Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 1

[LivingJuicy]

My blood pressure is rising..

SO wait, he wanted to divorce her but she begged for him not to.

Now she's missing.

I don't believe for a second that she left for a man. Everything is so conflicting. UGH.

She wouldn't leave her kids or him. She was invested in her family in all aspects from cooking, sewing, etc.

My theory would be that he did want out, maybe he cheated, maybe she found out, maybe she was going to leave or threatening legal action such as the kids, money, the home, etc. and he disposed of her. Heck, sounds like he was no longer in love.

 

[nursebeeme]

http://cnynews.com/search-for-missing-jennifer-ramsaran-still-ongoing/

sorry if this was already posted (update from LE last week)

 

[fringles]

I do have to wonder... the fact that she was 'dissociating' from her family - I wonder if this was to do with something in her relationship, rather than anything on her end. I mean, if I was in an unhappy relationship then I don't know how I'd feel about making pretend that everything was just swell either, or continuing to wash, cook, clean after everybody. I understand that there are kids involved, but I guess I suspect that it wasn't them she was failing to run around after.

MOO

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Yes, I did say that. The "JR-Help Find Her" FB page doubled its "likes" in about a day (today). I haven't kept track of the "likes," but noticed a very high volume of activity today, especially with emails from friends and family (over 60 today, from various people, but not 60 different people, of course). Many from Norwich.

Not sure about the change in strategy or if something came out that wasn't before released (ie. your idea bout the police maybe advising people to vocalize). All of the emails voiced frustration about the quietness of the case. My gut tells me that they've gotten fed up with staying silent for so long. Incidentally, almost all of them have asked me to maintain their anonymity, which is odd (as well as concerning, because I've asked them all to go to the police with their concerns, and if they're scared, I'm afraid they won't). I did mention that there calls will be kept confidential, per the Sheriff's Dept. link, which I gave to all of them.

The "unusual amount of mud" comment may have gotten people thinking more. It sure has me up this late at night wondering what's up with that...

I am really curious about why so many people replying to the FB page feel a need to remain anonymous...

it sounds like many surrounding this case have a fear of relaying information... And I wonder where this fear stems from... If fear it is... :waitasec:

JMO

 

[Jilllian]

I am really curious about why so many people replying to the FB page feel a need to remain anonymous...

it sounds like many surrounding this case have a fear of relaying information... And I wonder where this fear stems from... If fear it is... :waitasec:

JMO

I would strongly speculate that it is fear of GR and fear that they will no longer have access to information from him via FB and/or other sources.

 

[fringles]

I am really curious about why so many people replying to the FB page feel a need to remain anonymous...

it sounds like many surrounding this case have a fear of relaying information... And I wonder where this fear stems from... If fear it is... :waitasec:

JMO

I did think it might be that they're suspicious, but they fear going public in case they're wrong. I know social niceties can be very powerful in small towns - and if you were suspicious without being certain, you might think 'but what if I state this in public and I'm wrong' and be imagining running into him at the store in the future.

Plus, people tend to feel that they're the only one, or in the minority. So probably people are discussing it with their close friends, but think they're the only ones who feel that way.

Maybe. Or maybe it's something else, I really don't know.

 

[Londonrraine]

I did think it might be that they're suspicious, but they fear going public in case they're wrong. I know social niceties can be very powerful in small towns - and if you were suspicious without being certain, you might think 'but what if I state this in public and I'm wrong' and be imagining running into him at the store in the future.

Plus, people tend to feel that they're the only one, or in the minority. So probably people are discussing it with their close friends, but think they're the only ones who feel that way.

Maybe. Or maybe it's something else, I really don't know.

Maybe GR is 'connected', or has this family convinced that he has such power.

 

[krey]

I did think it might be that they're suspicious, but they fear going public in case they're wrong. I know social niceties can be very powerful in small towns - and if you were suspicious without being certain, you might think 'but what if I state this in public and I'm wrong' and be imagining running into him at the store in the future.

Plus, people tend to feel that they're the only one, or in the minority. So probably people are discussing it with their close friends, but think they're the only ones who feel that way.

Maybe. Or maybe it's something else, I really don't know.

This makes great sense.

 

[krey]

Hey all. Anything new going on? I saw that JR's sister commented on the Help Find Her page.

 

[momrids6]

Does your area have a small local paper that everyone reads? Maybe an ad in it would help.

I know what LE said about searching- however, maybe a call to CUE would help?

 

[Jilllian]

Does your area have a small local paper that everyone reads? Maybe an ad in it would help.

I know what LE said about searching- however, maybe a call to CUE would help?

It has two small area papers: The Oneonta Daily Star (Oneonta, NY) and The Evening Sun (Norwich, NY).

What is CUE, momrids6?

