EEK! I can understand for some drug offenses, but ARMED robbery???? Are you sure? If so, I don't get it. jmo“A major principle of our system is the more crimes you commit, the worse the punishment,” said defense attorney Mike Discioarro, a former Bronx prosecutor. “How is this guy getting a deal?
Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg cuts career criminal a sweetheart deal while busy prosecuting Trump
Rodney Johnson, a 53-year-old career criminal already on parole on a rape case, had his felony charges knocked down — even as the former president faces a controversial indictment.nypost.com
“Should we tell people to commit more crimes to get a better deal?”
Bragg has taken heat since he took office last year and announced he would not seek prison time on a slew of charges and would downgrade felony charges in hordes of cases — including armed robbery and drug offenses.
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omg is that his lil' tiny mouth I see in the middle of his thumbprint?
(it's art, so I'm just checkin' my vision here.)
Amazing that people still fall for crap like this but obviously they do.Here "Democrat voters" means a panel of 6 people where only 2 are alleged Democrats. And one of those Democrats, Marissa Caro-Cortese appears to be a professional Fox News anti-Democrat Democrat panelist.
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“A major principle of our system is the more crimes you commit, the worse the punishment,” said defense attorney Mike Discioarro, a former Bronx prosecutor. “How is this guy getting a deal?Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg cuts career criminal a sweetheart deal while busy prosecuting Trump
Rodney Johnson, a 53-year-old career criminal already on parole on a rape case, had his felony charges knocked down — even as the former president faces a controversial indictment.
“Should we tell people to commit more crimes to get a better deal?”
Bragg has taken heat since he took office last year and announced he would not seek prison time on a slew of charges and would downgrade felony charges in hordes of cases — including armed robbery and drug offenses.
Obviously irrelevant.
Perhaps less obvious: THIS IS A RED HERRING.
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After going over all the facts in this case, I find that the biggest hurdle for Bragg in bringing Trump to trial may be finding a jury of this great man's peers.
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It's totally relevant.
The DA in this case is known for taking felony cases and reducing them to misdemeanors while with Trump, for some reason, he's taking a misdemeanor case and trying to turn it into a felony case. Why? JMO.
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Well... at the moment, DA is charging 34 felonies, based on the cover-up of underlying misdemeanors. The indictment is a charging document and not the prosecution's presentation of the case and the supporting law. There is much more to DA's case to be presented in terms of motions, etc.. nor the details of the misdemeanors he's using here. At the moment we're still in the dark on these details.
This being the case, any dissection of the DA's case based on yesterday's indictment is based on assumptions about information not yet provided by the DA. The time to present that detail is yet to be determined.
As to relevance and the article referenced:
The article states that the lessening of charges is to avoid mandatory incarceration - statutory minimum prison sentences for "less violent crimes" that are clogging the prisons (especially where, in prosecution's judgement, they see an alternative approach ... case by case). You get a certain level of conviction (e.g. aggravated robbery, x degree), the prison sentence is mandatory. Time will be served.
a.k.a. Rikers is full. (a shorthand description of this megalopolis conundrum)
IMO, one reason the above issue discussed in the article is irrelevant to this white collar crime case b/c there's no statutory prison time attached to yesterday's Trump charges.
There are other reasons it's irrelevant, but I'll leave at this most relevant answer on irrelevancy for now.
all MOO.
His base wasn't enough to get him elected in 2020.
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You bring up another problem with this DA. He refused to tell us what the underlying felony that allows him to upgrade the misdemeanors to felonies is. What law was broken. I guess it could be legal for him to do that but he can't keep it secret for long.
If his case is really strong he would have made it public yesterday. JMO.
The SCOTUS ordered the release of his federal tax returns in Dec. 2022 after Trump's attorneys delayed, delayed, delayed. State tax returns are based on federal tax returns. Bragg convened the grand jury in Jan. 2023. Considering this is only 4 months later, I think Bragg has acted professionally and so has the grand jury.
The public has no way to know what has been uncovered in a criminal investigation until the defendant is charged.
The evidence presented to the grand jury has led to an indictment. We won't know the evidence until trial.
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Thanks for this.
“REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS SHOULD DE-FUND THE DOJ AND FBI UNTIL THEY COME TO THEIR SENSES,” he wrote on Truth Social. “THE DEMOCRATS HAVE TOTALLY WEAPONIZED LAW ENFORCEMENT IN OUR COUNTRY AND ARE VICIOUSLY USING THIS ABUSE OF POWER TO INTERFERE WITH OUR ALREADY UNDER SIEGE ELECTIONS!”
Donald Trump indictment live: Defund FBI and Justice Department, demands ex-president
Donald Trump has called for Republicans in Congress to the Department of Justice and the FBI “until they come to their senses”, less than a day after his arrest.www.telegraph.co.uk
In another post, he described his indictment as “morally disgusting” and added it had “NO MERIT” and “is not even a case”.
Mr Trump’s comments came after his lawyer, Joe Tacopina, pushed back on claims that the former president was inciting violence against the judge during his speech in Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday evening, when he called Justice Juan Merchen “the real criminal”.
Mr Tacopina told NBC this morning: "No one is suggesting anything should happen to the judge or his family, and President Trump's comments did not, in any way, shape or form, incite violence against the judge or anyone else."
My goodness.
1st question: What happens to national/international security when Congress defunds the United States' DOJ and the FBI?
IMO quick answer: exactly what Russia and China wish for.
2nd q: So ... that's an attack as to MAL docs and J6 cases under the special counsel.
Did he remember to demand the defunding of NYS's DOJ, and GA's?
(Yeah, I think he did.)
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Bragg’s case against Trump hits a wall of skepticism — even from Trump’s critics
A day after the historic arraignment, questions nagged Bragg’s case.
www.politico.com
Legal experts who had awaited Bragg’s charging documents to resolve some of the lingering mysteries about the case remained confounded by some aspects of the prosecution.
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Yes, it's frustrating for everyone. IMO, it's on purpose and strategic.
And it remains to be seen the strength of the case.
IMO any opining on strength of case theory or supporting facts at this juncture is based on ... not much.
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I’ve often wondered WTH #45 has going on with Graham. He becomes so pathetic when it comes to #45!Bring out the violins!
Sen. Lindsey Graham Fights Back Tears On Fox News, Begs Viewers To Give Trump Money After Arrest: 'I'm Sorry I'm So Upset'
Graham also complained that neither Bill Clinton nor Hillary Clinton were prosecuted despite lying under oath and mishandling government emails, respectively.radaronline.com
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During an emotional appearance on Sean Hannity’s eponymous program Hannity on Tuesday night, the South Carolina senator begged viewers to donate money to Trump’s campaign to ensure the United States does “not become a banana republic.”
“We got one last chance here to straighten this out,” Graham said in an appearance on “Hannity,” adding, “2024 is the most important election in my lifetime. America is literally at stake as we know it.”
“Please help President Trump,” he continued. “If you can afford 5 or 10 bucks, if you can’t afford a dollar, fine. Just pray. Make sure you vote as early as you can in your state. Don’t risk anything anymore. Vote as soon as you can. Pray for this country, pray for this president, and if you got any money to give, give it.”
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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday took to Fox News to call for donations to former President Trump following his arraignment on criminal charges in Manhattan. “We got one last chance here to …thehill.com
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I was told a few day's ago that I should wait until President Trump's appearance in court where the charges against him would be made public before weighing the merits of this case. The DA didn't let the defendant know all of the crimes he's accused of which I find to be strange. Why?
Now I have to wait some more? JMO.
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Stone tablets from a Middle East cave accepted? Any caves in Ohio? Lol!
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