Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 4

[imamaze]

The pin on the map that indicates where the phone was found would show the same as where the highway building is. They're only about 100 yards apart. Maybe a little more?

Map person, where are you? Anyone good at google-earthing Moon Hill Road and Chan Aldrich Road and posting pics of the ravines? I see that a lot of people dispose of old tires and other trash over the banks.

Also, does anyone know if I can post pics here? Not *advertiser censored* or anything, just hiking pics and apartment pics?

BBM...

Jillian, the pics are ok providing they don't have anyone in them.

If its pics of the area it should be fine.

Ima

 

[Caring4Many]

When watching the video, I don't see an older couple resembling Jen.
So I would say they were not there, nor was her sister.
So if I am correct the non-attendees were - ES's Husband, Jen's parents, Jen's sister and any of jen's extended family (ie- cousins, aunts etc)
Hmm I wonder why they chose not to attend?

I think that in itself says a lot, not necessarily negative either. JMO.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I am curious, why is this woman that supposedly there 'was' an affair with, being referred to as 'mistress'? Unless there is a continuing intimate relationship with the said person, it might be a misnomer, in my humble opinion. I don't know, it just bothers me, regardless of the who , what or why that Jennifer is missing. Just wanted to share my thought....please don't hit me.

As an aside, because I am very out of the box- I am curious as to this work that Jennifer did, for an elderly gentleman. Could this some how be related to her missing, in some context? Did she take him to appointments, form any friendships connected to those that he knows/related to, use the landline at his home? When was the last time she was there? And I hate to ask, did she have any access to his drugs?

Also , was there any LE presence at the event today?

Sre.... I applaud your consistent efforts in "thinking outside the box"...

This makes for one terrific Sleuther... And I always respect your posts in the threads I am lucky to be on with you!

and... Thank you SOOO much for all your work with SAR... You are on "the front line" on finding Missing Persons!

:great:

 

[krey]

If I were JR's parents/sister, I wouldn't want to go to an event and watch the mistress work her stuf while pretending to care about my missing daughter. It would make me vomit. I don't know if this has anything to do with why they didn't go, just that this is how I'd personally feel about it.

Wonder what GR told the kids about their grandparents' absence?

 

[thefox]

snipped for brevity
maybe they need to have an HRD dog check out that mud pile

It's an active sand pile used to sand the roads. Not mud.

 

[Jilllian]

Personally, I didn't like the fact that the children were shown on camera during the interview. I felt so bad for them.

And I remembered that GR had said that kids at school were supportive of him (of GR, I mean) and said something like "Don't worry, Mr. Ramsaran. We've got *advertiser censored*'s <son's name> back. We won't let anyone pick on him."

First, I wondered who picks on kids with missing moms? Even the worst of bullies draw the line there, I'm guessing.

And today I wondered, if that's even a remote concern, why show the children on camera? Was it to show everyone that they're doing alright without their mom around?

 

[Caring4Many]

If I were JR's parents/sister, I wouldn't want to go to an event and watch the mistress work her stuf while pretending to care about my missing daughter. It would make me vomit. I don't know if this has anything to do with why they didn't go, just that this is how I'd personally feel about it.

Wonder what GR told the kids about their grandparents' absence?

One of many things that I was referring to when I said above that it wasn't necessarily negative. I also think that if it were my sister & I thought he'd done something to her I would avoid a confrontational situation in public and in front of her children. Especially if I wasn't sure what he was going to say. I would have a hard time hearing him say my sister ran away, probably even if she had. there are others of course.

Where are you Jennifer?

 

[sreshowtime]

.. .And I always respect your posts in the threads I am lucky to be on with you!....

snipped thanks IHNC I really appreciate your kind words- I know you have been around a long time too :seeya:
you know my 'sar' thing is with our girl Hailey...I am just a groupie

IMHO, Until we are made aware of other evidence, etc. on a case, one must try to think somewhat logically out of the box...you never know when one little tidbit will open up an avenue to explore


Jillian, please do post some pics, would be nice to see a different perspective than Mr Googleman on the map

you could just call the person ES mebbee

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Personally, I didn't like the fact that the children were shown on camera during the interview. I felt so bad for them.