 

[momrids6]

What is CUE, momrids6?

http://www.ncmissingpersons.org/

 

[krey]

Does anyone here, at this point in time, think she may have been randomly carjacked? I know we've hit upon it here and there, but theories and opinions change. The only reason I'm thinking of it right now is because of the mud on the car. Random crimes (someone who doesn't know the victim) seem like they would leave less evidence and be harder to solve. Also thinking of the Whitney Heichel case (even though she did, in fact, know her abductor/killer).

 

[The Cheese]

Does anyone here, at this point in time, think she may have been randomly carjacked? I know we've hit upon it here and there, but theories and opinions change. The only reason I'm thinking of it right now is because of the mud on the car. Random crimes (someone who doesn't know the victim) seem like they would leave less evidence and be harder to solve. Also thinking of the Whitney Heichel case (even though she did, in fact, know her abductor/killer).

It's hard to tell what happened, except I don't for one second think she left willingly. The car and the phone don't fit with that.

Could be random abductor. Could be abduction by someone she knows. Could be the husband but I don't see anything suspicious other than he was last to see her, and that can just be bad luck. And I'm not comfortable accusing family members until the police indicate they have something towards them. But I'd be beyond shocked if she left on her own.

:twocents: :twocents: :twocents:

 

[OldSteve]

"May have changed her hairstyle and color"? Doesn't anyone know what color her hair was when she was last seen?

IIRC she went from blonde to brunette just before she went missing (not sure how long though) - the hair color change got me going on about how when a gal changes hair color it might indicate desire to change more than her hair color...it might also be done to please someone new she has met, or even to please the spouse if she thinks he has the hots for someone of the that air color.

 

[Jilllian]

http://www.ncmissingpersons.org/

IIRC she went from blonde to brunette just before she went missing (not sure how long though) - the hair color change got me going on about how when a gal changes hair color it might indicate desire to change more than her hair color...it might also be done to please someone new she has met, or even to please the spouse if she thinks he has the hots for someone of the that air color.

Personally, I think when woman change their hair color, it's for themselves and no one else. If we get gray hair, we want to cover that up, generally speaking that is. If we want to go from brunette to blonde and back, we just do, and sometimes just to "mix it up" and experiment with what we think looks best. I don't know of any female friends, married or single, who have dyed their hair for any other reason.

Interesting that no one questions why men "wash that gray right out of their hair" but when women do it, it has to mean much more...

 

[Hexe]

IIRC she went from blonde to brunette just before she went missing (not sure how long though) - the hair color change got me going on about how when a gal changes hair color it might indicate desire to change more than her hair color...it might also be done to please someone new she has met, or even to please the spouse if she thinks he has the hots for someone of the that air color.

Or maybe she just wanted to do something for herself just for a change. I wouldn't put too much weight on Jennifer's hairdo changes. It wasn't even anything drastic, but a thing most women do from time to time.

I was once in a relationship with a psychopath. Being a control freak (aren't all of them?) the dude told me how to dress and how to keep my hair. If my clothes or hairdo didn't fit his taste, he called me a wh*re. So the first thing I did, when I escaped from him was dying my hair fire engine red (Mr. Freak dissaproved dying hair strongly), then I shaved my head bald (as for him woman could only wear her hair long). When I finally regrown my hair back, I wore a pixie cut, dyed jet black. It was my little manifesto, a scream "My body belongs to me and only I decide about my appearance!" So yes, sometimes hairdo changes can be telling, as you can see, but more often than not we just want to look good. Nothing more, nothing less

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Does anyone here, at this point in time, think she may have been randomly carjacked? I know we've hit upon it here and there, but theories and opinions change. The only reason I'm thinking of it right now is because of the mud on the car. Random crimes (someone who doesn't know the victim) seem like they would leave less evidence and be harder to solve. Also thinking of the Whitney Heichel case (even though she did, in fact, know her abductor/killer).

From information relayed by MSM/LE... I don't feel I can rule most any theory out yet...

JMO

 

[cluciano63]

Well, sometimes people change their hair color as a part of a disguise, which would fit if she was taking off. Seems odd if she really did it that day, just to go to the mall, it is kind of a pain in the *advertiser censored**, JMO.

 

[Jilllian]

Well, sometimes people change their hair color as a part of a disguise, which would fit if she was taking off. Seems odd if she really did it that day, just to go to the mall, it is kind of a pain in the *advertiser censored**, JMO.

Seems like if she were doing it to disguise her appearance, she wouldn't have left locks of hair in the sink and the hair coloring kit in the bathroom trash.

I would think she would have been more careful, especially since her husband was home at the time. And, since her husband was home at the time, why would she disguise herself then? Why not wait until she was alone? This is an educated, intelligent woman. JMO