NY - LISK Bodies found as of December 10, 2011 Thread #13

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waltzingmatilda said:
May you rest in peace, Shannan.
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I'm so sorry. At least now the family knows. My heart goes out to them. I just hope that her death is investigated thoroughly, and that the LISK - whether he turns out to be connected to this or not - is caught very soon. Whatever happened to Shannan, it was her disappearance that led to finding out about these crimes, and will ultimately lead to whoever is responsible being stopped and brought to justice. From what I have read, she seemed to be a beautiful person, but he is just a pathetic nothing.
 
Given what we know about her and her behaviour specifically that night, it would appear that she went on an outcall, was probably doing drugs and likely too much. Hence the wierd behaviour reported by her client and the guy at the house she ran to, and the 20 minute 911 call from within the house. It looks like she did too much of whatever she was on, went psychotic and eventually died from being OD after first running through the subdivision and then into the swamp. If you look at the pictures posted earlier showing the locations of where she was sighted and where her stuff and body were found, you can see the approximate route she would have taken.

We will see when they determine the cause of death.

It seems pretty unlikely that her client would be the person responsible for all these deaths, since it was an outcall to his home and obviously both her security would have known where she was. That seems like far too much risk to me, but you never know. In any case we know that she was out and running through the woods after leaving his house, he would not have been able to find her in the dark like that, so I don't think it is him.

At first glance it would seem that it was just coincidence that it happened to take place close to the location of one or more serial killers dumping ground.
 
Wow now I'm sure the Drifter PA is the killer since the mods deleted my post about him. Thx mods! :websleuther:
 
When I heard just now that the remains were identified as Shannan's, I felt sad. But now I feel really angry. I haven't felt angry about this in this way before. I'm really pissed. This shouldn't have happened. I think Shannan's disappearance was mishandled and not taken seriously from day one, and it's outrageous. If it turns out that Shannan has been there all along - regardless of whether or not she was the victim of the SK - that's SHAMEFUL. How in hell could she be there all this time and they didn't find her? That's not okay, and it's not okay that the tape at the gate was allowed to tape over or went missing or whatever. While it's not fair that innocent people who live in that area have to suffer, nonetheless, somethings smells a little in that community, and that pisses me off too. And I think more could have been done the night she went running down the street, too. I swear if someone came to my door freaking out like that, I'd get a bat and run out on the street myself. (I heard recently about a woman who saved another woman from a rapist by running out on the street in her pajamas after hearing her screams!)

This whole thing stinks and that is partly why, I think, so many people are obsessed with it. LE had better not screw up anymore, and I hope they learn a lesson from this too. And if it ends up that her death really wasn't the result of anything nefarious, they're still remiss, as far as I'm concerned.

As for the SK, he'd better hope some vigilante doesn't find out his identity and come after him. I bet I'm not the only one who's furious and sick of this crap happening to women. (I'm not advocating vigilantism - I hope he's brought to justice and has to face what he's done in court, but I wouldn't cry if he something did happen to him!)

(Sorry, I hope it's okay for me to vent in this manner!)
 
Tugela said:
Given what we know about her and her behaviour specifically that night, it would appear that she went on an outcall, was probably doing drugs and likely too much. Hence the wierd behaviour reported by her client and the guy at the house she ran to, and the 20 minute 911 call from within the house. It looks like she did too much of whatever she was on, went psychotic and eventually died from being OD after first running through the subdivision and then into the swamp. If you look at the pictures posted earlier showing the locations of where she was sighted and where her stuff and body were found, you can see the approximate route she would have taken.

We will see when they determine the cause of death.

It seems pretty unlikely that her client would be the person responsible for all these deaths, since it was an outcall to his home and obviously both her security would have known where she was. That seems like far too much risk to me, but you never know. In any case we know that she was out and running through the woods after leaving his house, he would not have been able to find her in the dark like that, so I don't think it is him.

At first glance it would seem that it was just coincidence that it happened to take place close to the location of one or more serial killers dumping ground.
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If you are new to this thread or subject, you should go back and read. It's really not so cut and dry. Remember the kid who was drugged by Jeffrey Dahmer and almost escaped, but they thought it was just a lover's quarrel or something and didn't intervene? Convenient for SK's when victims aren't taken seriously. Regardless, if you read back about this case, you will see it's still a shameful situation, regardless of whether or not anything malevolent happened.
 