And I remembered that GR had said that kids at school were supportive of him (of GR, I mean) and said something like "Don't worry, Mr. Ramsaran. We've got *advertiser censored*'s <son's name> back. We won't let anyone pick on him."

First, I wondered who picks on kids with missing moms? Even the worst of bullies draw the line there, I'm guessing.

And today I wondered, if that's even a remote concern, why show the children on camera? Was it to show everyone that they're doing alright without their mom around?

Yes... IIRC.. Weren't the children's pix taken off of Jen's FB account to protect the children?

I wonder if that is the one thing an alive, missing mom would WANT to see... Might even search for.... if she is not at home... She would probably really WANT to see pix of her children!

(I am thinking how on Ivey M's thread we posted "Come Home.. We Miss You!"
Type messages and pix of her beloved pet dog...

In fact... Wasn't it the constant outpouring of caring... And pix of her dog that helped her make the decision to come home?)

and... We did not know if she had left... If she were alive... Or not at the time of all this posting...

JMO

 

[Jilllian]

That would be great if they would, but i lost a nephew in a shooting in the same county and CCS has to close the case before FBI would take the case. I so hope it wouldn't be the same with a missing person! JMO

Catching up on posts and wanted to just say that I'm sorry about your nephew.

 

[sreshowtime]

It's an active sand pile used to sand the roads. Not mud.

Do you know how low it gets before it is replenished? Is there a 'backside' to it?
Is there a backhoe on site to disperse it with, into the trucks?

 

[thefox]

Do you know how low it gets before it is replenished? Is there a 'backside' to it?
Is there a backhoe on site to disperse it with, into the trucks?

It is replenished as the season permits. Yes there are back sides. It would be very difficult to bury one in the pile without being noticed as the super lives within eye sight and crews were working daily.

 

[sreshowtime]

Oh yes IHNC- Ivy M. from -yes the families FB played a HUGE part in bringing her home! She had actually seen it,on a library public accessed computer if I recall and was on the VERGE of going into a police precinct to present herself, when her parents rounded the corner and there she was sitting on the steps...I still get shivers
You just never know.

 

[krey]

O/T Just happened to see this article - WOW!

Brother of Josh Powell kills himself in Minnesota
http://www.wsbtv.com/ap/ap/us/brother-of-josh-powell-kills-himself-in-minnesota/nWPSk/

 

[nanasbabes]

Thank you jillian for your concern for my nephew. Its just hard knowing JR is missing and the only people that are really looking are not the police. I'm sure hoping they have a good reason for it!

 

[Truman]

Just to clarify, ES's husband was NOT at the gathering yesterday? Were her children?

 

[OffRoadRunner]

he gravel pit has been disturbed. But that is only what I, myself saw...

There are also locations that fit right behind the fire station....

The gravel pit is not a gravel pit.. it is the towns sand pile that is right on the creek. The town is using that regularly for sanding the roads...

What do you mean by locations that fit right behind the fire station? That is Pierce Road, a dead end road.

 

[LolaAngelina]

If I were JR's parents/sister, I wouldn't want to go to an event and watch the mistress work her stuf while pretending to care about my missing daughter. It would make me vomit. I don't know if this has anything to do with why they didn't go, just that this is how I'd personally feel about it.

Wonder what GR told the kids about their grandparents' absence?

Good question Krey

 

[LolaAngelina]

Just to clarify, ES's husband was NOT at the gathering yesterday? Were her children?

It appears yes from the video

 

[LolaAngelina]

One of many things that I was referring to when I said above that it wasn't necessarily negative. I also think that if it were my sister & I thought he'd done something to her I would avoid a confrontational situation in public and in front of her children. Especially if I wasn't sure what he was going to say. I would have a hard time hearing him say my sister ran away, probably even if she had. there are others of course.

Where are you Jennifer?

Yes I agree with both you and Krey. I think they did not attend for both those reasons. Still represents their feelings towards GR and what they think happened to JR.
Were they even invited though?