NY-LI 10 bodies found on Beach-Poss. SrlKlr-12/10-4 id'd; more found 3/11 #5

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Hi, Chanler. I guess I didn't make myself clear in my post. Agreed, SG was there of her own volition to have sex. What I was implying was that the sexual acts the client had in mind might not have been something SG would have consented to had she not been incapacitated.

I'm not saying she was drugged, just saying that, from accounts I've read and heard, her behaviour certainly appears to indicate that she may have been. Could her behaviour also be explained as a manic state of someone who was bi-polar? That's also a possibility. But I question why she thought someone was trying to kill her. What set THAT thought into her mind?

Anyway, just some thoughts.

Hi, Mountain Kat. I think that you're right: We should remains open to other possibilities. I do think, however, that Shannan had been a working girl for several years and would be unlikely to be surprised by most sexual requests. In any case, she could have used her access to the phone to call her driver, who was waiting. As far as we know, her call to 911 was not interrupted by anyone in the house. As to why she blurted out irrational accusing statements and fled several houses, I think that an exhausted bipolar young woman on cocaine (some of which she might have shared at the house) might respond with just such paranoia and anxiety.

My sense is that Shannan was spotted by some driver trawling for helpless, inebriated victims. And this poor woman certainly fit the bill.

I think that police commissioner was right to caution that this is not an episode on CSI. Assuming that the evil deed must have been done by the first people mentioned in the case is unlikely to prove true. There are clear indications that Shannan fled not one house, but several, and that her behavior would have made her easy prey for a passing motorist.
 
Yes! The part about the $900 struck me too. It is odd that this particular number was used. Kind of reminds me of the weird note Patsy Ramsey found which named the exact sum of her husband's bonus (? if I recall correctly).

I emailed the NY Daily News but I wonder if they will ever find my email. Maybe I should call the FBI myself....

Hi, Columbo. The $900 was said to be deposited by Melissa Barthelemy:

"On July 10 nearly two years ago, Ms. Barthelemy saw a client and then deposited $900 into her bank account, her mother said. That night she called an old boyfriend, but he did not pick up. Then she disappeared."

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/u...ated-understanding-of-police-techniques-97329
 
I'm just getting on for the first time today.

I can't believe one of the remains is a male - I was only half serious when I said I was expecting one of them to be male because everything else doesn't make sense.
 
Hi, Mountain Kat. I think that you're right: We should remains open to other possibilities. I do think, however, that Shannan had been a working girl for several years and would be unlikely to be surprised by most sexual requests. In any case, she could have used her access to the phone to call her driver, who was waiting. As far as we know, her call to 911 was not interrupted by anyone in the house. As to why she blurted out irrational accusing statements and fled several houses, I think that an exhausted bipolar young woman on cocaine (some of which she might have shared at the house) might respond with just such paranoia and anxiety.

My sense is that Shannan was spotted by some driver trawling for helpless, inebriated victims. And this poor woman certainly fit the bill.

But would one expect to see anyone out there at night? It sounds pretty desolate. It seems too coincidental to me that she would have happened to be there just when a killer drove by. Unless the SK was there that night, dumping bodies and saw her...
 
My sense is that Shannan was spotted by some driver trawling for helpless, inebriated victims. And this poor woman certainly fit the bill.

Could be. I said that in one of my first posts on this case, that the sk probably knew that prostitutes frequented that gated community and was waiting by the road, in his usual trolling area.

(I'll find my post)
 
Probably have paid Wicked Joel a visit already with more scheduled.

No wonder he inserted himself into this case with his opinion. He probably knew they would eventually find some of his and he probably thinks its funny or something.
 
do we know why the Doctor was up at that hour on the beach? was he driving? or did he see her from his house? was he on foot? or a car?

she looked sick? how? was she throwing up? she looked distressed? how? was she crying? was her makeup smeared? was she fumbling with her purse? HOW?

When he says he can't imagine it...I think he's lying.

Supposably it was daylight at 5am when she was running around. I get up at 5am for work everyday, I don't think being up at 5am is that abnormal IMO.
 
But would one expect to see anyone out there at night? It sounds pretty desolate. It seems too coincidental to me that she would have happened to be there just when a killer drove by. Unless the SK was there that night, dumping bodies and saw her...

Hi, CLuciano63. Killers don't crave company; a desolate stretch would suit a murderer as well as a body dumper. Every individual murder is statistically unlikely. I think that because the women whose bodies have been all worked on Craigslists (and probably other ways as well), that many of us assume that they were all killed by their johns or even that they were all killed in the johns' houses. I think that working girls are vulnerable in several ways: Most of them abuse drugs and/or alcohol and they often dress in ways that men with sexual or control issues find magnetic.
 
Could be. I said that in one of my first posts on this case, that the sk probably knew that prostitutes frequented that gated community and was waiting by the road, in his usual trolling area.

(I'll find my post)

Hi, Concentric; I think that what you write is entirely possible.
 
LMAO!! Ive also felt the pain of an unexpected result! :)

I have 34 UNSOLVED?! :eek:

That creeps me out. It looks like it is missing data for the last 10 years too. That is REALLY unexpected, my county is the "rich hoity-toity" county of the Chicago area. The majority of the towns are like the one that this LI SK put into the spotlight.

Meanwhile the county next door had 2 unsolved. Bizarre. Again, looked like it was missing last 10 years so they had the same data.
 
Does anyone, besides me, wonder if there are strippers from West Babylon who have turned up missing? There are alot of strip clubs over there. Just makes me wonder if our SK limits himself to CL prostitutes, or if he also searches for strippers willing to make alittle side money.

Ooooo good thought!!! Sleuthers, get your sleuthin' caps on!
 
That would take a lot of dedication, to wait every night for prostitutes to appear after visiting their johns and then manage to get them into his house or his car and away from their drivers. To hang out for weeks or months at a time without being noticed.
 
Not a local, but here is a map.

There was actually 5 found together... they just found the 5th in April after finding the first 4 in December. Then one alone, then 2 together. Then the 2 just found Monday.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/bodies-found-at-li-beaches-1.2541830?qr=1

Can a local confirm if this Map is accurate, for the recovery locations?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-10-victims-internet.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
 
But would one expect to see anyone out there at night? It sounds pretty desolate. It seems too coincidental to me that she would have happened to be there just when a killer drove by. Unless the SK was there that night, dumping bodies and saw her...


I agree, but wondered last night if the SK might have had a police scanner and heard the dispatch to the beach area, or that the dr. might have heard the commotion and went out to see what was going on. Shannon was on the phone with 911 until it seemed that she was abducted. Did Shannon actually mention the white SUV and then start telling someone to "quit" or "stop it", or did I get that mixed up with a white vehicle being seen in a video?
 
not sure if this is worth mentioning but what if its someone who works for Craigslist advertising? The person who takes the details from these girls to place the advertisment? I dont know just thinking outside the square here.
 
When an ad is placed on Craigslist, it is just typed in and "Entered" into the database. I don't think there is any real person who must approve them first.
 
When an ad is placed on Craigslist, it is just typed in and "Entered" into the database. I don't think there is any real person who must approve them first.

ok that scratches that thought! Has the Press Conference happened yet? Im not in the US.
Cheers
 
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