Condolences to all family and friends who loved her.

Rest in Peace Shannan
 
snapdragon,

You should be mad. We pay these cops a fortune! The average local cop on Long island makes about $150K a year with overtime. And they want more!!! The have a very strong union that likes to have it's way. And if they don't get their way, they are very good at making it very difficult for the politicians in office.

The incompetence of LE in this case has everything to do with their discord with their Suffolk County Executive on the SCPD patrolling the NY State roads. And whether they are going to hire new cadets. I know a couple of Suffolk cops and it amazes me how lazy they are. And how unconcerned they are with crime. They ignore dispatchers. They look for cake assignments. And they grab as much OT as possible. And yet they still complain in the end.

It's sad because we throw a lot of money at LE in this area. But we are not getting our bang for the buck because of greed and the pursuit of power for these individuals. And the residents of Suffolk will bear the brunt of the pain. There are less K-9 units and less Police helicopter flights because they need to preserve what little money hasn't been hoarded away by the massive amounts of OT and benefits that the current cops have. It's shameful. It's legalized robbery! And SG's case is the perfect example of it. Very sad state of affairs in Suffolk County!
 
snapdragon2 said:
When I heard just now that the remains were identified as Shannan's, I felt sad. But now I feel really angry. I haven't felt angry about this in this way before. I'm really pissed. This shouldn't have happened. I think Shannan's disappearance was mishandled and not taken seriously from day one, and it's outrageous. If it turns out that Shannan has been there all along - regardless of whether or not she was the victim of the SK - that's SHAMEFUL. How in hell could she be there all this time and they didn't find her? That's not okay, and it's not okay that the tape at the gate was allowed to tape over or went missing or whatever. While it's not fair that innocent people who live in that area have to suffer, nonetheless, somethings smells a little in that community, and that pisses me off too. And I think more could have been done the night she went running down the street, too. I swear if someone came to my door freaking out like that, I'd get a bat and run out on the street myself. (I heard recently about a woman who saved another woman from a rapist by running out on the street in her pajamas after hearing her screams!)

This whole thing stinks and that is partly why, I think, so many people are obsessed with it. LE had better not screw up anymore, and I hope they learn a lesson from this too. And if it ends up that her death really wasn't the result of anything nefarious, they're still remiss, as far as I'm concerned.

As for the SK, he'd better hope some vigilante doesn't find out his identity and come after him. I bet I'm not the only one who's furious and sick of this crap happening to women. (I'm not advocating vigilantism - I hope he's brought to justice and has to face what he's done in court, but I wouldn't cry if he something did happen to him!)

(Sorry, I hope it's okay for me to vent in this manner!)
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Thanks wasn't enough, snapdragon. I feel the exact same way!
 
I am deeply saddened to hear about Shannan Gilbert's passing. My heart goes out to Shannan's family, friends and loved ones.

I am praying for justice.
 
Thoughts and prayers going out tonight to Shannan's family and loved ones.
 
God bless Shannan and give her family the strength to get through this ordeal so close to the holidays.
 
What if the cause of death is drowning? Where do we go from there? That means the sk wasn't involved with Shannon, yet 10 bodies found in the search for her. He's quite elusive and I'm afraid that the case is going to go cold--unless, unfortunately, there is another victim or better yet, a victim actually gets away from him.

I think the best bet is to try and fish him out through those who obliviously know him.
 
Sistah Sleuth said:
What if the cause of death is drowning? Where do we go from there? That means the sk wasn't involved with Shannon, yet 10 bodies found in the search for her. He's quite elusive and I'm afraid that the case is going to go cold--unless, unfortunately, there is another victim or better yet, a victim actually gets away from him.

I think the best bet is to try and fish him out through those who obliviously know him.
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If they are able to determine the COD to be drowning (which I doubt will happen), it still doesn't prove that there wasn't foul play, IMO. Someone still could have been chasing her or perhaps someone could have held her down (SK or otherwise). Of course, accidental drowning is possible, I just don't think I'll ever be able to accept that in light of all the other circumstances. I really want to hear that 911 call...
 
Shannan DID NOT have her bag on her when she arrived at GC door, I know this because I witnessed him saying so myself this past week... It does not mean I believe him, but none the less, this is what he reported this week.
 
If Shannon's death is ruled accidental, I want to know what kind of tip LE received over Thanksgiving that led them to renew their search for her.
 
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