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A comment IM made is bugging me. In talking about the car being processed by LE for 5 weeks she calls it "my car".
 
A comment IM made is bugging me. In talking about the car being processed by LE for 5 weeks she calls it "my car".

You know, Curious, I read that as well and it struck me as odd also...it has always been "his" car, and now "my" car...just the change in pronoun stood out...:twocents:

MOO and all that...
 
Exactly! I got the feeling maybe RM was not in charge of anything. Not that there's anything wrong with that in relationships but made me wonder how "under the thumb" he was kept.
 
Welcome to WS...like you, I kind of feel he left on his own, my alternate scenario being he was in some sort of trouble and it caught up with him in a really bad way. If he left on his own, I still feel it was due to some problem, rather than a frivolous reason, such as an affair. Wish we knew for sure if the bike is really missing, or if he had it with him for sure.

Agree - I'm with you. Leaving on his own, he'd be smart enough to have been stashing things away and leaving no tracks.

As for a reason, we don't really know much/anything about him...

To prove, LE has to really search.... maybe used a computer someplace where he wasn't known, had a fake account... Tricky since he appears to always have come home directly after work...
 
hello. I have been reading all of your posts since RM went missing, but just joined. I believe RM left on his own, but I will feel awful if I later learn I am wrong, so I'm keeping an open mind and considering so many other scenarios. I joined this group only to mention a recent experience with a large mountain bike, and a small car. this past Tuesday by BF went for a long ride and ended at a party a few towns over. I met up with him after dark to provide a ride home. in order to fit the bike in the car he removed BOTH tires. this was done with no tools and took less than 2 mins, in the dark. when we arrived home he immediately put them back on, again, with no tools in the dark and in less than 2 mins. I believe RM took his bike that day. If he left on his own, perhaps the car was left at the station to make it appear he had taken the train, when really he rode his bike to meet his actual ride out. if not, then maybe he felt that being home early, with wife and kids out, he could take a quick ride, and had an accident. I just don't understand why he would start his ride at the station then.

Nice post desensitized. Welcome to the thread and WS!

Your theory would explain why the dogs couldn't find any scent leading away from his car. If he just hopped on the bike there wouldn't be any.
 
Hi! And welcome to WS!! You're input is greatly appreciated!

The only problem I personally have with this theory is that IM specifically mentioned he would NEVER put the bike in his back seat. The car was his love, like another child, and wouldn't take the chance in damaging the interior. Otherwise, bike in the back seat makes total sense, hence the seat being pulled up.

Under normal circumstances he probably wouldn't have. However if he planned to leave, or he had to get away in a hurry because of some kind of danger, he might not care about the car.

Also, is IM's statement to be interpreted as meaning " In the past he never put the bike in the car" (she's never seen him doing that) or "He would never in his life put the bike in the car" (she thinks it's absolutley impossible he would ever do something like that)?
 
I'm unsure about the bike thing and if it truly is relevant at all. IIRC, he wasn't an avid bike rider. At least not in the last year. Who's to say somewhere in there he didn't get rid of it and just never said anything about it. Or loaned it out. How often did she frequent the garage? This missing bike doesn't fit into the equation. The car was too small, it doesn't fit the timeline of events and it wouldn't make sense for him to take the bike in the car to the train that he didn't have a pass for. Just some thoughts.
 
I'm unsure about the bike thing and if it truly is relevant at all. IIRC, he wasn't an avid bike rider. At least not in the last year. Who's to say somewhere in there he didn't get rid of it and just never said anything about it. Or loaned it out. How often did she frequent the garage? This missing bike doesn't fit into the equation. The car was too small, it doesn't fit the timeline of events and it wouldn't make sense for him to take the bike in the car to the train that he didn't have a pass for. Just some thoughts.

I mostly agree with what you are stating, except for the fact that if he loaned it out, his friend/relative, or whomever he gave it to would have come forward and said something by now.

But I do agree that the bike is a non factor. To go biking at 3pm on a friday of Father's Day weekend makes zero sense to me. He never told any one he was going out biking, there are tons of cars on the road, the kids should have been coming off the bus any minute, and his wife was expecting him home, etc.... it just doesnt fit.

He could have did it Sat or Sun morning when there was much more time to go out for a relaxing ride.
 
I'm not sure why my post was deleted but I was trying to make a point that it doesn't appear that RM did anything that was his usual MO.

Peeps are saying that he never would put his bike in the back of the car. He also would never park his car at the train station. But his car was found there.

My point is that you can't base what happened that day on RM's usual actions because it doesn't appear, from the location of the car at least, that everything he did that day fit his usual behavior.
 
And further, you simply can't just rule out the bike, period.

The bike is missing.

The bike probably fit in the back of the car.

That's all we know.
 
WELCOME to WS desensitized. Good to have you posting and adding to our discussion.

You know, Curious, I read that as well and it struck me as odd also...it has always been "his" car, and now "my" car...just the change in pronoun stood out...:twocents: MOO and all that...

The thing that bugs me about RM's red car is that IM is sharing that LE is "still processing" and have not provided list of items found in car. It has been over a month! Seems to me a month is much longer than would be needed to process.Does LE still (emphasis on still) have RM's red car or has it been returned to family? Maybe someone in LE can clarify if this time frame is "normal" in a case like this.

