debunked, nonsense claims about election fraud, speaking nearly non-stop for more than five minutes.

Trump steamrolled over attempted interruptions from Kaitlan Collins, the CNN interviewer, as the town hall immediately turned into what many had feared: an opportunity for Trump to lie about dozens of topics, almost completely unfettered, across 60 minutes of primetime television.

From 8pm to just after 9pm, there was never a moment when CNN or Collins had any semblance of control.

[...]

At one particularly revolting point, Trump mocked E Jean Carroll, the columnist whom a New York jury found he sexually assaulted in a department store.

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According to CNN, the audience in Manchester, New Hampshire, was made up of “New Hampshire Republicans and undeclared voters”, but in reality the crowd might as well have been scooped up from a Trump campaign rally.

They laughed, whooped and applauded as Trump dished out a stream of his greatest hits.

[...]

In the face of so many lies, it seemed difficult for Collins to know which one to factcheck, and Trump was allowed to present his alternative version of the universe, including on the aims of people attempting to protect a woman’s right to abortion.

“‘You could kill the baby at 9 months or after it was born,’” Clara Jeffery, the editor of Mother Jones magazine, tweeted, quoting a false claim by Trump that Democrats wanted abortion to be legal up until, and apparently after, birth.

“Goes unchallenged. This [is] a journalistic abomination.”

[...]

When the town hall ended and the camera cut to the CNN studio, the panel of pundits seemed dumbstruck.

“We don’t have enough time to factcheck every lie he told,” said Jake Tapper, a senior CNN host.

“I want to be very clear: what we saw tonight was outrageous,” said Laura Coates, a legal analyst.

The CNN correspondent Jamie Gangel might have put it best.

“People are appalled by what they saw tonight,” she said.

It was hard to disagree.

 

Cable carnage: Trump turns CNN town hall into televised combat​


In what became an hour-long form of television combat on a variety of issues, Trump received routine applause from the Republican and Republican-leaning crowd, including over his dismissal of a recent verdict that found him guilty of sexual assault.

Trump responds to E. Jean Carroll​


Trump dismissed claims made by former advice columnist E. Jean Carroll that she was sexually assaulted by him in the dressing room of the luxury Manhattan department store Bergdorf Goodman years ago.

Trump claimed he did not know Carroll. And when asked if the case disqualified him from being president, he responded that his polling numbers “went up.”

The CNN town hall comes just one day after a federal jury in Manhattan found Trump liable for sexual battery and defamation and awarded Carroll $5 million in damages. Trump was not found liable for rape. Trump’s attorney said they planned to appeal.

Trump went on to joke about Carroll’s claims and called it a “fake story.”

And while he was at it​

Trump also defended his most infamous comments, made in an Access Hollywood videotape uncovered just before the 2016 election, that when you’re a star women “let you do” anything, including “grab ‘em by the p—.”

“I can take it back if you’d like to, but if you’re a famous person, if you’re a star — and I’m not referring to myself, I’m saying people that are famous, people that are stars, people that are rich, people that are powerful, they tend to do pretty well in a lot of different ways, okay?” Trump said. “I can’t take it back because it happens to be true. I’ve said it’s been true for 1 million years, approximately 1 million years, maybe a little longer than that.”

 
To no one's surprise:

Ex-Donald Trump staffers accuse him of sexual harassment in the White House

Discussing the verdict on CNN, Alyssa Farah Griffin, who quit as White House communications director in December 2020, said Trump had a pattern of behaving inappropriately with women while in the White House.

Newsweek has contacted Trump's office for comment via email.

"I have countless cases of what I considered impropriety in the White House that I brought to the chief of staff because I thought the way he engaged with women was dangerous," Farah Griffin said.
 

Trump would request the staffer in question to be on foreign trips "when it wasn't her turn," Grisham said. "He one time had one of my other deputies bring her back so that they could look at her *advertiser censored* is what he said to him."
 
My opinion of Donald J Trump has not changed; there's not much that shocks me anymore when it comes to his disgusting displays of misogyny mixed with his sly turns of phrase that induces laughter at the expense of others.

He is dangerous, because his hatred and self serving animosity toward anyone who disagrees with him has infected an alarming amount of people who seem to lack basic personal integrity while embracing someone who demeans and attacks others for s**ts and giggles. I really don't know how to parse the responses of the audience tonight. Truly disturbing.
Yes, so very true and well said, and sad. And equally or more troubling are those willing to accept the dribble and blather, and ‘follow’ or support at the expense of all else. And not to question, challenge or call out the untruths. Almost a contest for hatred and destruction.

From my own experiences, sometimes one with an excess of hatred and unwillingness to conform with conventional norms, contempt, and that disobeys reasonable order - might themselves have quite deep rooted self loathing, disgust, or even self dislike. No I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist - but would be interesting to have that analysis of the former President.
 

Trump would request the staffer in question to be on foreign trips "when it wasn't her turn," Grisham said. "He one time had one of my other deputies bring her back so that they could look at her *advertiser censored* is what he said to him."

I wonder if that was Hope Hicks or Melania look-alike like that would travel with him?
 
I didn't watch. I'm glad. I can find some corner of the internet if I want to see a live action echo chamber.
I didn’t watch either. I really think cable news is SO dangerous. It’s just entertainment designed to get people more worked up about stuff they’re already worked up about. Just like how the FDA is saying oat milk, almond milk, rice milk etc shouldn’t be able to be called “milk” I think cable entertainment news shouldn’t be able to be called “news.”
 
As former Republican congresswoman Barbara Comstock lamented after the verdict ......

“We have repulsed an entire generation with this guy,” said the former Virginia representative, who served under Trump until 2019.

“They’re seeing Republican men and women defending him by saying this type of thing is OK, or that the insurrection is OK, or that Donald Trump’s authoritarianism is OK.

‘Teflon Don’ sexual abuse case is a wake-up call
 
I didn’t watch either. I really think cable news is SO dangerous. It’s just entertainment designed to get people more worked up about stuff they’re already worked up about. Just like how the FDA is saying oat milk, almond milk, rice milk etc shouldn’t be able to be called “milk” I think cable entertainment news shouldn’t be able to be called “news.”

Agreed 1000%
 

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