Agree - I'm with you. Leaving on his own, he'd be smart enough to have been stashing things away and leaving no tracks.
As for a reason, we don't really know much/anything about him...
To prove, LE has to really search.... maybe used a computer someplace where he wasn't known, had a fake account... Tricky since he appears to always have come home directly after work...

I agree OldSteve, if he left on his own... it seems to have been well planned. I even wondered if the thing he sold at Arrow was a hard or Zip drive; or possibly a tablet or laptop. I hope the family and those helping will delve into his business accounts, computer, phone records, etc. at least 6 months before June 14th. :fence:
 
I mostly agree with what you are stating, except for the fact that if he loaned it out, his friend/relative, or whomever he gave it to would have come forward and said something by now.

But I do agree that the bike is a non factor. To go biking at 3pm on a friday of Father's Day weekend makes zero sense to me. He never told any one he was going out biking, there are tons of cars on the road, the kids should have been coming off the bus any minute, and his wife was expecting him home, etc.... it just doesnt fit.

He could have did it Sat or Sun morning when there was much more time to go out for a relaxing ride.

Maybe it wasn't meant to be a relaxing ride. Maybe he needed to get somewhere but didn't want his car to be seen there.
 
The thing that bugs me about RM's red car is that IM is sharing that LE is "still processing" and have not provided list of items found in car. It has been over a month! Seems to me a month is much longer than would be needed to process.Does LE still (emphasis on still) have RM's red car or has it been returned to family? Maybe someone in LE can clarify if this time frame is "normal" in a case like this.

Maybe they never will.

Unfortunately we don't have Florida Sunshine Laws in NY so we won't get any info from LE.

I even wondered if the thing he sold at Arrow was a hard or Zip drive; or possibly a tablet or laptop.

I'm wondering why you would think he sold a technical piece of equipment? IM has not said that their computer is missing. In fact she has stated that the computer was checked and that he was not techie at all.

It's way more likely that he sold copper. In fact I would bet real money that he sold copper.
 
I wonder if LE even started processing his car yet. Doesn't sound like this case is a priority.
 
I'm not sure why my post was deleted but I was trying to make a point that it doesn't appear that RM did anything that was his usual MO.

Peeps are saying that he never would put his bike in the back of the car. He also would never park his car at the train station. But his car was found there.

My point is that you can't base what happened that day on RM's usual actions because it doesn't appear, from the location of the car at least, that everything he did that day fit his usual behavior.

I guess you can figure a 50/50 split on the day. He went to work at his usual time (although MAY have been running late), forgot wallet (not unusual according to IM), got to work everything seemed fine, spoke with IM at 9am and seemed totally normal, went about his work day and co-workers said that he wasnt acting odd. Left work a bit early (it's Friday, I imagine people do this often if they can get away with it), went to scrap yard (again not unusual for him).

THEN things go awry! So, one argument is it was just another day-in-the-life of RM until somewhere around 2pm.

On the flipside, you can name an equal amount of things that were NOT routine that day. So its a big mystery! :twocents:

For the record, I am not sure where exactly I stand anymore :banghead:
 
I wonder if LE even started processing his car yet. Doesn't sound like this case is a priority.

It must be very frustating for her. If I was IM I would be talking to the Detective"s Commanding Officer and demand answers.
 
I mostly agree with what you are stating, except for the fact that if he loaned it out, his friend/relative, or whomever he gave it to would have come forward and said something by now.

But I do agree that the bike is a non factor. To go biking at 3pm on a friday of Father's Day weekend makes zero sense to me. He never told any one he was going out biking, there are tons of cars on the road, the kids should have been coming off the bus any minute, and his wife was expecting him home, etc.... it just doesnt fit.

He could have did it Sat or Sun morning when there was much more time to go out for a relaxing ride.

BBM. I considered that. It could possibly be as well the friend may know he's missing but not know about the bike or may not know he's missing at all. People lose touch. People don't follow local news. I don't. Just musing.
 
I'm not sure why my post was deleted but I was trying to make a point that it doesn't appear that RM did anything that was his usual MO.

Peeps are saying that he never would put his bike in the back of the car. He also would never park his car at the train station. But his car was found there.

My point is that you can't base what happened that day on RM's usual actions because it doesn't appear, from the location of the car at least, that everything he did that day fit his usual behavior.

Yes, as the saying goes, never say never. How many times have we heard in various stories whether how a person reportedly would never murder, steal, runaway from their lives, put their children in danger, etc. yet later come to find that's exactly what they did. I think about the woman recently found in Florida after many years missing. Everyone said she would never leave her children. People will do things completely out of character when stressed or pressured. But for me.....everything was normal leading up to the scrap yard exchange. Then it went off the rails completely.
 
Hi all!
I have been following this forum closely and finally...was able to register (slight computer issue).
I, like most of you, jump from one scenario to another.
At this point, IMO...there is much more to this case than what we know. Hence, the zero info from LE and family since day one.
This is ...very clean.
By the way...you are all awesome and i really enjoy reading your posts.
 
Welcome, Momoffourboys! And bless your heart! I raised 2 boys and wasn't sure what the next minute held!!

I agree...it's all very clean. So clean as far as WE know that I worry for his safety. I think there's a lot we don't know...as seen in other cases, people try to protect their loved ones expecting a quick return, and not necessarily sharing all that could be helpful in solving the puzzle. I feel for IM and wouldn't want to be in her shoes!
 
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